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[Kyle Polulak]

Greetings MechWarriors,

As you may be aware, a bug affecting missiles was discovered after yesterday's patch. We have tracked down the issue, which had been affecting LRMs, SRMs and Streaks. A fix has been made and is currently undegoing an internal test before we release it in a hot fix.

Please note that this particular hot fix will require a game restart and patch from the players. Those in a match during the hot fix may lose connection.

The hot fix is scheduled for 6:30PM PDT / 9:30 PM EDT / 12:30 AM UTC

[Rasc4l]

Thank you for reacting fast.

So what's the deal with the remaining SRM fixes? Any ETA?

[Cest7]

What Broke? More details plz.

[Mcgral18]

I don't suppose SRMs will be better than pre patch?

Or just reverted to their not quite useless state?

[Homeless Bill]

I'm thinking you guys should bump SRM damage to 2.5 to make it up to us. Please? Just one glimmer of the brawling we had a year ago? What's the worst that could happen - no poptarts for two weeks?

[Mcgral18]

Homeless Bill, on 21 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

I'm thinking you guys should bump SRM damage to 2.5 to make it up to us. Please? Just one glimmer of the brawling we had a year ago? What's the worst that could happen - no poptarts for two weeks?

But the SRMageddon! Think of the SRMageddon!

[Prawfutt]

Thanks for finding and fixing the problem.... and believing us when we said there was a problem rather than saying "THERE IS NOTHING WRONG" *cough*paul*caugh*

[Sky Hawk]

Good! For my daily DXP, I changed my LRM's into ERPPC's to end the Master at last... I'm sure with LRM's I don't hit so many friendly Mechs... soooo.. I hope they fix it fast.

Edited by Sky Hawk, 21 May 2014 - 03:08 PM.

[Harathan]

Homeless Bill, on 21 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

I'm thinking you guys should bump SRM damage to 2.5 to make it up to us. Please? Just one glimmer of the brawling we had a year ago? What's the worst that could happen - no poptarts for two weeks?

But then what would the HoL vs HoL final look like if they couldnt field poptarts?

Edited by Harathan, 21 May 2014 - 01:58 PM.

[Roughneck45]

Harathan, on 21 May 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

But then what would the HoL vs HoL final look like if they couldnt field poptarts?

The brawling decks we used to take and love over a year ago... ah the good old days...

Great players are still great without jumpsniping.

Edited by Roughneck45, 21 May 2014 - 02:02 PM.

[xCico]

You guys are too much worried cause of hit detection... Look on a bright side, we got new cockpit items!!

[Homeless Bill]

Harathan, on 21 May 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

But then what would the HoL vs HoL final look like if they couldnt field poptarts?

Interesting.

[Deathlike]

Homeless Bill, on 21 May 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

Interesting.

At this rate, I don't think Paul would want to reneg on his "promise" to nerf the SRMs back to 1.5.

[Threat Doc]

I wonder if whatever affected missiles during yesterday's patch, and what's being fixed, now, was the cause of so many SRM problems for a while, and might fix the whole kit and kaboodle once and for all. I would love to see my hit percentage with LRMs go up from 20% to 35 or 40%.

[Harathan]

Kay Wolf, on 21 May 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

I wonder if whatever affected missiles during yesterday's patch, and what's being fixed, now, was the cause of so many SRM problems for a while, and might fix the whole kit and kaboodle once and for all. I would love to see my hit percentage with LRMs go up from 20% to 35 or 40%.

Unlikely. The b0rk yesterday seems to be related to Clan LRM code getting mixed in, which was only done yesterday.

[Englebert]

looks like things to come. yay for improvements.

[Threat Doc]

Harathan, on 21 May 2014 - 02:12 PM, said:

Unlikely. The b0rk yesterday seems to be related to Clan LRM code getting mixed in, which was only done yesterday.

And... you know this precisely how? I didn't read anywhere that was said anything was getting mixed in, anywhere, and I have a tendency to read a lot, though not all.

[Dakkath]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 21 May 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Greetings MechWarriors,

As you may be aware, a bug affecting missiles was discovered after yesterday's patch. We have tracked down the issue, which had been affecting LRMs, SRMs and Streaks. A fix has been made and is currently undegoing an internal test before we release it in a hot fix.

Please note that this particular hot fix will require a game restart and patch from the players. Those in a match during the hot fix may lose connection.

Specifics on the time of the hot-fix to be released upon completion of testing.

This is interesting to me. Surveying the bug fixes from last patch shows

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Bug Fixes



- Resolved a glitch where the yellow selection highlight in the Mechlab remained stuck to previously selected objects.
- Fixed a glitch in the Mechlab where NaN is displayed on info bars when no Engine is equipped.
- Removed a corruption glitch in the Pilot lab on horizontal scroll bars for chassis/variant selection.
- Resolved presentation glitch in MC owned changes briefly while switching between Owned and Purchaseable Mechs
- Corrected the displayed range of AMS as the optimal range rather than maximum.
- Corrected rules to Liquid Metal achievement to remove instances of unlock despite being destroyed in match.
- Resolved a series of back-end algorithm issues which were blocking further matchmaking implementations.
- Resolved several issues relating to 3/3/3/3 and one group per team matchmaking algorithm.
- Fixed issue in matchmaking that could result in imbalances between number of groups when one group per team is disabled

So my question is this: How did missiles get mucked with and then go undetected through testing? Was there more things adjusted then what was on the patch notes? A little scary IMO and does this signal any need for better oversight on changes, because things like this seem to happen often.

Edit:
Ahh appears as there was 'behind the scenes' work being done but not noted in the patch notes..

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Russ B
Even at this time we are not 100% certain what is causing the bug however there was some work implemented to support the upcoming Clan LRM's. It was expected these changes would not have any impact on the game after patch, obviously this seems to be our culprit.

Edited by Dakkath, 21 May 2014 - 02:40 PM.
found info I was asking about.

[Deathlike]

Kay Wolf, on 21 May 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

And... you know this precisely how? I didn't read anywhere that was said anything was getting mixed in, anywhere, and I have a tendency to read a lot, though not all.

Without writing an entire thesis, let's just sum up the points.

1) Clan LRMs will have an exponential curve for damage @ some range under 200 or so. Read the Clan Weapon discussion Paul wrote a while back.

2) Damage seems to be different depending on range - this is through empirical testing found on reddit threads or existing threads on the board. In essence, that is partly the description found about Clan LRM damage.

3) Lots of things are "linked" in the missile code, like the Artemis speeding up Streak locks (which is a known bug/behavior)... since they share the same locking code. Since the change AFFECTED ALL MISSILE TYPES, therefore it is reasonable to assume that whatever they did to add for clan LRMs was not sectioned off the main code path for missiles, thus affecting them globally as they did.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Edited by Deathlike, 21 May 2014 - 02:40 PM.

[Harathan]

Kay Wolf, on 21 May 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

And... you know this precisely how? I didn't read anywhere that was said anything was getting mixed in, anywhere, and I have a tendency to read a lot, though not all.

http://mwomercs.com/...e-bug-may-20th/

Need to read more, apparently.