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August 8Th Weapon Balance Update And Patch - Feedback


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#441 Gallowglas

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:15 PM

Honestly, I'd prefer to see fewer changes all at once, but have them happen more frequently so that proper testing and evaluation can be done. By making so many changes together, you end up completely changing the dynamic of a weapon and risk a drastic overshoot of target metrics.

As far as my thoughts on the actual changes: I'll have to reserve judgment until I see them in play. I will say that it has been my personal experience that the C-ERLLs aren't so far out of whack as has been implied here. I do think they might have needed tweaks but - on paper at least - this seems rather severe. I think the ghost heat threshold of 2 coupled with the huge heat penalty increase seems like too much. That said, the changes to the C-ERPPC speed should help with the two meta builds that seemed the most skewed in gameplay.

Edited by Gallowglas, 07 August 2014 - 11:18 PM.


#442 Alik Kerensky

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:16 PM

View PostLordMaughan12, on 07 August 2014 - 11:14 PM, said:

THIS IS COMPLETE BS, i paid for my clan mechs, now i find out that due the lack of tactics and poor playing of inner shpere pilots(dont know if it was diffrent for you but thats what i saw during the test) my mechs are to be nerferd, dont forget who is supporting this game right now, its not the inner shpere pilots, its the pilots who bought clan mechs some paying 500$ for them.

They do not care... you spent your money already. They already got it...

Also, I find it funny that you think we freebirths don't spend money too... lol your funny. ;)

Edited by Alik Kerensky, 07 August 2014 - 11:20 PM.


#443 CAPTMAUGHAN

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:16 PM

View PostMS06, on 07 August 2014 - 11:04 PM, said:

Great changes. Thanks for this PGI.

And no, I'm not being sarcastic. CERLL was the obvious next choice after any PPC/gauss nerf, so both changes were needed.

your an idiot, the changes were not needed. and this is coming from someone who usually uses medlasers and srms

#444 Thavara

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:18 PM

Stock Timber Wolf Prime just got bent over. Who in their right mind thought this was a good idea?

#445 Wynteryth

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:18 PM

View PostCpt Leprechaun, on 07 August 2014 - 09:59 PM, said:

one bad balance after another it seems you guys really need to overhaul the entire system ala something like homeless bills suggestion. I used to have fun with this game but now. now I just watch the forums and read the patch notes till I see something that might interest me to come back.

So far ,about 3-4 months, I don't see me coming back anytime soon. There is so much wrong with the game its scary. How is this a launched title this game should still be classified as a beta hell even an alpha.

inspire me to come back PLEASE


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#446 Hippocrap

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:20 PM

Just letting you know that hese C-ERLL nerfs are the worst idea ever.

#447 CarnageINC

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:23 PM

Good one PGI...LOL :lol: You so got me! You swindled me out of a lot of money....multiple times! :wub: I guess I was a fool to believe in you from the get go. ;)

PGI, I will never spend one more penny on any games your company produces, ever again. This slap dash patch work you guys do is driving the game into the ground. Russ and Paul if you leave PGI, I will avoid your new company's products too. You guys have no clue on what your doing to this franchise, do you? :blink:

Edited by CarnageINC, 07 August 2014 - 11:24 PM.


#448 Hannibal Chow

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:23 PM

Stik a fork in me .....

#449 Texas Merc

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:24 PM

View PostLordMaughan12, on 07 August 2014 - 11:14 PM, said:

THIS IS COMPLETE BS, i paid for my clan mechs, now i find out that due the lack of tactics and poor playing of inner shpere pilots(dont know if it was diffrent for you but thats what i saw during the test) my mechs are to be nerferd, dont forget who is supporting this game right now, its not the inner shpere pilots, its the pilots who bought clan mechs some paying 500$ for them.

LOL Did you not know who you were dealing with here? This is PGI bro, grow a pair and deal with it.

#450 Foster Bondroff

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:26 PM

With this post and changes you moved from not listing to the community to actively trolling the community....

Both ideas are bad, but the CERLL changes announced set a new scale at it...easily toping both very bad suggestions you made earlier to the PPC/Gauss combo.

#451 Evengar Dragonis

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:26 PM

CERLLs...
One word.

FACEPALM.

#452 Texas Merc

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:29 PM

quit crying guys this is a needed fix

paul knows what he is doing

#453 pwnface

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:30 PM

This would have been a clutch april fool's joke but its in August ;)

#454 Steel Scout

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:30 PM

Absolutely do not agree with incurring ghost heat at 2 weapons. That is absolutely not in the right spirit of things. No other weapon in the game has ghost heat at firing two of them. That really lowers their effectiveness you will have to chain fire them all the time and with the additional beam time means you will have to be exposed for quite some time to not incur extra heat. Definitely do not concur with that change. All the other changes I will hold judgement on until I see them in action, even though I do think that the addition beam duration is a bit much as well but would take that over the ghost heat penalty.

#455 Sudden

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:31 PM

why don't you unnerfe some IS weapons for f..... sakes leave the clans alone they are hot as it is. the IS meduin pulse could do with other range extender

#456 Hannibal Chow

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:33 PM

I'm done with this game untill we get competant designers, or when pgi loose the franchise to some folk who understand what the word "balance" actually means.

If pgi can't even use a dictionary .......

#457 meteorol

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:33 PM

Who ever thought they would make CLPL somewhat viable by nerfing CERLL so hard they are acutally worse than CLPL? ;)

Enjoy your CERML while you still can guys, they are next.

Edited by meteorol, 07 August 2014 - 11:34 PM.


#458 Deathlike

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:33 PM

View PostVeneroso, on 07 August 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...601757569372161

Ok. Just a test. Relax and postpone the angry mob till next week.


Is it just possible that Russ is doing the balancing and the whole vision thing for this game?

Every single time there's such a ragey reaction, Russ needs to "shut off his brain"... who doesn't want to shut off the noise when you created the music?

This is classic PGI and guys who have denied it before... well.. it's back!

#459 StevieRayVaughan

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:37 PM

I'd also ask for a refund, but lately refunds come with an account permaban....guess they were prepared for this inevitability

#460 Texas Merc

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:37 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 07 August 2014 - 11:33 PM, said:


Is it just possible that Russ is doing the balancing and the whole vision thing for this game?

Every single time there's such a ragey reaction, Russ needs to "shut off his brain"... who doesn't want to shut off the noise when you created the music?

This is classic PGI and guys who have denied it before... well.. it's back!






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