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[Artillery Witch Viridia]

I just find it offensive that we are this close to clan pack launch and have very little hard data on what everything still is. And they want everyone to preorder... It's kind of upsetting that it feels like the communication is so lacking. What are all the weapons being rolled out, what are the tonnage and stats since they were making a few adjustments I can't just go by sarna. Is anything being added to the inner sphere weapons/tech stockpile to compensate a little bit or is it only going to be the full clan repertoire making it's debut. What does command console and targeting computer do specifically. Clan I visually see clan hardpoints and space allocations smurphy style before I make a purchase. What about reducing inner sphere heatsinks to true double slots? Clans will have 7 crit slot ferro/endo will there be anything at all allowed to pass on to inner sphere. Maybe that's the gimmick to sell clans... make them stupidly imba. Yet this kind of information should have been all made known before any of these tiered prepurchase rewards are implemented. Unique modules, warhorns, the info was all so slow. Asking people to drop over 200$ on something with just the info that you are getting X Mechs + ? Variants which were not said at the beginning is very unprofessional.

[Deux]

But honestly do you think they care what any of us say regardless of how much money we have invested? They just care about the bottom line as long as ppl are buying now, what do they care about those of us who bought yesterday.

[spectralthundr]

ShadowWolf Kell, on 06 June 2014 - 03:56 PM, said:

Community Warfare is likely just going to be the same game it is now with a more stringent matchmaker. Win/Losses will alter the stats on a flashy map and you'll get to grind out a faction in addition to grinding out mechs.

A lot more people are going to be disappointed with CW than they will with Clan packs.

So just like MPBT:3025 and how it should have been from the get go? Why would people be disappointed by that? It's HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO BEGIN WITH.

[Cavendish]

Deux, on 06 June 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

But honestly do you think they care what any of us say regardless of how much money we have invested? They just care about the bottom line as long as ppl are buying now, what do they care about those of us who bought yesterday.

Well for one, we have not "invested" anything, we have purchased digital toys. So yes, the money we spent on goods are used up and gone, and so they need to sell more toys to continue their buisness. This does not, of course, mean that they "dont care" about previous customers. In fact, one could argue that a good way to secure future income is to manage customer relations with both previous and potential customers.

I do not think that they ignore you as soon as you have bought something from them, quite the opposit, but I do think they are looking more at metrics then reading though the forums day and night to try to divine what the current players want (NERF POPTARTS! POPTARTING TAKES SKILL! POPTARTING IS FOR LOSERS! DIE META! LOVE META! NERF ACs! BOOST ACs! and so on) since the players want widely diffrent things.

[anonymous161]

SpiralFace, on 06 June 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

I noticed the Timber wolfs are back up to under 5. Did someone refund out of it or something?

I refunded the clan collection but I might buy it back. The so called rewards are stupid as hell, coffee cup, and digital art....whooptyfukindoo. No real value in any of that.

Still I plan on continuing to play the game and will never be able to grind enough to get teh clans so I either have to give up on the clans in which case I mine as well uninstall the game since I got into this for clans to begin with at all.

[Dymlos2003]

Darth Bane001, on 06 June 2014 - 11:46 PM, said:

I refunded the clan collection but I might buy it back. The so called rewards are stupid as hell, coffee cup, and digital art....whooptyfukindoo. No real value in any of that.

Still I plan on continuing to play the game and will never be able to grind enough to get teh clans so I either have to give up on the clans in which case I mine as well uninstall the game since I got into this for clans to begin with at all.

Entitled much? The value are the mechs and premium time. Everything else is extra. If you do uninstall, that would have been your 6th time or so.

[anonymous161]

luigi256, on 06 June 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

Oh good that they will still be available after the 17th. Means I can make my choice based on how the community reacts to the Clans.

THis is why I requested a refund, if the clans suck I'm done with this game, the clans is the only reason I really installed the game and if the clans suck and I spent 240 bucks for them I'll be pissed off, I refunded my money which will take a while to get back which is bs but thats just how things work in a business, I went out and bought some awesome lego star wars that are worth some serious money if you keep it in good condition. For me thats true value this age of digital content for full price is utter nonsense and hope people wake up and demand physical value in gaming again. Digital only like this game only means that once they have your money they can take away your ability to play it for good. There is no single player only their word that the game is in good enough state to keep it going till end of the year.

[Desintegrator]

Great announcement !

So everybody grab your bucks and buy the Clan packs, if you havent already bought them last chrismas.

For me, I wont buy them until I know what I get !

So if I had some information about all clan weapons (weight, slots, damage, range, heat and so on) I would probably bought a package - but if I have no info, i wont...

And if all the clan weapons get a dramatic nerf, i will for sure play my IS mechs - and nothing else.
Therefore wait and see - and if the weapons balancing is finished by the end of 2014, i will buy some or not...

[anonymous161]

Dymlos2003, on 06 June 2014 - 11:50 PM, said:

Entitled much? The value are the mechs and premium time. Everything else is extra. If you do uninstall, that would have been your 6th time or so.

Um yes I am entitled to my hard earned money and whether I feel this content is worth spending it on. I asked for a refund after them failing to make 3x4 work, and well when was the last time they released a patch that wasn't broken? So yeah my faith in them is low at this point but still holding on somewhat. I find it sad that you actually follow me to the point of making a point to quote me on something. If I choose to uninstall the game to make a statement and come back when I feel they done something right to make it worth my time to play then thats my right. You cant decide that for me.

[Domoneky]

[Dymlos2003]

Desintegrator, on 06 June 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Great announcement !

So everybody grab your bucks and buy the Clan packs, if you havent already bought them last chrismas.

For me, I wont buy them until I know what I get !

So if I had some information about all clan weapons (weight, slots, damage, range, heat and so on) I would probably bought a package - but if I have no info, i wont...

And if all the clan weapons get a dramatic nerf, i will for sure play my IS mechs - and nothing else.
Therefore wait and see - and if the weapons balancing is finished by the end of 2014, i will buy some or not...

We have that already. Just go to sarna.net and there are your stats(Or close to them)

[anonymous161]

Desintegrator, on 06 June 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Great announcement !

So everybody grab your bucks and buy the Clan packs, if you havent already bought them last chrismas.

For me, I wont buy them until I know what I get !

So if I had some information about all clan weapons (weight, slots, damage, range, heat and so on) I would probably bought a package - but if I have no info, i wont...

And if all the clan weapons get a dramatic nerf, i will for sure play my IS mechs - and nothing else.
Therefore wait and see - and if the weapons balancing is finished by the end of 2014, i will buy some or not...

Good call I dont reccomend anyone to pay a cent for the clan mechs until they release everything on them. Why would they withold information at all anyways unless they know some of the news will upset people and cause them to not spend money on it? Yup gonna hold on to my money very glad I got a refund just wish it didn't take so long to get the physical money back takes like 10 damn days.

[Dymlos2003]

Darth Bane001, on 06 June 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Um yes I am entitled to my hard earned money and whether I feel this content is worth spending it on. I asked for a refund after them failing to make 3x4 work, and well when was the last time they released a patch that wasn't broken? So yeah my faith in them is low at this point but still holding on somewhat. I find it sad that you actually follow me to the point of making a point to quote me on something. If I choose to uninstall the game to make a statement and come back when I feel they done something right to make it worth my time to play then thats my right. You cant decide that for me.

Haha, it's just too funny.

Edited by Dymlos2003, 06 June 2014 - 11:58 PM.

[anonymous161]

To troll me? Nah I dont see the humor.

I am not taking sarna as the legit source for what they are gonna set the clan mechs for. It's all just speculation based on what a manual says the mech can field and what it can do but this is pgi who have different take on the franchise which a lot of people tend to disagree with to a point anways.

[Dymlos2003]

Darth Bane001, on 07 June 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

To troll me? Nah I dont see the humor.

I am not taking sarna as the legit source for what they are gonna set the clan mechs for. It's all just speculation based on what a manual says the mech can field and what it can do but this is pgi who have different take on the franchise which a lot of people tend to disagree with to a point anways.

Pretty much tonnage, criticals, range, damage and heat are gonna be the same. The only one that could be different are damage and heat and that's by a little bit. You want your info you have 30 years of it all around you on the internet. Use it.

Edited by Dymlos2003, 07 June 2014 - 12:09 AM.

[Koniving]

Butane9000, on 06 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Really? Because I still haven't seen an update and they've got 35 minutes.

There was a post pinned in General Discussion saying Monday for that.

[anonymous161]

Dymlos2003, on 07 June 2014 - 12:07 AM, said:

Pretty much tonnage, criticals, range, damage and heat are gonna be the same. The only one that could be different are damage and heat and that's by a little bit. You want your info you have 30 years of it all around you on the internet. Use it.

I understand what you are saying but pgi isn't sticking with the lore in this game, no one has any concrete proof of just how these mechs are gonna play or if they are gonna be released broken or unfinished.

If they work great and actually improve the game then I'll rebuy it, but gonna wait until reviews come out.

[Zerberus]

Darth Bane001, on 06 June 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

... If I choose to uninstall the game to make a statement and come back when I feel they done something right to make it worth my time to play then thats my right. You cant decide that for me.

While this is both entirely true and within your rights, your "statement" is a complete and utter waste of your time.

WHY?

Because PGI is not monitoring your machine to see which programs are installed (at least I hope so, because that woiuld be highly illegal in most countries). Therefore uninstalling does nothing more than to free up space on your hard drive.

And while they probably monitor downloads of the installer, one person more updating his game to current status is not something any company with more than 50 customers would realistically take notice of.

So you may be making a statement, but the only one the message is getting delivered to is you

That`s a large part of why many of us laugh every time you uninstall and reinstall, as you`re consistently only "damaging" /inconveniencing yourself, yet stating that it is somehow a message to PGI.

Yor supposed refund of hte clan pack is a much more clear statement..... But with the exception of EXACT weapon values and what the TC will do, we do actually know almost everything that`s actually important about the clan: variants, projected HPs, when and how we can use them, modules, warhorns, most of how the omni system will work...

What we DON`T know is really just: TC details, exact weapon stats, whether we can raise /lower total armor or just redistribute, and whether JJS will be locked to a pod or a CT.

So, if you wish to once again inconvenience yourself by waiting for the 17th, feel free to do so...

[MountainCopper]

Zerberus, on 07 June 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

...we do actually know almost everything that`s actually important about the clan: variants, projected HPs, when and how we can use them, modules, warhorns, most of how the omni system will work...

Psst, where is the information on the variants? Thx.

[Theycallmetheworkingman]

Zerberus, on 07 June 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

So, if you wish to once again inconvenience yourself by waiting for the 17th, feel free to do so...

Missing out on paint that no one cares about and superficial items (two of which will be leaked immediately) dude....so inconvenienced.

What a joke.