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[Creovex]

Mawai, on 09 June 2014 - 05:25 AM, said:

"I have been helping to push, shape, and drive MechWarrior Online's tactics and builds for well over a year now"

Does this mean we can blame you instead of PGI for the current FLD pinpoint damage meta?

He's a witch! Burn him!

[poopenshire]

Now that the flaming has stopped, why not get serious here and talk about FLD.

Is it a better method?

Personally I think not. But I want to hear your opinion.

When I play with my team I run anti ECM and anti-pop tart. I have been getting more successful but tend to think a good sharing of other tactics might be worth it.

Care to share?

[Itsalrightwithme]

What do you think of the coming Fall Damage and JJ Heat systems, assuming no changes to the current terrain / slope / invisible pebbles system?

[Kmieciu]

JagerXII, on 09 June 2014 - 01:43 AM, said:

Spoiler

Hello! I am JagerXII, member of <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.sjrgaming.com/?page_id=38" href="http://www.sjrgaming.com/?page_id=38" class="bbc_url" title="External link" rel="nofollow external">Steel Jaguar Gaming</a>, Captain of Team Tiger, winners of the MechWarrior Online Launch Tournament in San Fransisco, winner of the Ace of Assassins Tournament (1v1), NGNG Podcast co-host, and aspiring <a data-cke-saved-href="http://twitch.tv/jagerxii" href="http://twitch.tv/jagerxii" class="bbc_url" title="External link" rel="nofollow external">twitch streamer</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>I have been helping to push, shape, and drive MechWarrior Online's tactics and builds for well over a year now and would like to share my experience with everyone here. There is a tremendous amount of misinformation and bad/incorrect opinions on these forums and I am here to try to put a dent in that problem. I will therefore be holding a prepared answer and live Q&amp;A session on my stream on <a data-cke-saved-href="http://twitch.tv/jagerxii" href="http://twitch.tv/jagerxii" class="bbc_url" title="External link" rel="nofollow external">twitch.tv/jagerxii</a> at my normal times (11:00PM Eastern/ 8:00PM Pacific) on Wednesday the 11th. Twitch and YouTube recordings will be made and presented here for people that can not make the live stream times.</p><p><br></p><p>In a similar structure to the old Ask The Devs posts, I will take questions asked here and prepare answers for the live stream. In addition I will take questions live from the audience for an extended period after finishing the prepared answers.</p><p><br></p><p>Question topics may include:</p><ul class="bbc"><li>MWO experiences</li><li>Tactics</li><li>Mechs</li><li>Mech builds</li><li>Weapons</li><li>MWO Metagame</li><li>Personal/Pilot maneuvers</li><li>Personal/Pilot skills</li><li>Competitive gameplay</li><li>Competitive drop decks</li><li>MWO game mechanics</li><li>Clan predictions</li></ul>Feel free to post your questions here in this thread and I hope to see you all on Wednesday!<p>

If you could go back in time, what would you change in order to win the last tournament against HoL?

Edited by Kmieciu, 09 June 2014 - 05:46 AM.

[FatYak]

Apologies from the rest of us for the way this thread has been percieved.

[Gyrok]

What can be done to get back to brawling?

Also, in your competitive drops, what is your positioning goal against the other team? Do you prefer to act first or setup defensively and react?

[Zerberus]

I too apologize for allowing myself to be dragged into the trollfest, it was not my intent.
But:

Mawai, on 09 June 2014 - 05:25 AM, said:

"I have been helping to push, shape, and drive MechWarrior Online's tactics and builds for well over a year now"

Does this mean we can blame you instead of PGI for the current FLD pinpoint damage meta?

BA-ZING!!!

Edited by Zerberus, 09 June 2014 - 06:12 AM.

[Solahma]

1. Is it all about dat skill shot?

[Sougard]

Alright, I have a few questions:

How many points of rear armor should a mech have depending on its class/speed?
How much, in your experience, does AMS help against streaks?
Do you think LBX is a good brawling weapon?
What is the easiest way to destroy a Dragonslayer?
Do you think Firestarter needs a hitbox rework/increase?

[Felbombling]

These questions may come off as a little offensive, but I don't really mean them to be. Just curious how a high calibre meta player views these topics.

1. How easy is it to successfully sync-drop?
2. With the implementation of 3/3/3/3, does the sync dropping crowd plan to circumvent it to continue the abuse? If so, how?
3. How do groups with meta builds [and inflated winning percentage] fight off boredom?
4. As a group, would you welcome a queue that had groups of any size, 2-12, even if the matchmaker created uneven teams?

Thanks in advance if you choose to answer any of the above. Again... not trying to be a jerk... just curious.

[lpmagic]

Thanks for taking time to do this, and being patient enough to get though the inevitable flames by people that truly do not get that you are trying to foment good gameplay and balance.

If all things remained status quo with game balance (we know it will not, but humor me here) what can be done by teams to beat the current "meta", without using said "meta" what are the keys to the castle? Give us the kryptonite to the "meta" I know this will not be one thing, it will be series of things. My opinion is that fast brawling is the one true bane of the "meta" if played properly, but it has to be done almost flawlessly, and brutally fast to be effective in this regard.

TL/DR
Primer for how to beat the top teams, SJR/Lords (and others) are masters of the meta, what is your secret fear someone will do to beat you? Not fear per se, but worry, or secret thought on the matter.

<S>
lpmagic

Edited by lpmagic, 09 June 2014 - 07:40 AM.

[Zoeff]

Assuming for a moment that the JJ heat + fall damage tweaks are going to make jumpsniping less favorable, will hill humping with high mounted weapon hardpoints take center stage? What are your thoughts on this?

I noticed that on a couple of occasions you voiced your ehm... 'displeasure' about the thought of stalkers hill humping for the entire game on both sides. I'm quite interested in this with me being an avid stalker pilot that likes to use the very high mounted laser hardpoints combined with the high mounted cockpit to full effect right now. Will I have to change my playstyle if I want to continue to challenge the meta with a slightly less meta build?

[Dracol]

thought of another two:

#5: Over the course of the last two years, interest in competitive play has fluctuated. With the release of private matches, interest once again started to increase. Has the increase interest continued? or was there a fall off after the newness of private matches wore off?

#6: What does SJR look at when considering a player for joining the unit?

Edited by Dracol, 09 June 2014 - 10:09 AM.

[M0rpHeu5]

What do you think about the 3 mech mastering system?
What keeps you playing MWO ? (Its fun is not a valid response)
Would you use your most hated built if it became meta?

[Eglar]

Creovex, on 09 June 2014 - 05:22 AM, said:

• Do you feel ashamed to run a Meta build all the time?

That's an obviously biased question.

You assume that he does run meta-builds all the time. (Y U DO THIS?) Obviously you've never been watching his stream. There is a misconception in between what people consider "viable" and what people consider "meta". As soon as you declare everything viable a meta-build, and you don't want to run meta-builds, you might as well just stop playing this game.

At this point, I have a question for Jager:

What's your definition of a viable build and what is your definition of a meta-build?

[Creovex]

Eglar, on 09 June 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

That's an obviously biased question.

You assume that he does run meta-builds all the time. (Y U DO THIS?) Obviously you've never been watching his stream. There is a misconception in between what people consider &quot;viable&quot; and what people consider &quot;meta&quot;. As soon as you declare everything viable a meta-build, and you don't want to run meta-builds, you might as well just stop playing this game.

At this point, I have a question for Jager:

What's your definition of a viable build and what is your definition of a meta-build?

You are correct, I don't waste my time on his twitch. Only guy worth ever watching on twitch was BuzzCutPsycho in Planetside2. Everyone else is just subpar.

Edited by Creovex, 09 June 2014 - 02:51 PM.

[Gyrok]

StaggerCheck, on 09 June 2014 - 06:52 AM, said:

These questions may come off as a little offensive, but I don't really mean them to be. Just curious how a high calibre meta player views these topics.

1. How easy is it to successfully sync-drop?
2. With the implementation of 3/3/3/3, does the sync dropping crowd plan to circumvent it to continue the abuse? If so, how?
3. How do groups with meta builds [and inflated winning percentage] fight off boredom?
4. As a group, would you welcome a queue that had groups of any size, 2-12, even if the matchmaker created uneven teams?

Thanks in advance if you choose to answer any of the above. Again... not trying to be a jerk... just curious.

I could answer these:

1. With a private lobby, incredibly easy (not against PUGs though)...without (PUG queue)...you are better off not trying and have it happen by accident.

2. Abuse? LOL...there is no sync dropping conspiracy.

3. By playing the game.

4. Yes.

Edited by Gyrok, 09 June 2014 - 01:57 PM.

[Creovex]

Gyrok, on 09 June 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

I could answer these:

1. With a private lobby, incredibly easy (not against PUGs though)...without (PUG queue)...you are better off not trying and have it happen by accident.

2. Abuse? LOL...there is no sync dropping conspiracy.

3. By playing the game.

4. Yes.

LOL does this thread say "Ask Gyrok"?

On a side note... thanks for answering questions Gyrok as the OP is AWOL...

[Atkins0n]

Creovex, on 09 June 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

LOL does this thread say "Ask Gyrok"?

On a side note... thanks for answering questions Gyrok as the OP is AWOL...

Or hes just not a ****** and actually read what jager said, which was he would be answering questions on his stream, because he knows you turds are just going ask dumb questions on here about meta.

Edited by Tricepticon, 09 June 2014 - 03:08 PM.

[Targetloc]

Does PGI have much interaction with the 'top tier' players? Do they take balance feedback from them?

Do you think the general forum population is on an island?