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[Krievian]

To repeat what I have previously said:

Krievian, on 04 June 2014 - 12:35 AM, said:

I am baffled, if not shocked, that the artistic license shown here, was approved for implementation in this product. Deferring (where doing so is a legitimate option) on the conservative side was one of the few attributes I appreciated about this product delivery team. Coolant suites for player models and contemporary renditions of neurohelmets I understand as keeping up with the times, but the re-imagining of National/Factional logos is an unprecedented and unjustified departure from the source material that offends even the most ardently anti-Clan spheroids, such as myself, and only reinforces the perception that the shortcomings of the publishing/marketing/development firms make customer buy-in of this product not worth while.

It's too much different where it does not need to be and should not be different. While I appreciate the need to justify the work of the artists that produced these logos, this was unnecessary. This isn't MechWarrior: Dark Age where new customer buy in (by making things that they can claim as their own) is the principle goal; this is the opportunity to bring in the last of the MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat old timers into the fold.

[EvilCow]

The new ones are not bad but I still prefer the more abstract style of the classic ones.

[Mechteric]

I like the classic ones. But not because of nostalgia. But because they look more like what logos on banners usually look like. The new ones are more like icons, or something you might see on the side of the mech or tattoo'd on a clanners body, but not on a banner.

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 13 June 2014 - 05:07 AM.

[Ragedog4]

What I am see from what everyone is talking about is mostly a divide...

Wolf/Bear need to be done in classic with some better coloring, and Jade/Jaguar new are looking good. I think most people would like that.

I hope the best for the majority will get this option of best of both worlds. What can be done that PGI and others know we just don't want either Classic or New, but some of each? Ideas?

[Ryoken]

ragedog4, on 13 June 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

What I am see from what everyone is talking about is mostly a divide...

Wolf/Bear need to be done in classic with some better coloring, and Jade/Jaguar new are looking good. I think most people would like that.

I hope the best for the majority will get this option of best of both worlds. What can be done that PGI and others know we just don't want either Classic or New, but some of each? Ideas?

Well I disagree here. Wolf, Ghost Bear and Smoke Jaguar classics with mild refresh do look a lot better than the heavily redone.

The only logo that could be called to look better with the heavy rework is the Jadefalcon one to me. Still one could argue that it is not usable for a logo because it is to detailed and has bad lighting so it looses identifiability in smaller size. So even here while the heavy rework might look a tad better to me - I still have to agree that the classic with mild rework still is the better logo.

So it is classic with mild refresh all the way.

[SpinalDethpizza]

I like the new Clan Jade Falcon, Ghost Bear and Smoke Jagaur's logos a lot more than the originals for them. The new clan wolf's I find to be more appealing than the original except for the pupil. It just seems..... off (only thing that comes to mind when trying to explain it. Just feels at odds with the rest of the logos.... I can't stop staring at that part of the logo, it attracts the eye too much) Other than that, great work on it!

[Todo Sandybanks]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 10 June 2014 - 10:53 AM, said:

Greetings MechWarriors,

As you may have previously heard, a hot debate grew out of the initial release of the Clan logos. We are happy to announce today that we have finalized a second batch of logos for your consideration.

The first column presents the proposed classic logos. The second column presents the current re-imagined emblems.

------------------Proposed----------------------------------------Current--------------------
-------------Classic / Traditional----------------------Modern / Re-imagined------------


While there are aesthetic benefits to each design, it is ultimately you MechWarriors who be wearing and seeing these colours in action: We leave it in your hands to decide whether we stand with the modern or the traditional design.

This poll will remain open until Monday 16th of June, 2014 6 PM PDT / 9 PM EDT,

Please note, in the circumstance that the Proposed design is the winner of this poll, be aware that release of the new design in-game has an ETA for the next available patch, and similar changes to in-game cockpit items included with the Clan Collections further down the line.

OMG classic looks WAAAAAY Better!

[Euphoric1RW]

They are both cool, I voted for the

[Euphoric1RW]

Hades Trooper, on 12 June 2014 - 09:39 PM, said:

The new Jade Falcon looks awesome, please don't change my falcon, the old one was ok but this new one rocks, though i must say i like the old ghost bear over the new one,

Why not just keep all of them and let the pilot make a choice between the two, what is so wrong with that I ask?

[Johnny Z]

Cimarb, on 10 June 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

That's a hard choice....

Love the Ghost Bear classic head - MUCH better than the overly tilted modern version - but I like the rest of the modern version better. Torn on my vote.

Clan Wolf classic is immensely better across the board. Higher contrast and the background smaller. Definitely a vote for "classic" there.

Clan Jade Falcon... My vote would be modern, just because the classic bird looks so... I want to say dumb but that sounds insulting... Maybe bland is a better word? I like the increased contrast on it, but I have always disliked how that bird looked... My vote would have to be for modern on this one.

Clan Smoke Jaguar modern is much better to me in general, but I do like the "smokey" color of the Jag in the classic version. Again, a little torn on this one, but I think my vote would be for the modern version.

That all being said, the only two that I would ever actually wear as a faction would be Wolf and Ghost Bear, so I have to disqualify CSJ and CJF from my voting. That makes it a toss up for CGB and "classic" for CW, making my vote have to go for "classic" this time.

Still love having a vote at all! Thanks PGI (and especially Dennis and crew, as I know having your art critiqued is VERY personal, no matter how much you try to make it not be).

What he said.

[Gumon Choji]

I can say I like some of the new features in the design. The Ghost bear looks great outside the circle. Inside I like it but the growl looking up loses the bear staring you down look I like. Thus I think it is very close.

I think the Jade falcon emblum looks great in the new and old. But I think the old will be better on the mech or as a lable next to a name. But the new one is very nice. It actually reminds me of some of the covers of my favorite B tech book series.

The wolf looks too menacing. The old one wins there. Not due to quality but because the tone is too different.

Nova Cats. Well the new one is much better. The old one looked a bit sad even in the old days. But hey that is why so many players were Falcons, Wolves and Bears.




331 forever.

[Hrungnir]

Gumon Choji, on 13 June 2014 - 07:18 PM, said:

Nova Cats. Well the new one is much better. The old one looked a bit sad even in the old days. But hey that is why so many players were Falcons, Wolves and Bears.

Not sure if you're serious, but that's a Smoke Jaguar

[Sancho Kabrinski]

Classic thanx. The only modern good looking logo is the Smoke Jaguar. The Wolf and the Ghost bear clan classic logos are so much better..... And the other...well a parrot is a parrot, no matter what

[Tarzilman]

Krievian, on 13 June 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

To repeat what I have previously said:



It's too much different where it does not need to be and should not be different. While I appreciate the need to justify the work of the artists that produced these logos, this was unnecessary. This isn't MechWarrior: Dark Age where new customer buy in (by making things that they can claim as their own) is the principle goal; this is the opportunity to bring in the last of the MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat old timers into the fold.

Dude, they've started a poll and the community has spoken. No need to keep complaining and/or repeat yourself.

Edited by Tarzilman, 14 June 2014 - 02:28 AM.

[Rubidiy]

Edited by Rubidiy, 14 June 2014 - 05:51 AM.

[Ridersofdoom]

noooo the classic design will give them more power to the clans.

[MechLord71]

I agree with many of the opinions here and would hope for a hybrid (your poll should have been by individual logo and not in general):

Ghost bear - Classic without a doubt

Wolf - Classic without a doubt (would be great to have Crusader Red wolf and Warden gray wolf as options)

Jade Falcon - the modern logo without a doubt

Smoke Jaguar - hybrid...use the modern logo, but modify the jaguar color to a dark, smoke gray like traditional logo

[Old Tom]

3-1 to the Classic.

Jade Falcon is the only improvement.

Wolf and Ghost Bear are much better as classic.

Jaguar marginally better as classic (Colour of the Jaguar the tipping point.)

[Sable Phoenix]

The classics are better across the board. Although, some of the design choices still confuse me. Clan Wolf and Clan Smoke Jaguar are dead on for the originals. By contrast, Clan Jade Falcon has still been altered slightly (the wingtips turn upwards instead of down), and the Clan Ghost Bear logo even moreso. Frankly the head of the Bear, while better than the "reimagined" version, still bears almost no resemblance to the original. What the hell, PGI.

Edited by Sable Phoenix, 14 June 2014 - 11:26 PM.

[Jest Meister]

I like the classics much better Aside from the new design of smoke Jaguar...That saying, you should make the jaguar look like smoke...Not a freaking panther.

Edited by Jest Meister, 14 June 2014 - 11:35 PM.