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#21 Reitrix

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:09 AM

XL400 crammed to the max with DHS. The strength of the Awesome 9M is its BARRAGE not its Alpha.

Why on earth would you want to pop a slow moving target with 3 damage, when you can slam 12 PPC rounds into him before needing to back off? If my target is in the open, the amount of damage i can do, particularly to larger Assaults like the Atlas and Bansee is borderline ********.

I hunt Assaults like Streaktaros and StreakHawks hunt Lights in my Awesome. Abuse the shield arms.

#22 Belorion

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:11 AM

obvious troll account and post is obvious.

#23 Ngamok

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:16 AM

They make Awesome LRM boats.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:17 AM

View PostBelorion, on 10 June 2014 - 10:11 AM, said:

obvious troll account and post is obvious.


No actually, met this player in a match many hours ago.

Give the guy some pointers and the benefit of the doubt.

If needed, I can post the builds of all my Awesome loadouts.
...erm, no "I'm high and mighty" wording intended.

#25 InKerenskyWeTrust

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:31 AM

Don't talk about my Awesome like that. I love my 9M was my first mech I bought after I started playing and have dropped in it way more than any other mech I own. I have only recently started running other assaults and I will admit that they are way easier to play than the Awesome, but I love my Awesome. Learned how to/how not to brawl/skirmish in it.

I've dropped in mine into 464 matches with an average W/L of 1.03 and a K/D (Like it even matters) of 1.91.

I currently run mine with 3 LPL's, and 2 ML. Not an optimal build, but it is crazy fun to drop in.


*Moves next to his 9M*
"Shhhhh....The bad man can't hurt you anymore"

Edited by Daoa Hakoke, 10 June 2014 - 10:32 AM.


#26 MechWarrior5152251

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:33 AM

I finally figure out why they named it an "Awesome". "That mech has awesome PPC boobs."

Edited by 911 Inside Job, 10 June 2014 - 10:34 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:10 AM

View PostCow And Chicken, on 10 June 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

No. It's not fine.
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So you only have the 9M and no other Awesomes? Since you already made the investment, at least keep it until you can Elite it. That can really make a difference in how it feels to play.

And see about dropping in a group, since Teamwork is OP!



So yeah, they are a big walking barn door and could use further tweaks, themselves. One thing that could be nice is to tweak the model, here's one that I like:

View PostFunky Bacon, on 08 May 2014 - 04:23 PM, said:

Had patcher issues and lots of boredom today, so I played around with some image editing software again and came up with this.

- AWS-Slim -
* Slimmed down center, moving side torso closer together.
* Slightly lowered shoulders to further reduce profile size.
* Arms remain same size to keep it protected from the sides.
* Narrower "thigh gap" to match legs with the slimmer torso.
* Still looks Awesome, and maybe even more so than before.
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v AWS-Original v
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Original Post here.


Even if it was wider from front to back as a trade-off for this slimmer shoulder to shoulder profile, I'd still like to have this redesign explored.


Another idea I'd like explored further is to setup better armor caps by chassis (even down to individual variants) so that the Awesome could be more armored than other Assaults due to it's stock Armors from TT.



But someday IS weapons should be addressed, as Clan weapons will seem to come with a few tweaks of their own compared to currently available weapons.

#28 oldradagast

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:33 AM

I wish the Awesome were Awesome... they are not terrible, but they don't really have a good home in the game. Why? A bunch of reasons:

1) Vulnerable hitboxes

2) Lack of ballistics

3) Lack of Jump jets

4) Lack of high-mounted sniping weapon ports

Together, that leaves them rather mediocre. The only thing they really do have going for them is consistently good missile mounts - great for LRM's - and good mobility for a mech of that size, arms included. But that's about it, sadly.

#29 N a p e s

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:03 PM

Funny, I just played my 9M last night after not having touched it in at least a month. Ended up with almost 900 damage, 3 kills and plenty of assists. Here's my build btw : AWS-9M

Whats great is that with all those DHS I can fire two triple PPC volleys before having to tone it down. If I opt for a steady rhythm of 2-1-2-1-2-etc. I can lay down some serious firepower before having to worry about heat.

It's definitely not much of a brawler but as a midrange fire support mech it does pretty well.

#30 Sergey Kosinskiy

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:12 PM

Hmm so if Awesome is so bad, am i just got lucky?
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This is a brawler, and no arty.
Yes AWS, isnt a greath mech, for me only problem he is too wide, so mybe some changes will help, but its not so bad, as people think.

Edited by Sergey kosinskiy, 10 June 2014 - 12:17 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:20 PM

View PostSergey kosinskiy, on 10 June 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

Hmm so if Awesome is so bad, am i just got lucky?
This is a brawler, and no arty.
Yes AWS, isnt a greath mech, for me only problem he is too wide, so mybe some changes will help, but its not so bad, as people think.


Whats your build Sergey?

#32 Sergey Kosinskiy

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:45 PM

View PostNapes339, on 10 June 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:


Whats your build Sergey?

On 8 kill its 2Lpl and 3Mpl, on other is 1lpl, 2 Med, 3 SRM4. Std 340 on both.
Just to be clear, i would love if they chage hitboxes or geometry.... it will be even more Awesome:) (pun intendent)

Edited by Sergey kosinskiy, 10 June 2014 - 12:49 PM.


#33 Cow And Chicken

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:14 PM

Not a troll account nope.

668 matches in 2 months. Even one and a half. I am new but not so much a noob, Maybe I only suck ^_^


Wins / Losses 347 / 321
Mech' Matches Played Wins Losses Ratio Kills Deaths Ratio Damage Done XP Earned Time Played HUNCHBACK HBK-4P 1 1 0 1.00 0 0 0.00 151 1,480 00:07:31 JENNER JR7-F 3 0 3 0.00 0 3 0.00 316 508 00:13:49 CATAPULT CPLT-A1 23 7 16 0.44 11 18 0.61 5,547 12,335 02:21:50 AWESOME AWS-9M 40 19 21 0.90 10 32 0.31 7,094 26,075 03:37:18 CATAPHRACT CTF-3D 1 1 0 1.00 0 0 0.00 357 1,482 00:10:15 STALKER STK-5M 60 34 25 1.36 26 44 0.59 12,777 43,757 05:20:12 STALKER STK-3F 86 47 39 1.21 54 59 0.92 23,301 73,354 08:45:34 SPIDER SDR-5K 19 9 10 0.90 10 17 0.59 2,940 13,799 01:36:04 ILYA MUROMETS 10 5 5 1.00 8 9 0.89 2,172 8,548 00:47:15 THE X-5 10 5 5 1.00 3 8 0.38 950 7,591 00:40:33 JAGERMECH JM6-DD 70 41 29 1.41 60 50 1.20 20,116 66,373 05:53:37 JAGERMECH JM6-S 69 39 30 1.30 34 50 0.68 16,605 55,270 06:03:36 MISERY 62 30 32 0.94 24 46 0.52 14,631 44,338 05:07:36 BLACKJACK BJ-1 5 1 4 0.25 2 4 0.50 465 2,530 00:21:06 FIREBRAND 155 84 71 1.18 128 118 1.08 41,314 126,836 12:48:57 VICTOR VTR-9S 7 4 3 1.33 5 6 0.83 1,465 5,282 00:33:25 ORION ON1-K 1 0 1 0.00 0 1 0.00 84 325 00:05:47 EMBER 36 18 18 1.00 22 29 0.76 6,387 31,279 03:10:34 FIRESTARTER FS9-S 2 1 1 1.00 1 2 0.50 376 1,144 00:14:18 HUGINN 9 1 8 0.13 1 9 0.11 503 3,314 00:40:51

Not a good idea to paste this here. The format is lost.

Edited by Cow And Chicken, 10 June 2014 - 01:19 PM.


#34 Nothing Whatsoever

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:25 PM

View PostCow And Chicken, on 10 June 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

Not a good idea to paste this here. The format is lost.


If you'd like to share stats, then you can 'Print Screen' (should be top right of keyboard).

Open MS Paint or similar simple image program (I use Paint).

Then paste the Screen Cap into Paint, crop tweak and adjust what you want to share and save. Then you can use something like imgur.com to host the image.

You can also use Paint to adjust in-game screen shots too, you'd just have to find the folder on your PC.

#35 Rampancy

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:47 PM

I really like the AWS-8Q and AWS-9M. Great energy boating platforms, and as others have said you can eat up assaults if they're out in the open. No ammo constraints, etc. Great torso twisting and shield arms allow the 9M to zombie pretty well, too.

Builds:
AWS-8Q

AWS-9M

Edited by RampancyTW, 10 June 2014 - 01:48 PM.


#36 MisterPlanetarian

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:56 PM

Standard engine AWS-9M

Try that one. Runs cooler than the ERPPC's which nets you more damage over time. The fact that you have a Standard engine lets you survive alot better, most of the armor is front loaded too so make sure you avoid getting shot in the back. You can also swap out the PPC's for Large Pulse Lasers. It's a pretty good close quarters alternative.

*Always chainfire your PPC's, this won't trigger additional heat generation and lets you avoid overheating accidentally once you get close to the limit.

*Use your medium lasers against light mechs and stuff that gets under your PPC minimum range.


The Awesome is a difficult mech to get the most out of, but you can have fun in it even though it's not concidered a metagame friendly mech. Get the 8R and 8V/8Q to get it mastered.

Here's a faster Pulse laser build: AWS-9M Pulse.

Edited by MisterPlanetarian, 10 June 2014 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 02:14 PM

I run my 9M with 2 LL, 2 ML and 3 Streaks with a 360XL and BAP. Think the issue with some mechs is they do not really shine until you have double basics. High energy mechs like most of the Awsomes really suffer before you get 2X on the Heat bonuses.

Also, you do not really notice how nible it is with out the 2X on the movement buffs. Get it to double basic before you abandon it.
There are mechs that are a lot easier to level than Awsomes though. If you really like the look, stick with it.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 02:28 PM

Cherry picked screen shots aside :( the Awesome isn't worthless, but other mechs are better. Much better.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 02:32 PM

One thing no one mentioned here but on most of your mech you want to strip lots of your back armor and put it on the front which is the side thats going to face your opponent, on a wide AWS its even more important because yopu are easier to hit.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 02:44 PM

Ok, thanks for the info guys. I will stick with it, I am done with basics on the M9.
Now I am farming for an XL then I will farm more Cbills for other Awesome to be more Awesome!

That Awesome was the first I earned / got through Cbills. I bought the others (MC).

Guess I have to wait abit till I get the others :(





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