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[stoph]

So I have recently built a new rig which by all rights should be running MWO on high settings without an issue.

CPU: AMD fx8320 (not overclocked)
GPU: XFX HD Radeon R9 270
RAM: 8 Gigs DDR3 @ 1600
Motherboard: Fata1ty Killer 990fx
OS: Windows 7 x64


Even on medium settings I'm regularly dropping below 30fps anytime there is a fair amount of movement on my screen.

My system is running every other game I have with much higher settings without any issues.

Please help.

Here are my current settings:

Edited by stoph, 12 June 2014 - 12:26 AM.

[p4r4g0n]

I'm guessing that the CPU is the issue as it has been frequently pointed out that the single core performance on the AMD CPUs just aren't comparable to Intel CPUs e.g. comparison between FX 8320 and i5 4570 where in this case the Intel CPU has a 50% better single core performance despite a comparable multi core performance.

Also, you may want to try disabling 4 of the cores as it has been reported that having all 8 running causes some kind of bottleneck. You may want to refer to this post by Karl Berg.

Haven't heard any complaints about the R9 270 so it probably isn't the problem.

Hope this helps

Edited by p4r4g0n, 12 June 2014 - 12:41 AM.

[Thrudvangar]

p4r4g0n, on 12 June 2014 - 12:39 AM, said:

I'm guessing that the CPU is the issue as it has been frequently pointed out that the single core performance on the AMD CPUs just aren't comparable to Intel CPUs e.g. comparison between FX 8320 and i5 4570 where in this case the Intel CPU has a 50% better single core performance despite a comparable multi core performance.

Also, you may want to try disabling 4 of the cores as it has been reported that having all 8 running causes some kind of bottleneck. You may want to refer to this post by Karl Berg.

Haven't heard any complaints about the R9 270 so it probably isn't the problem.

Hope this helps

Ive got the same cpu, 16gb ram @ 1600 and the same gfx card series and i play the game with 60 fps v-synched... and dont have problems. This game simply has a bad programming.

To the OP, try to activate the auto overclocking tweak within your bios so the cpu will turbo boost from 3,5ghz up to 4ghz when its needed and manually set your RAM to 1600mhz. I found out that the game works best for me when i choose to enable these tweaks in my bios.

Also you may keep all your gfx card driver settings to default/let application choose but set the image quality to "fastest".. i couldnt see any quality loss in the game butmits smoothier

I dont need to do any of these "tweaks" In other games, btw.

[p4r4g0n]

@Enzlaved - Just out of curiousity, what graphic settings and/or user.cfg settings are you using to get the 60 fps v-synched performance?

[stoph]

I did shut down 4 of the cores and it seemed to give a small boost 3-6 fps. I'll keep tweaking. Even though I have an upgraded CPU cooler, I hesitate to OC the CPU it just reduces the lifespan of the processor. I will try it though just to see what the advantage is.

[ninjitsu]

Make sure your cpu has adequate cooling before you attempt to overclock!!! Heat kills cpu's!

[Smokeyjedi]

I have had my 8350 clocked @4.8ghz for almost 2 years. Dust blockage and heat are my only issues. You could easily change the CPU multi to around 4.2-4.3 ghz without a voltage bump! those chips are practically begging for 4.5ghz I have hadmychip to1.6V @5.02 ghz on all 8 threads no throttling........Higher benches than stock I7 4770. after4.7ghz

[p4r4g0n]

@stoph

Just saw your screen shots. You might want to try running MWO on DX9 for somewhat better fps. If you had an NVIDIA GPU, DX11 might work better due to recent optimization in drivers.

[Smokeyjedi]

Ill just leave these here 1st link uncorks all 8 threads allows them to remain highly active-Thank me later....
http://bitsum.com/ab...ore_parking.php

Vishera fixed the scheduler issue that bulldozer experienced of not being able to feed both threads on 1 module at the same time.-Prifinitty 2 or process lasso.

This is a must have for MWO pilots with 8 thread Visheras, no other games require so much work on our part to scream FPS out from this monster chip. pick one.

http://www.bbses.inf...nitty/index.htm

https://bitsum.com/processlasso/-for thread control and Real-time CPU affinity

http://www.cpuid.com.../hwmonitor.html-to closely monitor temps,you will learn the chip after a while

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 12 June 2014 - 03:36 AM.

[Maver0ick]

As the others have said, it is probably the CPU. I have the Sapphire 7870 which is essentially the same as the R9 270. I have 16GB 1600 RAM but I haven't notice the PC use more than 8. So the main difference is my Intel 4770: with DirectX 11, high settings, I get 90+ fps and sometimes drops to 60+ fps.

[Goose]

Shading in MWO is the Quality slider in other CryEngine games, and is pretty much a GPU load thing: You could boost that.

Textures seems to be all about RAM on your card, so I think you could up that, too.

Environment, OTOH, is a CPU loader, so you seem to need to drop that to low.

Enzlaved, on 12 June 2014 - 12:56 AM, said:

… i play the game with 60 fps v-synched …

Graph or it didn't happen.

[Shamous13]

Goose, on 12 June 2014 - 07:38 AM, said:

Graph or it didn't happen.

I'm running a fx8350 oc'd to 4.2ghz 2 gigabyte hd 7870 crossfired and 16gb of 2400 ddr3 ram I see an average of 60+fps but their are dips in to the high 40's low 50's during a large brawl. I'll get screens tonight

[Thrudvangar]

p4r4g0n, on 12 June 2014 - 01:05 AM, said:

@Enzlaved - Just out of curiousity, what graphic settings and/or user.cfg settings are you using to get the 60 fps v-synched performance?

i play on very high graphic settings and dont have anything special in the user.cfg except that cockpit glass thing, nothing else.
dunno what everybodys problem is.

i also have MWO installed on my SSD, also my win7 is absolute clean, running since years without a single error. i'm a bit freaky about keeping my computers clean and fast running all the time

also try to disable firewall/antivirus program or add the MWO path (like C:\programs\mwo) in the exception options at your firewall/antivirus program. those realtime scanners working in the background are terrible sometimes.

try to avoid automatic updates at the times you're playing..

i'm using QIP (icq clone), mIRC, teamviewer and a few other programs in the background and never had problems with MWO except after one of the past patches were PGI ****** it up

Goose, on 12 June 2014 - 07:38 AM, said:

Shading in MWO is the Quality slider in other CryEngine games, and is pretty much a GPU load thing: You could boost that.

Textures seems to be all about RAM on your card, so I think you could up that, too.

Environment, OTOH, is a CPU loader, so you seem to need to drop that to low.


Graph or it didn't happen.

huh? why is this so hard to believe?

Edited by Enzlaved, 12 June 2014 - 09:11 AM.

[Smokeyjedi]

Enzlaved, on 12 June 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

i play on very high graphic settings and dont have anything special in the user.cfg except that cockpit glass thing, nothing else.
dunno what everybodys problem is.

i also have MWO installed on my SSD, also my win7 is absolute clean, running since years without a single error. i'm a bit freaky about keeping my computers clean and fast running all the time

also try to disable firewall/antivirus program or add the MWO path (like C:\programs\mwo) in the exception options at your firewall/antivirus program. those realtime scanners working in the background are terrible sometimes.

try to avoid automatic updates at the times you're playing..

i'm using QIP (icq clone), mIRC, teamviewer and a few other programs in the background and never had problems with MWO except after one of the past patches were PGI ****** it up



huh? why is this so hard to believe?

LOL Vsync to 60FPS in training grounds is easy.....you would need I7 4770K OC to 4.0+ to get anywhere near 60hz Vsync or 2011 socket intel xtreme,or the newer I7 4970 devils canyon to lock vsync in actual game, My 8350 still hits drops of 35ish @ 4,760mhz 8 threads on liquid cooling. I benchmark Right around I7 4770 @ stockclocks, yielding to single thread scores obviously.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 12 June 2014 - 09:34 AM.

[stoph]

Thanks all I really appreciate the input, I'll give these suggestions a look through and try to see which ones work best for my system.

[Thrudvangar]

forget it... senseless... im out

Edited by Enzlaved, 12 June 2014 - 10:02 AM.

[stoph]

Enzlaved, on 12 June 2014 - 09:49 AM, said:

forget it... senseless... im out

What?

[Shamous13]

Op, Try some of the things in this thread,

Also in your settings that you have posted turn of damage glow and turn shadows and particle effects to low.

[stoph]

There are a lot of posts talking about the user.cfg file, it is my understanding it was removed in a recent patch. Am I wrong? Is it still able to be modified? I've looked for it and have been unable to locate it.

[Shamous13]

It's open to be edited, It should be in your MWO folder. open it with note pad, edit and save. if you don't have a file called user.cfg then copy one of the other .cfg files and rename it to user , edit it and clear out every thing in the new file and start adding the cfg commands. note: they are case and spacing sensitive.