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[Arthinas]

Present-day society is wholly based on the exploitation of the vast masses of the working class by a tiny minority of the population, the class of the nobles. It is a slave society, since the “free” workers, who all their life work for the nobles, are “entitled” only to such means of subsistence as are essential for the maintenance of slaves who produce profit, for the safeguarding and perpetuation of feudal slavery.

[wanderer]

Vandal, on 22 June 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

I say it is not in our interest to be in the business of rewriting history. The tyrant rewrites history, the tyrant suppresses the journalist and the gossiper and the citizen. Revolution must be founded on the truth and only the truth, it is what gives the revolution power. We might strike the name of Liao from history, but the idea of the Liao would always remain in the hearts of the people. The revolutionary might preach the objective truth, but the citizen is not impervious to the touch of nostalgia, the longing for the glory days when the king was not so much a tyrant or bully or coward. I say let the name of Liao work for us, use the Liao as a tool to instill pride in the citizen on the street. 'You are a man now! You are Liao! Remember the great Liao's of history and know you can succeed!' A name without a tyrant behind it is just an idea.

This is the heart of Xin Sheng, which is a reawakening of the heart of the citizens of the Confederation.

I will reveal a secret here, as the time is right and all hearts are true.

The Mittani is the user name of the esteemed heir to the Celestial Throne, Sun Tzu.

To follow the Mittani is to follow the future of the Confederation. Romano Liao is the rightful ruler of the Confederation, but Sun Tzu, who is the Mittani will sit upon that throne when the time comes, insuring a righteous new generation to rule. Do not rebel against she who rules, but know that in following the Mittani, you embrace the Xin Sheng- the new birth - that rolls in an unstoppable tide from him, through the Great Citizens, across the Inner Sphere. Loyalty and revolution are as one, when we act to purge the counter-revolutionary, the corrupt who use the truth as a veil to hide their decadent activities.

Loyalty to Romano Liao! Loyalty to the heir to the Celestial Throne, the Mittani! Glory to the Capellan Confederation and the true First Lord!

[Merovek Hetzau]

wanderer, on 22 June 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

This is the heart of Xin Sheng, which is a reawakening of the heart of the citizens of the Confederation.

I will reveal a secret here, as the time is right and all hearts are true.

The Mittani is the user name of the esteemed heir to the Celestial Throne, Sun Tzu.

To follow the Mittani is to follow the future of the Confederation. Romano Liao is the rightful ruler of the Confederation, but Sun Tzu, who is the Mittani will sit upon that throne when the time comes, insuring a righteous new generation to rule. Do not rebel against she who rules, but know that in following the Mittani, you embrace the Xin Sheng- the new birth - that rolls in an unstoppable tide from him, through the Great Citizens, across the Inner Sphere. Loyalty and revolution are as one, when we act to purge the counter-revolutionary, the corrupt who use the truth as a veil to hide their decadent activities.

Loyalty to Romano Liao! Loyalty to the heir to the Celestial Throne, the Mittani! Glory to the Capellan Confederation and the true First Lord!

No. The Mittani is some foolish pretender who can expect to be followed only by the same traitors who continue to gawk shout his name like foolish and backward religious zealots. He is not now, nor shall he EVER be our leader, not if any true sons of Capella have anything to say about it. I for one know who our leader is and I will not have his name shamed by these profligates.

Edited by Merovek Hetzau, 22 June 2012 - 10:11 AM.

[Anders]

To the OP Vandal and Gentlemen of this thread.

If we could first know where we are, and whither we are tending, we could then better judge what to do, and how to do it. We are now far into the fifth year, since a policy was initiated, with the avowed object, and confident promise, of putting an end to Liao agitation. Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only, not ceased, but has constantly augmented. In my opinion, it will not cease, until a crisis shall have been reached, and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half Liao and half Lowtax. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved -- I do not expect the house to fall -- but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other.

Either the opponents of the Word of Lowtax, will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all of the Inner Sphere, old as well as new -- Lowtaxians as well as Liaoists.

Have we no tendency to the latter condition?

Let any one who doubts, carefully contemplate that now almost complete legal combination -- piece of machinery so to speak -- compounded of the Korvan doctrine, and the Sarna Mandate. Let him consider not only what work the machinery is adapted to do, and how well adapted; but also, let him study the history of its construction, and trace, if he can, or rather fail, if he can, to trace the evidence of design and concert of action, among its chief architects, from the beginning.
But, so far, The Prefectorate only, had acted; and an indorsement by the people, real or apparent, was indispensable, to save the point already gained, and give chance for more.

This necessity had not been overlooked; but had been provided for, as well as might be, in the notable argument of "squawking sovereignty," otherwise called "sacred right of self government," which latter phrase, though expressive of the only rightful basis of any government, was so perverted in this attempted use of it as to amount to just this: That if any one man, choose to enslave another, no third man shall be allowed to object.

That argument was incorporated into the Korvan bill itself, in the language which follows: "It being the true intent and meaning of this act not to legislate anti-squawking into any House or Clan not to exclude it therefrom; but to leave the people thereof perfectly free to form and regulate their domestic institutions in their own way, subject only to the ability to peck out the eyes of their enemies."

Then opened the roar of loose declamation in favor of "Squawking Sovereignty," and "Sacred right of self-government."

"But," said opposition members, "let us be more specific -- let us amend the bill so as to expressly declare that the people of the territory may exclude anti-squawking measures."
"Not we," said the friends of the measure; and down they voted the amendment.

Our cause, then, must be intrusted to, and conducted by, its own undoubted friends-those whose hands are free, whose hearts are in the work-who do care for the result. Two years ago the Laioists of this house mustered over thirteen hundred thousand strong. We did this under the single impulse of resistance to a common danger, with every external circumstance against us. Of strange, discordant, and even hostile elements, we gathered from the four winds, and formed and fought the battle through, under the constant hot fire of a disciplined, proud, and pampered enemy. Did we brave all them to falter now?-now, when that same enemy is wavering, dissevered, and belligerent? The result is not doubtful. We shall not fail-if we stand firm, we shall not fail. Wise counsels may accelerate, or mistakes delay it, but, sooner or later, the victory is sure to come.

[wanderer]

Merovek Hetzau, on 22 June 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

No. The Mittani is some foolish pretender who can expect to be followed only by the same traitors who continue to gawk shout his name like foolish and backward religious zealots. He is not now, nor shall he EVER be our leader, not if any true sons of Capella have anything to say about it. I for one know who our leader is and I will not have his name shamed by these profligates.

Followers of Tormano Liao's filthy Davionist "Free Capella" movement are precisely the counter-revolutionary elements that require an immediate demise. May they suffer the torture of a thousand sharp beaks.

[Merovek Hetzau]

wanderer, on 22 June 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

Followers of Tormano Liao's filthy Davionist "Free Capella" movement are precisely the counter-revolutionary elements that require an immediate demise. May they suffer the torture of a thousand sharp beaks.

Except the Mittani is not our Beloved Sun Tzu. He is an imposter.

[wanderer]

Anders, on 22 June 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

To the OP Vandal and Gentlemen of this thread.

[Two Beans]

I have a signed statement from Romano Liao recognizing The Mittani as the one true Chancellor and Grand Poohbah of the Cappellan Confederation. Its right here. *points to crotch*

[Kamille]

Two Beans, on 22 June 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

I have a signed statement from Romano Liao recognizing The Mittani as the one true Chancellor and Grand Poohbah of the Cappellan Confederation. Its right here. *points to crotch*

Truly an auspicious day for the people!

[wanderer]

Two Beans, on 22 June 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

I have a signed statement from Romano Liao recognizing The Mittani as the one true Chancellor and Grand Poohbah of the Cappellan Confederation. Its right here. *points to crotch*

That ***** who does the "Chancellor's Happy Ending" on Tikonov is not Her Celestial Radiance, even if she does a damn fine impression.

[JackDeez]

Merovek Hetzau, on 22 June 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

Except the Mittani is not our Beloved Sun Tzu. He is an imposter.

And yet brother you fail to grasp the realities surrounding you...

IF Chancellor Mittani is an imposter why does he accomplish, with barely any effort, that which the so called "nobles" have not for generations ?

Hath you not looked around ?
Our ranks are swollen, infused with an influx of skilled warriors and noble tetatae alike. Our armies stand more then double their size and capacity with which to lay low our enemies before us. DO NOT DOUBT, that without these brave and selfless warriors, our nation would not survive the coming storms of war.

Forget not the House of Davion... Long have they sought to subgugate our people and take for themselves that which belongs to Cappella

It is here I swear my fealty to Chancellor Mittani and House Lowtax and pledge my lifes blood to assuring their vision of the Cappellan Confed comes to pass for the glory of the people

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

******* Ken, on 21 June 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Everyone is free to write and say whatever he likes, without any restrictions. But every voluntary association (including the party) is also free to expel members who use the name of the party to advocate anti-party views. Freedom of speech and the press must be complete. But then freedom of association must be complete too. I am bound to accord you, in the name of free speech, the full right to shout, lie and write to your heart’s content. But you are bound to grant me, in the name of freedom of association, the right to enter into, or withdraw from, association with people advocating this or that view. The party is a voluntary association, which would inevitably break up, first ideologically and then physically, if it did not cleanse itself of people advocating anti-party views.

Except if you say anti Goon stuff we will grief you in the ga---

ah tricky. I get it. Pretend youre cool with them saying anything so you can make a list

[Serevn]

I was ok with The Mittani trying to take charge... but this revolution is just to far... count me among the firing squad thats going to shoot you down.

[Scabrous]

A spectre is haunting the Inner Sphere - The spectre of Lowtax.

[Fyad]

Serevn, on 22 June 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

I was ok with The Mittani trying to take charge... but this revolution is just to far... count me among the firing squad thats going to shoot you down.

Whoever sides with the revolutionary people is a revolutionary. Whoever sides with imperialism, feudalism and bureaucrat-capitalism is a counter-revolutionary. Whomever sides with the revolutionary people in words only but acts otherwise is a revolutionary in speech. Whoever sides with the revolutionary people in deed as well as in word is a revolutionary in the full sense.

[Kamille]

Speak to the counter-revolutionary with words of bullets! and the sharp wit of bayonets! The Mittani serves the people through the birds as the people serve the Mittani through their tenbux. May the Capellan Confederation shine forever, a glorious beacon of the proletariat! Forever guarded by the agents of Lowtax!

[Daidachi]

To be honest, if anything the involvement of the SA folks has made the prelude to the game much more interesting for me.

They have taken what was a small group which had infrequent updates, and given it vibrancy and colour.

Now, they may or may not be what you desire for the game (I know that I don't really care - if you don't play like a daft ****, no one will give a hoot), but regardless they have made the game, without once stepping foot on the battlefield more entertaining and involving for others.

[Serevn]

Fyad, on 22 June 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

Whoever sides with the revolutionary people is a revolutionary. Whoever sides with imperialism, feudalism and bureaucrat-capitalism is a counter-revolutionary. Whomever sides with the revolutionary people in words only but acts otherwise is a revolutionary in speech. Whoever sides with the revolutionary people in deed as well as in word is a revolutionary in the full sense.

I'm a reformist not a revolutionary.

[Amberlance]

Serevn, on 23 June 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

I'm a reformist not a revolutionary.

The billions of men and women toiling at the whip of the other houses will not realise their destiny through mealy-mouthed reforms, comrade. The paper tigers proclaiming themselves lords over men wallow decadently in their own contradictions.The enemy will not perish of himself. Neither will the reactionaries nor the aggressive forces of imperialism step down from the stage of history of their own accord. From this, one must conclude to label oneself a reformist is to accede, to bend the knee, to those who would oppress us.

[goblin]

Even I, a mercenary, hear the clarion call of the better world ahead promised by the Xin-Sheng; reintroduction of the true Marxist State. Christ, Marx, Mittani and Wei led us to This Perfect Day. I suppose we have some brother-haters to reeducate before that quite happens, though.