316 replies to this topic

[VileKnight]

CoffiNail, on 03 June 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

No, not horrible. But it does seem like the artist has no interest or knowledge of the Clans, or their totem. Do some research first or something at least.

Well said Coffi. Agree 100%

While I personally am happy with the fact we now have factions icons we can use... I have to say that I am disappointed with the CGB logo. I think it needs work, and I am going to hope that PGI takes the criticism (constructive) to heart so they can improve on what they have released today. I like the attempt to make them flag banners, and I actually really like the Clan Wolf logo.

As Oathmaster Coffi has said... Keep calm and Mech on!

Edited by VileKnight, 03 June 2014 - 03:25 PM.

[Sir Ludwig]

Took me awhile to get use to the Davion, but I have to agree it isn't as bad as GB's. NC and JF's look okay to me. At least you Clan'er have banners

SirLudwig

[Icy Wind]

I understand they wanted to "freshen" the look of the symbols. But the creative liberties taken here are little too much. If I had the artistic talent as others... I'd say this if they wanted to update the old logos a little:

Flesh out the CFJ and SJ animal a little more, give them shape, a more than a solid image and brighten colors a little. Wolf just needs a little bit of a color tweaking. CGB pull it back more into the orignal blue, rather than purple.

Mostly just sharpen the images and don't re-create the wheel.

Edited by Icy Wind, 03 June 2014 - 03:34 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Sir Ludwig, on 03 June 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

Took me awhile to get use to the Davion, but I have to agree it isn't as bad as GB's. NC and JF's look okay to me. At least you Clan'er have banners

SirLudwig

The fact that you mixed us honorable Nova Cats with them... Proof enough something went horribly wrong in the design department. Russ did say that the guy who does the art was out of town, though. Hopefully when he gets back he smacks the intern across the back of the head so hard he sees Cameron Stars.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 03 June 2014 - 03:35 PM.

[Kell Commander]

Not a fan. Especially the Smoke Jaguar logo. Looks way too cartoony.

[BLOOD WOLF]

CoffiNail, on 03 June 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

I say keep the style, but bring them a little closer to what we are use to.

Same time, like a lot of other aspects of MWO we just adapt and move on.

Keep
Calm
&
Mech
On

AFF. Best option to take.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Trothkin, Do not quiet down about this. We are not the many who say, let the look be. We have been waiting patiently for the Clans to come in this game so we could Reconnect with something known to us. There is no excuse and no reason we need to stand for this. Maybe not now, But we need a Redesign. Russ said it was a simple matter, If that is so then i say; For them to remake these into a more fitting image unto the Clan which it Honers and Represents, let them be redone.

[CoffiNail]

Why did they let Alex out of his closet. They are really slacking on security at pgi. Get Alex back to the work closet and redesigning the redesign, so we can have a design that was redesigned, while we get rid of this redesign.

[CeeKay Boques]

Technoviking, on 03 June 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

I'm going to take this before my kids as judges, with no qualifiers, because I can't tell if I hate them because they are terrible or if I hate them because they are on my lawn.

Blind test, jpgs in word, side by side, each asked individual.

9 year old : Classic: 0 New Coke: 4
11 Year Old: Classic: 0 New Coke 4
Non BT obsessed wife: Wolf, SJR Classic. Jade Falcon, New. Ghost Bear: Draw, both look good


Oh well. Good job, my genetic legacy is the target demographic, not the Solhama warrior.

[Daneiel]

Pariah Devalis, on 03 June 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

The fact that you mixed us honorable Nova Cats with them... Proof enough something went horribly wrong in the design department. Russ did say that the guy who does the art was out of town, though. Hopefully when he gets back he smacks the intern across the back of the head so hard he sees Cameron Stars.

Pariah do you really believe in that ? Are you , be honest , you are not so naive i think . These logos are prepared at least a month ago , other way that is joke .

P.S. Don't laugh in the shadows - the Nova Cats are the next in line on the chopping block .

Edited by Daneiel, 03 June 2014 - 03:53 PM.

[CoffiNail]

Well considering it took the new artist a afternoon to do these, what is another afternoon. Hell get him on here and let him ask questions... I have redesign of the logos. Feel free to use them. Free of charge...

[FearNotDeath]

I posted these quick fixes I did in the wolf boards, don't make fun of me for I have low self esteem.




For the people who didn't like the stars or eyeballs.

The Jade Falcon does look more like a bird of paradise than an imposing military emblem.

Edited by FearNotDeath, 03 June 2014 - 03:58 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Daneiel, on 03 June 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Pariah do you really believe in that ? Are you , be honest , you are not so naive i think . These logos are prepared at least a month ago , other way that is joke .

P.S. Don't laugh in the shadows - the Nova Cats are the next in line on the chopping block .

I think the art direction the Clan art redesign suffered from is totally and absolutely unlike the art direction that was done before. Totally breaks the continuity of the art style. I would find it incredibly difficult that the same artist did the IS logos and the Clan logos. Just too far apart, stylistically. The quality of the new Clan ones are also horrible. To be frank, I barely know how to use photoshop and I CAN, AND HAVE, produced higher quality logowork.

So, no. I actually do buy into it that someone other than the normal art guy did it because either the dude decided to shoot some potent drugs into his system before attempting the Clan redesign, or else it was someone else entirely who is unfamiliar with how to match the style. Especially if they were not planning on doing our logos until the last possible second.

Clan Nova Cat might be the next on the chopping block for logo work, but at least we get to get ours done after they (hopefully) learn from this debacle.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 03 June 2014 - 03:58 PM.

[BigTaeng]

Technoviking, on 03 June 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

JF... yer swords bent.

Because the forum icon is a flag, not a static logo. I guess they were going for a more 3D look.

The distortion is inconsistent though. The shield in the background should be slightly bent, and there should be some shading from the flag on the Falcon's wings too.

Edited by BigTaeng, 03 June 2014 - 04:03 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Reshape the Head, Fill the stars. Then we are good.

[BLOOD WOLF]

BigTaeng, on 03 June 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

Because the forum icon is a flag, not a static logo. I guess they were going for a more 3D look.

The distortion is inconsistent though. The shield in the background should be slightly bent, and there should be some shading from the flag on the Falcon's wings too.

they could have made a 3D look and still made it look like something to be proud of showing.

[Daneiel]

Pariah Devalis, on 03 June 2014 - 03:56 PM, said:

I think the art direction the Clan art redesign suffered from is totally and absolutely unlike the art direction that was done before. Totally breaks the continuity of the art style. I would find it incredibly difficult that the same artist did the IS logos and the Clan logos. Just too far apart, stylistically. The quality of the new Clan ones are also horrible. To be frank, I barely know how to use photoshop and I CAN, AND HAVE, produced higher quality logowork.

So, no. I actually do buy into it that someone other than the normal art guy did it because either the dude decided to shoot some potent drugs into his system before attempting the Clan redesign, or else it was someone else entirely who is unfamiliar with how to match the style. Especially if they were not planning on doing our logos until the last possible second.

Clan Nova Cat might be the next on the chopping block for logo work, but at least we get to get ours done after they (hopefully) learn from this debacle.

At least we are secured from abuse at that point , i will be really scary if they decide to do that to the home clans . I will knock on my desk and will have a prayer -> PGI never touch Clan Star Adder.

[CoffiNail]

This is a not professional quality but maybe your art guy can take some notes. This is closer to what we are looking for.

CoffiNail, on 08 March 2014 - 07:19 AM, said:

It has taken me a few months to get all this done, and it has taught me a few things about photoshop I had not known before.

I had wanted higher quality images of most of the Clan ranks and such that you see on sarna and from the old 2nd ed MW RPG book.

I hope you all enjoy.

Clan Ghost Bear

Ranks

---------Khan------------------Galaxy Commander----------Star Colonel-------

-------Star Captian------------Star Commander--------Point Commander----

Clan Wolf

Ranks

---------Khan------------------Galaxy Commander----------Star Colonel-------

-------Star Captian------------Star Commander--------Point Commander----

Clan Jade Falcon

Ranks

---------Khan------------------Galaxy Commander----------Star Colonel-------

-------Star Captian------------Star Commander--------Point Commander----

Freeborn

-------Star Captian------------Star Commander--------Point Commander----

Clan Smoke Jaguar

Ranks

---------Khan------------------Galaxy Commander----------Star Colonel-------

-------Star Captian------------Star Commander--------Point Commander----

Rank of MechWarrior among the Clans

[BigTaeng]

BLOOD WOLF, on 03 June 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

they could have made a 3D look and still made it look like something to be proud of showing.

Agreed. I did not say the sword looked good, I was merely pointing out why it looked bent.

[Jaroth Corbett]

BLOOD WOLF, on 03 June 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

Trothkin, Do not quiet down about this. We are not the many who say, let the look be. We have been waiting patiently for the Clans to come in this game so we could Reconnect with something known to us. There is no excuse and no reason we need to stand for this. Maybe not now, But we need a Redesign. Russ said it was a simple matter, If that is so then i say; For them to remake these into a more fitting image unto the Clan which it Honers and Represents, let them be redone.

Most definitely. If they were happy to take my US $240 for the Masakari mech collection they will damn well be happy to take my criticism. I DO NOT LIKE IT! YOU ****** IT UP! YOU ARE A JOKE! GIVE US BACK THE ORIGINALS OR AT THE VERY LEAST GIVE US THE OPTION TO USE THE CLASSIC ONES! I AM IN CLAN GHOST BEAR NOT CLAN FAT DOG!

You people have disappointed me from the get go. AT LEAST get this right. Give me this small measure of comfort. You have the old ones all over the place to use or you can use the touched up ones I posted earlier here:

http://mwomercs.com/...96#entry3429196

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 03 June 2014 - 04:53 PM.