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#21 Chagatay

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:26 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 05 August 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

The medium class is really the 55 ton class.

Can't argue with that

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:30 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 05 August 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

The medium class is really the 55 ton class.



In MWO, medium class is 60 tons to 65 tons...

Everything under 60t and above 35t is only Assaults and Heavies bait...

#23 FupDup

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:30 PM

Shadow Hawk, Griffin, Stormcrow, *maybe* the Nova in niche circumstances. Those are your good mediums to choose from.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:33 PM

Mediums are R&R friendly ......

Oh wait....

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:37 PM

Play Cents and wait for your ELO to drop, lots of fun in the Underhive if you can avoid the LRMstorm.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:51 PM

The StormCrow is amazing. Pants on head, cartwheels in joy amazing. The SHAWK and Griff are also great, but they suffer from not-SrormCrow...itis?

Every other medium is either filling a niche or is a shadow of it's former (4SP) glory.

Edit: oresome grammer

Edited by Kiiyor, 05 August 2014 - 06:02 PM.


#27 Kaeb Odellas

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:55 PM

View PostOuttaAmmo NoWai, on 05 August 2014 - 04:33 PM, said:

The Ryoken *IS* the Stormcrow.

You new to Mechs or something?


What the heck is a Clanner doing calling it a Ryoken? :)

#28 Sephlock

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:59 PM

View PostFupDup, on 05 August 2014 - 05:30 PM, said:

Shadow Hawk, Griffin, Stormcrow, *maybe* the Nova in niche circumstances. Those are your good mediums to choose from.

I don't see the BlackJack on that list.. did the JJ nerf + the hill climbing nerf hurt it THAT MUCH?!

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:59 PM

View PostKiiyor, on 05 August 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

The StormCrow is amazing. Pants on head, cartwheels in joy amazing. The SHAWK and Griff are also great, but they suffer from not-SrormCrow...itis?

Every other mediums are all either niche or shadows of their former (4SP) glory.


Aryokenosis, I believe. Prefix "a-" meaning "not" and suffix "-osis" meaning condition of being <preceding term>.

The suffix "-itis" means inflamation of <preceding term>.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:59 PM

View PostSephlock, on 05 August 2014 - 05:57 PM, said:

I don;t see the BlackJack on that list.. did the JJ nerf + the hill climbing nerf hurt it THAT MUCH?!

It's always been a mediocre mech. Fairly slow for its size, not enough tonnage to use ballistics or even some energy weapons effectively, meh hitboxes, and it's not 55 tons (55 tons is the optimal weight for mediums in BT).

#31 Vassago Rain

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:02 PM

View PostSephlock, on 05 August 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

I don't see the BlackJack on that list.. did the JJ nerf + the hill climbing nerf hurt it THAT MUCH?!


The BJ was always bad.

#32 Sephlock

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:06 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 05 August 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:


The BJ was always bad.

You make me sad ;(.

#33 fat4eyes

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:12 PM

Mediums got a lot better since the srm fixes. A Griffin or a Shadowhawk boating SRMs + Artemis can kill any mech in 2 salvos from the back, or completely peel off armor from the front. The hard part is getting close enough to use them.

#34 Heeden

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

View PostSephlock, on 05 August 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

You make me sad ;(.


Vass feeds by draining the joy from players who don't conform to the current flavour-of-the-month-season-year robots.

#35 Cyborne Elemental

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:19 PM

The JJ nerf royally ****** over (surprise!?) mediums.
Thanks Paul. dip$#@!.

Mediums need their JJ's the way they were, 100% or they're just not worth it.

Then you take a mech like the Quickdraw, which is by all intents and purposes still a Medium, and it got hurt even more.

Edited by Mister D, 05 August 2014 - 06:22 PM.


#36 Bartholomew bartholomew

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:21 PM

GRIFFIN! GRIFFIN! GRIFFIN!

Yes you will see me on the field. I will be in a 3M.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:43 PM

View PostDuSucre, on 05 August 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Mediums are R&R friendly ......

Oh wait....

Be glad there is no R&R. If there was, people would say that it is perfectly fine for lights and mediums to suck because they were cheap. Heavy+ would be the 'real mechs'. People would say, "It is totally right and good that heavy mechs are outright better than mediums and lights because they are more expensive."

At least without R&R we can have a conversation about how medium mechs are faring in game, rather than just knowing they were meant as cheap Cbill grinders.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:53 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 05 August 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:


Aryokenosis, I believe. Prefix "a-" meaning "not" and suffix "-osis" meaning condition of being <preceding term>.

The suffix "-itis" means inflamation of <preceding term>.


I thank you kind sir, your Science has brought me joy!

I shall now proceed to rename every Not-Ryoken medium mech I own.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:56 PM

Here to help! :)

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:56 PM

View PostHeeden, on 05 August 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:


Vass feeds by draining the joy from players who don't conform to the current flavour-of-the-month-season-year robots.


This is a rare picture of me feeding on the only substance that can keep me young.

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