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#1 Alfonso McQuirko

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 09:17 PM

Will be ram, club attack, punch and kicks coming on in Mwo???

That would be beautifull...

scuse me for ma aweful english.

#2 Kassatsu

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:03 AM

Would be nice, and would open up a whole new line of potential melee-oriented mechs (and guess what? it's even canon), as well as allowing mechs with hand actuators (hey a reason to check that second box for clan mechs!) to throw punches... But sadly, no.

Poor hand actuators. Maybe some day there will be a "grab the crate" mode where mechs without proper hand actuators are borderline useless apart from shooting the enemy team. Probably not though.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:12 AM

View PostAlfonso McQuirko, on 23 June 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

Will be ram, club attack, punch and kicks coming on in Mwo???

That would be beautifull...

scuse me for ma aweful english.


Ram is already in the game. But it is not impressive without "knock downs."


With knockdowns, it is a lot more impressive.



Knockdowns will come back after January 2015. :)
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Club, punch, kick might never happen.

#4 Kilo 40

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:17 AM

I'm fine with knockdowns, but clubs and punching and kicking? No thanks.

that would be an "I'm out" moment for me.

#5 Kain

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:38 AM

Melee attacks will (probably) never be implemented.
Mechwarrior games have always been oriented about ranged combat, and never had melee attacks.
Also PGI said that they are not looking into melee attacks at the moment and categorized it under "maybe", so that is a no..

Knockdows and Death from Above are probably the only types of physical attack we will eventually get.

#6 Kilo 40

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:43 AM

View PostKain, on 24 June 2014 - 12:38 AM, said:

and never had melee attacks.


yes they have. They've even had mechs that specialize in it.

I still don'y like it, but it's not unprecedented at all.

#7 Alfonso McQuirko

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:51 AM

The atlas gonna be a formidable mech, with kick and punchs, and the Hatchetman can be added!

So, i never played a mechwarrior game before (this is my first one)

I like mwo to be a Battletech portation.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:58 AM

View PostKilo 40, on 24 June 2014 - 12:43 AM, said:


yes they have. They've even had mechs that specialize in it.

I still don'y like it, but it's not unprecedented at all.


I said Mechwarrior

Mechwarrior != Battletech

In the Battletech universe,mechs can kick, punch, use melee weapons etc, but in the Mechwarrior computer games those attacks have never made it to the gameplay, because those games are First person sims / shooters with the focus on ranged combat.

#9 Kilo 40

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:00 AM

View PostKain, on 24 June 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:


I said Mechwarrior

Mechwarrior != Battletech


whatever

#10 Colonel Fubar

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:10 AM

"Metal Damage, Brain Damage are you listening PGI Bronze?"
We want Kickers and screamers! :)

#11 TOPGUN Stinger

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:36 AM

View PostAlfonso McQuirko, on 23 June 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

Will be ram, club attack, punch and kicks coming on in Mwo???

That would be beautifull...

scuse me for ma aweful english.


You speaking of melee or collisions or both>?

#12 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:52 AM

View PostKilo 40, on 24 June 2014 - 12:43 AM, said:


yes they have. They've even had mechs that specialize in it.

I still don'y like it, but it's not unprecedented at all.


Mechwarrior, As a game franchise, has NEVER had melee, save for MekTek's MW4 Mercs Battlearmor having a "claw" attack that had an attack animation that looked like it was shooting a very, very short ranged gauss slug.

The Mechwarrior game franchise has NEVER had Melee combat, There's been ramming, but never punching/kicking/clubs/swords.

Now BATTLETECH on the other hand, the board game, yes it has melee, but it's never been ported in a way that works in Mechwarrior. and it's unlikely PGI would be able to even do it.

#13 Kilo 40

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 02:39 AM

View PostFlash Frame, on 24 June 2014 - 01:52 AM, said:


Mechwarrior, As a game franchise, has NEVER had melee, save for MekTek's MW4 Mercs Battlearmor having a "claw" attack that had an attack animation that looked like it was shooting a very, very short ranged gauss slug.

The Mechwarrior game franchise has NEVER had Melee combat, There's been ramming, but never punching/kicking/clubs/swords.

Now BATTLETECH on the other hand, the board game, yes it has melee, but it's never been ported in a way that works in Mechwarrior. and it's unlikely PGI would be able to even do it.


as I said..."whatever"

#14 Impyrium

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:08 AM

View PostKilo 40, on 24 June 2014 - 02:39 AM, said:


as I said..."whatever"


The smart person wouldn't sulk over being proved wrong, they'd say "Whoops, didn't realize that, thanks for pointing it out", and then leave it.

Regarding melee, I don't think it'll ever happen because it'd significantly change the MW formula, which would make a lot of people grumpy, but it'd sure be an interesting shake up that this game really needs.

#15 TLBFestus

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:18 AM

View PostKilo 40, on 24 June 2014 - 12:43 AM, said:


yes they have. They've even had mechs that specialize in it.

I still don'y like it, but it's not unprecedented at all.



I think he was referring to the computer games, not TT.

EDIT- dang, read a bit farther and people already pointed this out. Carry on..nothing to see here.

Edited by TLBFestus, 24 June 2014 - 08:19 AM.


#16 stjobe

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 09:01 AM

MechWarrior may not have had melee, but MechWarrior sure had.

For those keeping score, please notice that MechWarrior is apocryphal, but MechWarrior is canon ;)

#17 Alfonso McQuirko

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 12:49 AM

View PostTOPGUN Stinger, on 24 June 2014 - 01:36 AM, said:

You speaking of melee or collisions or both>?


Both



View PostKain, on 24 June 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:


I said Mechwarrior

Mechwarrior != Battletech

In the Battletech universe,mechs can kick, punch, use melee weapons etc, but in the Mechwarrior computer games those attacks have never made it to the gameplay, because those games are First person sims / shooters with the focus on ranged combat.



And yes... its a First person sim, a sim of mechs who can give punches and kicks, short, medium and long range shoots... but never has been added in MW... I think if wasnt for technical limitations of the time...





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