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Do You Have Hit Detection Problem With Clan Er Ppc ?

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#1 Urdasein

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 12:33 PM

All is in the title.

I'm sure hitting my target but i doesn't have a hit marker...

Do you exprience same thing ? Is PGI aware of that ?

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 19 June 2014 - 04:02 PM.


#2 Smudge504

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 05:28 PM

I have noticed this quite a bit today in my Warhawk prime, even on stationary targets i'll fire a few bursts of CERPPCs 2 or 3 will hit but then 1 or 2 will just not register or even look like they are flying through the target.

#3 Tesunie

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 05:38 PM

While spectating a CERPPC user (I don't own clans myself), I noticed his shots weren't "spreading the damage" with the PPC arc function. So, I'd have to agree. CERPPCs seem to not be dealing the proper damage, either registration or lack of splash damage. (I believe it to be a registration issue, or possibly a coding issue similar to the resent SRM issue. It hits, registers, and then the "arc code" might be negating the damage somehow...?)

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:23 PM

I just tested it on my Warhawk Prime in the training grounds, and every 3rd or 4th C-ERPPC shot does no damage.

#5 SmokinDave73

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 05:15 AM

I have also noticed this on my warhawk, I would shoot my 2 er ppcs and get no damage even though it hits the target. I have also seen this watching Sean Langs vod on twitch tv occur multiple times in a row start at 38.59 http://www.twitch.tv...tv/b/540020142 Clan ER PPCS not doing damage with their heat is unacceptable.

Edited by SmokinDave73, 22 June 2014 - 10:52 AM.


#6 Lily from animove

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 05:21 AM

I would throw in the alsers too, compared to the PTS I have the feeling that using the Nova does a load of less damage when I hit other mechs.

#7 Tyman4

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:16 AM

I've had the same with IS ppc bolts. PPC just passes right through with no indication of hit or damage. I thought it was a ping issue? I'm around 200. Still it works...mostly when you whisper quite words of praise to your erppc.

#8 Desintegrator

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:28 AM

That is nothing new.

PPC hit detection is not good, but that has nothing to do with the latest patch. The hit detection deteriorated significantly after the implementation of 12 vs 12 matches and after reducing the projectile speed from 2000 m/s to 1500 m/s.

The "hit rate" for me is around ~ 50 % of the shoots i fire. (...while 100% visually hit the target on my screen)

Sometime it even happens on the training ground, when you shoot at the Mechs there -> no hit, no damage.
But the Mechs dont move fast, when you use the training ground...

#9 Summon3r

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:36 AM

this is most definitely an issue and a bad one, and it is still here from both public tests where people were reporting it all over the place....

yesterday was awful for cerppc for me aswell, on one occasion vs a storm crow my 2 cerppc on my screen were showing dead center hits at about 600m he was moving laterally and absolutely no dmg flash at all.... extremely frustrating!

#10 Desintegrator

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:44 AM

Yeah, that can be frustrating - if you do no damage, but have to deal with the heat and overheat your Mech "for nothing".

Maybe its time to replace that PPC's with some lasers, until they have fixed this problem it in a few months.

Edited by Desintegrator, 20 June 2014 - 07:45 AM.


#11 Tesunie

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:01 AM

View PostDesintegrator, on 20 June 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

The "hit rate" for me is around ~ 50 % of the shoots i fire. (...while 100% visually hit the target on my screen)


Though I do not doubt (and believe) CERPPCs are having issues, I highly doubt you have a 100% hit rate, and only 50% of your shots "register". Seen as the average accuracy rating for weapons I find from posted stats on the forums (and my own) seem to rest around 60%, I'd say if this runs true that only about 10% of your PPC shots are not registering. (Still a significant number.)

#12 Gigastrike

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:00 PM

I've been chain firing 2 ER PPCs for a few hours tonight, and I've certainly noticed a problem. It only seems to show up when I fire the shots in too quick a succession.

#13 Urdasein

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 08:09 AM

Yes, with my 4 ERPPC warhawk, i have this problem when rapid firing.

#14 Tesunie

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 08:30 AM

View Postloupgaroupoilu, on 21 June 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

Yes, with my 4 ERPPC warhawk, i have this problem when rapid firing.


I've had this problem off and on for a long time with my dual PPC, LPL Thunderbolt. If I shoot the PPCs in rapid succession, the first will hit and register. The second bolt will shoot, hit, but do nothing...

However, I've been seeing it more with CERPPCs when I spectate than I do with IS PPCs, as most of the time IS PPCs seem to register damage, unless shot in rapid succession of one another.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:54 AM

I have noticed the same thing. And, also noticed that firing a gauss round after a burst of lasers, the gauss round will not register either until the beam duration ends and then I fire, or, fire the gauss alone.

#16 Maphr

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 11:13 AM

I have noticed that in my kit fox I have to wait a full second before firing my second c-erppc. If I don't and fire one right after the other then it won't register the hit when it clearly hits.

#17 Masterzinja

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 01:25 PM

I've also noticed that the C-erppc seems to collide with things that it should pass, for instance invisible walls around the edge of terrain that it visually should be passing, but that somehow stop it. My guess is that it has a larger projectile size than it's actual visual model and many of my shots end up clipping things they shouldn't.

#18 RiceCop

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:12 PM

Yes, I have experienced this as well. First PPC hits, second does nothing, no hit indication on HUD either, just stays blue.

#19 SmokinDave73

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 08:17 AM

Still having major issue with ER PPC hit registration. This is extreamly frustrating giving that they cause 15 heat a pop.

#20 Claviger

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 07:26 PM

Yes it is terribadtrash.

I have replaced them with C-ER LL until it is fixed.





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