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[Pygar]

Kassatsu, on 12 June 2014 - 10:11 PM, said:

Until June 17th anyways. My Adder spoiled me way too much and it was just way too much fun to throw an LBX20 or UAC20 on it and watch mechs disintegrate in front of me while they were aiming for a much meatier teammate.

In related news, I'm selling pretty much every piece of IS tech I own outside of hero mechs.

I'll have to be playing because I need more Cbills for Pods and Clan weapons... I didn't have anywhere near enough spare cash on test server yesterday, lol

As for my Inner Sphere mechs- I have some that I already didn't feel very confident with (including an older Hero I bought) that might be on their way to the scrap heap soon, but I have at least 4 or 5 IS mechs that I think should still be ok. In either case, be very careful selling them, as you get next to nothing for selling mechs, and eventually "IIC" weapons will come out.

[Pygar]

Tom Sawyer, on 13 June 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

I ran my Atlas DC alot and did just fine. I even went toe to toe with a Dashi and got a kill. I will say this test was not exactly balanced. You had a mix of IS and Clan mechs dropping hodgepoge.

What will be interesting is in 2 weeks when you see all clan on one side and IS on the other.

Uh....that's not the way it's happening bro... the matches on the test server are exactly like they are going to be next week- 12v12 with mixed IS and Clan on each team. On the public servers there might be more IS mechs, but it remains to be seen...I think a lot of people bought Clans.

As far as what I flew on the test server last night- I couldn't help but to play Clans given that they are brand new and knowing that I was only going to have so much time before the test ended. I saw enough to say A: Don't worry, IS mechs are still going to be useful and B: While it might be more in line with the back story, no you really do not want separate Clan and IS queues, I don't think that would be fun for very long. (And no, the main argument against separate queues isn't player population, it's that making the Clans feel "exclusive" makes balancing them harder.)

Edited by Pygar, 13 June 2014 - 08:10 AM.

[DEMAX51]

I played several matches on the test server in IS mechs - maybe 10 or so in my Jenner-F and a handful more in my D-DC.

I died once in my Jenner when, late in the game, after I had already racked up 800 damage, a Kitfox popped me with a gauss/PPC combo and got my CT. In another game I went one on one with a Daishi and wrecked his face.

In my D-DC I had mostly average games (~400-450 dmg), but I had one game on Frozen City where I went toe-to-toe with 2 MadCats (one right after the other) and cored the **** out of them with 2 Alphas apiece.

Long story short, seeing the Clan 'Mechs in action made me cave and spring for the Timberwolf package, but I still think IS 'Mechs are going to be usable.

Edited by DEMAX51, 13 June 2014 - 08:10 AM.

[Fut]

Pygar, on 13 June 2014 - 08:07 AM, said:

I saw enough to say A: Don't worry, IS mechs are still going to be useful and B: While it might be more in line with the back story, no you really do not want separate Clan and IS queues, I don't think that would be fun for very long.

Great news for CW then, eh?

[Whaler]

I had a blast last night. Tuesday cannot come quick enough.

[Pygar]

Fut, on 13 June 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

Great news for CW then, eh?

PGI really doesn't have to force people to use "faction" mechs, so I don't see a problem. (I am not a story line purist, I have 0% nerd hurt being an IS pilot with Clan mechs...especially this far down the line in MWO, which has been ignoring the back story in regards to IS mechs from the get-go.)

Edited by Pygar, 13 June 2014 - 08:16 AM.

[Sephlock]

MeiSooHaityu, on 13 June 2014 - 07:51 AM, said:

I was going to stay with Steiner, but now I think I might see a position as a Freebirth Bondsman for Clan Wolf Ghost Bear in my future

FTFY.

Fut, on 13 June 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:

Don't hold your breath, buddy.
We won't see Clan vs IS until Community Warfare comes around - which should be in about a year or something.

It's very frustrating.
The major argument against "Clan vs IS" battles was that there wouldn't be enough Clan Players to fill the teams. From the sounds of it though, the PTS had loads of people running Clan Mechs (people only seeing a handful of IS during the tests) - which means there are more than enough people to have the MM separate Clan and IS onto separate teams for the PUG Queue.

Really? Because relative numbers are a thing... I'm just saying.

Also 3/3/3/3 would interact really badly with the Clans.

[Tsig]

Sephlock, on 13 June 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

FTFY.
Really? Because relative numbers are a thing... I'm just saying.

Also 3/3/3/3 would interact really badly with the Clans.

Badly how, exactly? I don't see how having 3 of each weight class of the clans would be a bad thing.

[Sephlock]

Tsig, on 13 June 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

Badly how, exactly? I don't see how having 3 of each weight class of the clans would be a bad thing.

Someone who took a screenshot of the scoreboard at the start of a match help me out here.

Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf

Warhawk
Timber Wolf
Timber Wolf
Summoner

Timber Wolf
Timber Wolf
Adder
Timber Wolf

[Mister Dubis]

Sephlock, on 13 June 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf

Warhawk
Timber Wolf
Timber Wolf
Summoner

Timber Wolf
Timber Wolf
Adder
Timber Wolf

all systems nominal... move along.

[LawDawg]

They did say this PTS was not final, and weapons were not tweaked to final for the 17th patch, and would be different. So I would wait and see.

Although I cant imagine they would change dramatically. Who knows though.

[Livewyr]

Sephlock, on 13 June 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

Someone who took a screenshot of the scoreboard at the start of a match help me out here.

Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolf

Warhawk
Timber Wolf
Timber Wolf
Summoner

Timber Wolf
Timber Wolf
Adder
Timber Wolf

Mister Dubis, on 13 June 2014 - 10:52 AM, said:

all systems nominal... move along.

Hey, it's not my fault the TBR is Medium, Heavy, and Assault at the same time. Clan Wolf builds good things.

I find it a little more than coincidental that CJF introduced the "Summoner" and CW introduced the "Timber Wolf." *snicker snicker*

Sephlock, on 13 June 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

FTFY.

Why? He got it right the first time.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Fut, on 13 June 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:

Don't hold your breath, buddy.
We won't see Clan vs IS until Community Warfare comes around - which should be in about a year or something.

It's very frustrating.
The major argument against "Clan vs IS" battles was that there wouldn't be enough Clan Players to fill the teams. From the sounds of it though, the PTS had loads of people running Clan Mechs (people only seeing a handful of IS during the tests) - which means there are more than enough people to have the MM separate Clan and IS onto separate teams for the PUG Queue.

Or they could go 8v8 for Clan vs IS until like next year or w/e....

[MonkeyCheese]

Kassatsu, on 12 June 2014 - 10:11 PM, said:

Until June 17th anyways. My Adder spoiled me way too much.

Oh I know, I am still crafting kitfox builds in my head

[R Razor]

I don't want to see IS mechs get a buff..........I want to see the Clans have the technological advantage they are supposed to have..........then I want to see them limited to dropping 8 or 9 V 12 ala lore (not that those numbers are lore, but clans not putting as many Battlemechs in the field as the IS forces did)..........should make the game far more interesting that way.

Edited by R Razor, 13 June 2014 - 01:47 PM.

[Spr1ggan]

Kyle Wright, on 12 June 2014 - 10:13 PM, said:

I played everything up to the Timberwolf. All were good and unique. The matches were all very close majority of the time. I felt really bad for the IS mechs that got stuck in the onslaught because they simply got picked a part. Hopefully IS mechs will get a buff and we will get some role warfare or something that in CW will put the Clans at some disadvantage.

Which IS mechs? I was seeing 3D's and DS's pwning a lot of clan mechs.

[divinedisclaimer]

Kassatsu, on 12 June 2014 - 10:11 PM, said:

In related news, I'm deleting pretty much every piece of IS tech I own outside of hero mechs.

Fixed that sentence for you/

McHarg, on 13 June 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

Which IS mechs? I was seeing 3D's and DS's pwning a lot of clan mechs.

How will you clan mech impact my 900 average damage 3D rounds, which I got Ace of Spades a second time in yesterday, with a match score near 200 and 1,200 damage?

I will take off the lasers and bring more ammo, that's how.

Edited by divinedisclaimer, 13 June 2014 - 02:40 PM.

[Zolaz]

Clan mechs with Basic skill trees were better or equal to Mastered Inner Sphere mechs. Saying that Clan tech is in a balanced state makes me feel like you have a Clan package. Most of the IS mechs will be eclipsed by Clan tech.

When Clans drop the meta will change. You will see few IS mechs if there arent large changes.

Edited by Zolaz, 13 June 2014 - 02:53 PM.

[Rampage Starfire Hall]

divinedisclaimer, on 13 June 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Protip: adding overpowered mechanics to competitive online shooters isn't good for the size of their playerbases. There's a pretty good precedent there.

What you talkin' about Willis?

This is not a Competitive Online Shooter, this is a Big Stompy Robot fun game

[JohnnyWayne]

Well folks, Sunday next clan test.