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[Fang01]

Tarriss Halcyon, on 27 June 2014 - 04:04 AM, said:

What's the point?

IT'S NOT A GODDAMN RAVEN. THAT'S THE POINT.

I love my Kit Fox, and I loathe Raven. I especially hate the 2ERLL Ravens who think that, because they have a "snipers" loadout, and ECM, that they can sit off on their own and do that, depriving the team of it's ECM.

That's all well and good, except for the arrogance attached to it. But the Kit Fox is far more versatile than that jack of all trades IS mech. Triple AMS and ECM basically makes you a portable missile shield. If you're running support gear, your assaults love you when you stay with them and keep the missiles off their backs. Other mechs love you, because you've got more firepower than a light mech should, and you protect them. Ravens are neutral to you, because they still feel that they've got some superiority... they really don't...

What you should NOT do is run the Kit Fox like an ERLL Raven. Ever. Arm hardpoints are too low-slung, even for poptarting, and I suggest that you NEVER poptart Large Lasers. You've got better ballistic weapons, and high-mounted torso ballistics in the KTF-S. You've got quarter-tonne MGs, longer-ranged lasers and SRMs, what is there that you could possibly desire?

If you want to play like an ERLL Raven, stop. Get out of the Kit Fox. Get into the ERLL Raven. Play that.

Deprive? Perhaps if you wanted use of a certain piece of equipment you should have brought it yourself instead of being a dependapotamus

[GunnyKintaro 01]

I run mine with 1 erppc 1 spl 2 mgs ecm and a ssrm4... that's just one of my builds.. I enjoy them a lot !

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

ECM, 3AMS, 2LRM15s fun

2xERLL TAG ECM ...also fun

take the deprivation module to help survival

[Shiro Matsumoto]

Clan lights are not IS scout mechs. Play them like light mediums, and support the heavier mechs, hug them, dont get caught alone scouting my IS lights.

Triple AMS / ECM, other clanners like you for it.

[ApostleXIII]

Koniving, on 27 June 2014 - 04:46 AM, said:

I had a build with twin UAC/2, 1 ER ML, and 2 SRM-6s with a few jumpjets and plenty of ammunition alongside the ECM and triple AMS. Perfectly viable. Snipe with the UAC/2s. When things get close shotgun 'em with the SRMs. Don't like your enemies? Jump over them.

There's some side torsos and some legs that allow jumpjets.

97 is MORE than fast enough for a light mech. I mean heck, my Ember and firestarters are perfect examples of how viable a brawling light without ECM is. Just requires intelligent positioning and engagement.

Can you share the smurfy build for this? I don't see how it is possible to have triple AMS and dual UAC/2... let alone dual UAC/2, ERML, 2 x SRM 6 even if you strip back the armor to bare.

Closest I got to is this.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...55c82df510b9d64

[Koniving]

ApostleXIII, on 06 July 2014 - 05:06 PM, said:

Can you share the smurfy build for this? I don't see how it is possible to have triple AMS and dual UAC/2... let alone dual UAC/2, ERML, 2 x SRM 6 even if you strip back the armor to bare.

Go back into the pages, you'll find 3 smurfy builds.

[Devlin Pierce]

Need to play this mech more like a small medium then a light. Stick with the main force, use your triple AMS, ECM, Narcs to help your team.

[Clownwarlord]

Tereva, on 26 June 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

Hi all,

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me that the KitFox has the same game-play as the Raven 3L
The difference being :
* 30% less speed
* worst heat efficiency
* Jumpjet

Sure having jumpjets is nice, but I do not think they conter balance the lower speed and worse heat.

Any idea to make it more enjoyable ?

Thx

Tereva

Weapons that you can place on a Kit Fox are far better then a Raven.

KFX-PRIME

As you can see ... 2 ER Large, 3 AMS, 2 JJ, ECM, 2 MGs and plenty of ammunition. So with the Raven you usually see ECM and 2 ER Large and thats it. You give up speed and heat for that.

[dragnier1]

John McFianna, on 01 July 2014 - 12:39 AM, said:

Clan lights are not IS scout mechs. Play them like light mediums, and support the heavier mechs, hug them, dont get caught alone scouting my IS lights.

Triple AMS / ECM, other clanners like you for it.

Doesn't ecm cover a wider radius than ams? I'm thinking just ecm would be enough, unless you get hit by ppc.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

I like to call myself an expert light pilot, especially ravens and spiders. I have seen the capability of the Kit Fox and I'm here to tell you I don't need the speed and when I get my hands on those shiny variants oh.. oh it will be amazing.

[ApostleXIII]

Koniving, on 06 July 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:

Go back into the pages, you'll find 3 smurfy builds.

I did.... None of which has a triple AMS + dual uac/2 + dual SRM 6 which I was interested in.

The closest was 1 x AMS, dual uac/2, dual srm4.

[Koniving]

ApostleXIII, on 07 July 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

I did.... None of which has a triple AMS + dual uac/2 + dual SRM 6 which I was interested in.

The closest was 1 x AMS, dual uac/2, dual srm4.

That's because it wasn't possible. Too heavy or lose too much armor. I tend to post even at odd sleepy hours of the night and morning. When I came back I put up the evolution of the mechs (when I mentioned the Kitfox I sorta mixed the best features of the builds together).

But here's one with 5 AMS...if you count the mech on its back. After poking fun at the Dire Wolf animation fail.

[loopala]

for me the kit fox has been half a cplt, but with ecm. the weapon load outs that work for me is basically 1/2 of what i arm a cplt with. the play style is not cplt or IS light scout. so far my best games are playing assault escorts. get between a couple of drws and scratch their backs. not at all like the rvn, that is a sneaky spot and stalk mech. oh i do a bit of spotting but never get too far from the heavies.

Edited by loopala, 07 July 2014 - 06:36 PM.

[Ngamok]

Just because the Kit Fox (and the Adder) have a slower top speed potential than the IS Lights doesn't mean you can't play them the same. You just have to play smarter and not let those faster lights wolf pack you. I do play my Kit Fox S as a 2x ERLL 2x MG 1x NARC + ECM Light. What I don't do is what the Raven 3L does, going out alone because I don't have the speed to escape. Same deal with my Prime on speed but it's more of an escort with 3x AMS 3x ERML + ECM

Edited by Ngamok, 08 July 2014 - 06:40 AM.

[JC Daxion]

well, one is clan,... the other is inner sphere.... by guess is it is the other side