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[Nicholas Carlyle]

This guy whined at me for having two LRM 20's on a Timberwolf...how sad is that? lol.

[Dolph Hoskins]

If I were a dev I would reflexively trash bin any post that had OP or nerf in the title.

Aside from that, lrms seem to either hammer the crap out of you, your teammates, or your enemies. Or they are rendered useless from things such as a lack of team spotting/tagging/ narcing capabilities and certain maps with cover and concealing terrain.

Hmmm that sounds like a fairly situational and balanced application of lrm's to me.

Perhaps what people are complaining most about is when they get put in a map that is ripe for clear lrm flight with a team that lacks 1. LRMs 2. Spotters 3. Living spotters with advanced targeting tools TAG/NARC.

In that kind of situation yeah, they feel pretty damn op because your side either can't move or poke your heads up to do anything because you are so ill equipped to deal with what the enemy has. That would have nothing to do with the weapon system, it just proves more and more that you had better pull off some magic or get pounded into dust because your lack team components that the other side does have.

Being beaten by the right weapon for the job doesn't prove anything except that it works as intended.

Edited by The Ripper13, 20 June 2014 - 03:27 PM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

The Ripper13, on 20 June 2014 - 03:26 PM, said:

If I were a dev I would reflexively trash bin any post that had OP or nerf in the title.

Aside from that, lrms seem to either hammer the crap out of you, your teammates, or your enemies. Or they are rendered useless from things such as a lack of team spotting/tagging/ narcing capabilities and certain maps with cover and concealing terrain.

Hmmm that sounds like a fairly situational and balanced application of lrm's to me.

Perhaps what people are complaining most about is when they get put in a map that is ripe for clear lrm flight with a team that lacks 1. LRMs 2. Spotters 3. Living spotters with advanced targeting tools TAG/NARC.

In that kind of situation yeah, they feel pretty damn op because your side either can't move or poke your heads up to do anything because you are so ill equipped to deal with what the enemy has. That would have nothing to do with the weapon system, it just proves more and more that you had better pull off some magic or get pounded into dust because your lack team components that the other side does have.

Being beaten by the right weapon for the job doesn't prove anything except that it works as intended.

LRMs are a mess because there are too many factors. Mostly because they added in ECM as a hardcounter and tried to balance around it.

They need a full rework, while making ECM do what it did in table top. And remove all the damn module counters/buffs.

Unless the matchmaker is going to take the time to match up every variable it's always going to cause issues.

If you land on caustic with no ECM, no AMS and the other team has NARC and LRMs you have problems.

If you land on River City, and you have 6 LRM mechs and they have 10 AMS and 3 ECM, you are probably going to get rolled.

It's stupid.

Edited by Nicholas Carlyle, 20 June 2014 - 03:35 PM.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 June 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Making the best of a bad situation when you are 100% dead meat is very gratifying.

Not everyone can be John Rambo, and most teams discourage it.

Nicholas Carlyle, on 20 June 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

This guy whined at me for having two LRM 20's on a Timberwolf...how sad is that? lol.

You were contributing to the problem so there's nothing sad with it. The only thing sad is how you're mocking a poster because your opinions differ.

Edited by lockwoodx, 20 June 2014 - 03:37 PM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

lockwoodx, on 20 June 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

Not everyone can be John Rambo, and most teams discourage it.

You were contributing to the problem so there's nothing sad with it. The only thing sad is how you're mocking a poster because your opinions differ.

Look who's back derping in LRM threads! That was fast.

[Lyoto Machida]

lockwoodx, on 20 June 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

Not everyone can be John Rambo, and most teams discourage it.



You were contributing to the problem so there's nothing sad with it. The only thing sad is how you're mocking a poster because your opinions differ.

He's mocking him (and you), because Timberwolves come stock with 2 LRM20s.

http://www.sarna.net...f_%28Mad_Cat%29

Cry moar.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Lyoto Machida, on 20 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

He's mocking him (and you), because Timberwolves come stock with 2 LRM20s.

http://www.sarna.net...f_%28Mad_Cat%29

Cry moar.

I mean seriously...it's stock....STOCK.

[Wolfways]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 20 June 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

I mean seriously...it's stock....STOCK.

I've had my own team (PUG) laughing at me and saying they are glad the "No-skill boater hiding at the back all match" was getting killed.

I was the last on my team to die.
I spent the whole match direct-firing at around 300m.
I was in a stock CPLT-C1.

[Joseph Mallan]

lockwoodx, on 20 June 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

Not everyone can be John Rambo, and most teams discourage it.

I said make the best of what you got, not pretend you are a fictitious character in a really bad movie!

Improvise Adapt Overcome.

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An unofficial mantra of the Marine Corps based on the fact that the Corps generally received Army hand-me-downs and the troops were poorly equipped. Despite this, the Marine Corps has been successful mostly because of the creativity of its people and their success-based attitude.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 20 June 2014 - 04:58 PM.

[thantos911]

for such a OP weapon i sure don't see many mechs bringing AMS to the field.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 June 2014 - 04:58 PM, said:

I said make the best of what you got, not pretend you are a fictitious character in a really bad movie!

This game doesn't reward making the best of what you've got, it rewards what you paid for in cash. The rest suffer greatly while playing catch-up.

[Joseph Mallan]

lockwoodx, on 20 June 2014 - 05:08 PM, said:

This game doesn't reward making the best of what you've got, it rewards what you paid for in cash. The rest suffer greatly while playing catch-up.

I haven't paid a dime in well over a year, and I have had a pretty dam good run since.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 June 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

I haven't paid a dime in well over a year, and I have had a pretty dam good run since.

I can respect that. It doesn't change the issue of advantages those that do pay get.

[Joseph Mallan]

lockwoodx, on 20 June 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

I can respect that. It doesn't change the issue of advantages those that do pay get.

I haven't seen an advantage they have that I haven't overcome paying nothing Lock.

lockwoodx, on 20 June 2014 - 05:08 PM, said:

This game doesn't reward making the best of what you've got, it rewards what you paid for in cash. The rest suffer greatly while playing catch-up.

I do wish you'd give me these memos so I knew my game experience is supposed to suck Lock. Get with the program keep me in the loop so I can be old AND bitter.

[Wolfways]

lockwoodx, on 20 June 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

I can respect that. It doesn't change the issue of advantages those that do pay get.

What exactly are those advantages?

[Joseph Mallan]

Wolfways, on 20 June 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

What exactly are those advantages?

They don't have to wait!

[Wolfways]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 June 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

They don't have to wait!

lol well yeah, i meant other than that

Nuts, now you reminded me how long i have to wait

[Joseph Mallan]

Wolfways, on 20 June 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:

lol well yeah, i meant other than that

Nuts, now you reminded me how long i have to wait

Be married for as long as I have... you get used to waiting!

[anonymous161]

I think they are great where they are.

[Wolfways]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 June 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

Be married for as long as I have... you get used to waiting!

22 years...but at least she's a gamer
Pity she won't play MWO much anymore though...She so regrets buying the Phoenix and Sabre mechs. I don't blame her though...IS rubbish

Darth Bane001, on 20 June 2014 - 07:03 PM, said:

I think they are great where they are.

Wash your mouth out! They suck!