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#1 TexAce

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 05:38 AM

Solo queue is a horde of monkeys. I miss coordinated, communicative play. I wanna drop solo in the shark tank and fill loose spots. Please!

I take command every time I can, I try to lead, sometimes I succeed (turned a 3-7 match today after I took lead, because I had the luck to have people in my team who were able to read) but this is so stressfull...

please....I'm here since CB, I got nearly 5K drops, I know how to play, let me play within the group queue.

Edited by TexAss, 03 August 2014 - 10:49 AM.


#2 El Bandito

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 05:53 AM

Just look for groups online. Not hard to do.

Solo-Q is now like Arkham Asylum. Just my favorite kind of playground. I am having a helluva FUN! Relatively speaking, compared to before, that is.

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Edited by El Bandito, 03 August 2014 - 06:08 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 05:54 AM

marik is a good place, with peeps on the whole day join up and find out

#4 Willard Phule

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 05:55 AM

Remember, since the matchmaker was re-written, the better you are....the more new players you're expected to carry.

That's PGI's answer to "new player content," apparently. Why bother to spend resources teaching new players how to actually play the game when you can put them into the shark tank and let the other people deal with them? As long as they give us a few bucks, we're happy. Right?

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:05 AM

Again, adding solos to group queue makes it anything but group queue, and well, you may as well not have both then. You're not going to have helpful coordinated play just by tagging along with other groups. YOU need to be part of a, or the, group.

#6 TexAce

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:06 AM

View PostWillard Phule, on 03 August 2014 - 05:55 AM, said:

Remember, since the matchmaker was re-written, the better you are....the more new players you're expected to carry.

That's PGI's answer to "new player content," apparently. Why bother to spend resources teaching new players how to actually play the game when you can put them into the shark tank and let the other people deal with them? As long as they give us a few bucks, we're happy. Right?


exactly, thats the biggest problem for me, I wanna play with people who have as much experience as I do in the solo queue, but no, I gotta carry the **** out of every match, because of the damn team ELO packing me together with new guys.

Edited by TexAss, 03 August 2014 - 06:07 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:09 AM

View PostTexAss, on 03 August 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

Solo queue is a horde of monkeys. I miss coordinated, communicative play. I wanna drop solo in a the shark tank and fill loose spots. Please!

I take command every time I can, I try to lead, sometimes I succeed (turned a 3-7 match today after I took lead, because I had the luck to have people in my team who were able to read) but this is so stressfull...

please....

I understand you perfectly.
A few months ago I thought to do a macro: when I drop, clicking a button the macro writes this text on team chat: " Stay group. Don't go alone. Don't run towards 12 enemy mechs. Don't shoot if a friendly mech is in front yours. Stay cover..." etc.
But as you wrote, I thought it would be wasted time: it is not sure thing that noobs read :)
I'd like pgi give the possibility to choose where to drop (the map), with whom (without beong forced to private plays, and formed groups), choosing correct mech in given map.
MWO is still too casual.

#8 El Bandito

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:09 AM

I say, "Bring me your walking dead, the noob, the tired, and the trolls!"

I'll make use of them and still get the C-Bills. Even losing, I get tons of money.

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Edited by El Bandito, 03 August 2014 - 06:26 AM.


#9 John1352

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:18 AM

I support this actually, group waiting times can get really bad, I assume it happens because the groups available to the matchmaker are the following sizes (for example) 9, 7, 4, 2, 9, 2, 12, 2, 7. That's 54 players, enough for two whole games plus six left over, and it is impossible to make a single game from that bunch. With 3 additional solo players, the matchmaker could make two games.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:22 AM

jump around the various TS servers...........House Liao always embraces those looking for more.......
Houseliaovoice.com -TS3 address
no Password
We have a solid representation of Euro and US based times so hopefully we can meet your playtime needs....I know you wont be displeased in our Jeckyll and Hyde casual/competitive play style......

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:28 AM

"Join a group on TS" misses a key point...the fact that I don't want to be on TS sometimes. I'd rather drop into the group queue solo and fill in the last spot.

I'm a copywriter and social media manager, so I like to get in matches in between tasks. A TS group wouldn't be very happy with that.

#12 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:31 AM

I like dropping into solo queue when I want to feel like a god, just because so many players there are so... bad. Lacking situational awareness, accuracy, common sense, or the ability to walk and shoot at the same time. I also like going into solo to find the diamonds in the rough, or those with good attitudes, as, being solo queue, there is a good chance they have not been scooped up by a unit yet.

That said:

This was what the solo-queue players asked for, is it not? Not to be stuck dropping against groups? Not to be bullied by friendly groups just trying to organize the team into a semblance of tactical organization?

I know what I feel is technically wrong from a standpoint of being a good person, but, frak it. This community makes demands to PGI. They followed through in this one, and now solo queue players got what they wanted. For better or worse, you got what you wanted. I am content to let it soak in for a bit.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 03 August 2014 - 06:47 AM.


#13 Wintersdark

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 07:04 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 03 August 2014 - 05:53 AM, said:

Just look for groups online. Not hard to do.

It is, when you can't play in groups most of the time. Shift work, family obligations, etc.

I run in groups whenever I get the chance, and moreso now than before given the nature of the games in the two queues, but it's still often extremely difficult to impossible for me to run in groups.

#14 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 07:05 AM

Ya know, Winters... if you are not in a unit, CNC has room for ya. :P A couple G+ have been slowly migrating over the past few weeks. XD

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 07:32 AM

I don't understand. What is stopping you from finding people in game and grouping up with them? If you're not part of a unit or don't have any friends, play solo until you meet someone who does well. Then friend request them. If they accept it, you then ask if he wants to group up. You then ask if he wants to get on teamspeak or something. You then play.

Rinse and repeat.

#16 Wintersdark

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:00 AM

View PostJman5, on 03 August 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

I don't understand. What is stopping you from finding people in game and grouping up with them? If you're not part of a unit or don't have any friends, play solo until you meet someone who does well. Then friend request them. If they accept it, you then ask if he wants to group up. You then ask if he wants to get on teamspeak or something. You then play.

Rinse and repeat.
I'll explain this yet again.

What happens is this: I have multiple small children. Small children very often require attention for some reason or another right now and for an undetermined amount of time. They require a measure of attention at all times, too.

My gaming PC is in the living room, because the only way I can game at all is when I can also watch children. So, any gaming I do here is done around the rest of my family, so I'm also talking to my wife and kids all the time too. This does make Teamspeak awkward at times (tracking multiple conversations is a PITA while gaming). If a baby has fallen asleep, talking is right the hell out (because YOU DO NOT WAKE THE BABY.) Or if they're watching a movie, it's hard for me to hear people talking and god help them if I queue up my mic.

I also work shiftwork. 7am-7pm, 7pm-7am, rotating weekly, or 7am-3pm, 3pm-11pm, 11pm-7am rotating weekly. While the shifts change weekly, they don't often follow a set pattern. I work roughly half my weekends.

So, I can friend people, and get a drop, sometimes two, then I inevitably need to drop group for some random amount of time from a couple minutes to until next tuesday.

So, yeah, I can get some group drops in, but it's such a pain in the ass and I'm also as a result a bit of a pain in the ass for the group in question, that it's often easier to just play solo.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:05 AM

There's really no reason not to allow solo players to opt into the group queue, if they want to.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:09 AM

View PostRoland, on 03 August 2014 - 08:05 AM, said:

There's really no reason not to allow solo players to opt into the group queue, if they want to.


And at least you'll have people joining in the group queue by choice specifically because they want more organization and will work with you, as opposed to a lot of the small groups who don't want to be there and are just random rambo sorts playing together.

Also, those solo players aren't going to be trying to lead, or off doing their own thing - they'll find the biggest group and attach themselves to it. Because if you're not going to do that, you may as well just drop in the Solo queue and abuse the poor saps there for ridiculous numbers.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:12 AM

View PostWillard Phule, on 03 August 2014 - 05:55 AM, said:

Remember, since the matchmaker was re-written, the better you are....the more new players you're expected to carry.

That's PGI's answer to "new player content," apparently. Why bother to spend resources teaching new players how to actually play the game when you can put them into the shark tank and let the other people deal with them? As long as they give us a few bucks, we're happy. Right?


And why the dont make bad vs bad and good vs good players?
Start to hate it i am not realy good player but this happen more and more:
http://cloud-4.steam...DCE659DFBC72D0/
7 Players dont get over 200dmg in my team

Edited by Dhatman, 03 August 2014 - 08:12 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:12 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 03 August 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

I like dropping into solo queue when I want to feel like a god, just because so many players there are so... bad. Lacking situational awareness, accuracy, common sense, or the ability to walk and shoot at the same time. I also like going into solo to find the diamonds in the rough, or those with good attitudes, as, being solo queue, there is a good chance they have not been scooped up by a unit yet.

That said:

This was what the solo-queue players asked for, is it not? Not to be stuck dropping against groups? Not to be bullied by friendly groups just trying to organize the team into a semblance of tactical organization?

I know what I feel is technically wrong from a standpoint of being a good person, but, frak it. This community makes demands to PGI. They followed through in this one, and now solo queue players got what they wanted. For better or worse, you got what you wanted. I am content to let it soak in for a bit.

It is what was asked for. But having a checkbox, to drop solo only, or be open to be used in whatever queue was fastest, solo or team, would be kinda nice.





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