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[Koniving]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 August 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dium_vindicator

So.... Vindi Hero looks...underwhelming for IRL money, but all 4 variants are up for evaluation and building.

Vindicator 1R and 1X will be the metas of the Vindicators.
Just saying it now.

[MAXrobo]

there is another thread that showed a picture. it looks too be about as tall as a blackjack, so its much smaller than the 50-55 tonners.

And yes, it has shades.

[Bromineberry]

This will be mine in a few weeks.

235 STD
2XER-LL
3xML
1 JJ
9 Internal + 4 External HS

Edited by Bromineberry, 19 August 2014 - 11:11 AM.

[Hagoromo Gitsune]

Alistair Winter, on 19 August 2014 - 11:09 AM, said:

The LPL build is interesting, but surely the Blackjack is a much superior sniper / poptart than the Vindicator? Too early to tell, I guess. But on paper, I'd prefer sniper weapons on the high mounts of the Black Jack, rather than lowslung arms on a 45 ton mech.

Check out these...

VND-1LBX

or

VND-1GSX

...both for range fight

[Carrioncrows]

checking hitboxes now.

[Alistair Winter]

Hagoromo Gitsune, on 19 August 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Check out these...

VND-1LBX

or

VND-1GSX

...both for range fight

LBX for a range fight? And the second build isn't valid, only 9 heat sinks. But I will be experimenting with gauss on this thing, for sure.

[Bishop Steiner]

Alistair Winter, on 19 August 2014 - 11:06 AM, said:

Unless it's considerably smaller than the Treb, I'm not sure I see the point.

The Treb would be faster, have more armour, have all lasers mounted on the arms. Just seems superior overall.

because the Treb is a barndoor?

[_NARCoMAN_]

*shrug* Ok, It's here.

[General Taskeen]

4 New Vindicators confirmed for Stock Days.

[BourbonFaucet]

Missile Support

Tried to turn the hero into some kind of missile support here...

[Bishop Steiner]

Asheron Realaidain, on 19 August 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

*shrug* Ok, It's here.

Cool. Such enthusiasm was definitely worth all of our time for you to post

[Deathlike]

Koniving, on 19 August 2014 - 11:09 AM, said:

Vindicator 1R and 1X will be the metas of the Vindicators.
Just saying it now.

I highly doubt the 1X. I question the 1R. The 1AA is the one that most interests me.

[Hagoromo Gitsune]

Bromineberry, on 19 August 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

This will be mine in a few weeks.

235 STD
2XER-LL
3xML
1 JJ
9 Internal + 4 External HS

VND-2R

...same armament with better cooling and XL235 + 3JJ's.

Edited by Hagoromo Gitsune, 19 August 2014 - 11:20 AM.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 August 2014 - 11:08 AM, said:

Well, their arms should guard the STs some, which should be good XL news. But since toughness was supposed to be their hallmark, I do hope they have good hitboxes.

MAXrobo, on 19 August 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

Something interesting to note is that it says the 1R and 1X have +5% armor strength (full body) quirks. Seems like a pretty minor buff. But I guess its something.

Humanoid shape, low arms, jumpjets, ~100kph speed, armor bonus, and a closed missile door. It at least sounds resilient for a 45 ton mech.

[Koniving]

Deathlike, on 19 August 2014 - 11:17 AM, said:

I highly doubt the 1X. I question the 1R. The 1AA is the one that most interests me.

AC/20 Blackjack ring a bell? AC/10 Vindicator, Gauss Rifle Vindicator. AC/10 + PPC Vindicator.

The 1AA has the fewest hardpoints. Though the second AMS is kinda nice...honestly though twin AMS mechs have been pretty worthless against LRM torrents, though.
The 1R has the same hardpoints + 1 more energy (one AMS, but honestly as I said twin AMS hasn't proven very worthwhile lately).

[JudgeDeathCZ]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...72140434c830575
I had to

[Alistair Winter]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 August 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

because the Treb is a barndoor?

Well, I did say "unless it's considerably smaller", but anyway. Not exactly hard to hit such a slow moving mech. Same problem as Clan light mechs. Their small size doesn't make up for their lack of speed.

[Deathlike]

Koniving, on 19 August 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

AC/20 Blackjack ring a bell? AC/10 Vindicator, Gauss Rifle Vindicator. AC/10 + PPC Vindicator.

You can't put an AC20 on the Vindicator. Part of it (1X) competes with the BJ-1 (the BJ-1 is still solid despite all the changes). The other part (1R) competes with the BJ-3.

In essence, it doesn't really seem competitive in that sense.

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The 1AA has the fewest hardpoints. Though the second AMS is kinda nice...honestly though twin AMS mechs have been pretty worthless against LRM torrents, though.
The 1R has the same hardpoints + 1 more energy (one AMS, but honestly as I said twin AMS hasn't proven very worthwhile lately).

The 1AA is the speed demon. While it's not hardpoint filled like the BJ-1X, you can use the speed for your own benefit. I've run the Wolverine-6K before... you can actually make something out of this... plus you have JJs to go with it. It depends how big the arms are however (anything resembling the Centurion or Trebuchet is bad for business).

[RF Greywolf]

This is what I've been messing with as a possible brawly build but still playing around with builds...

Edited by RF Greywolf, 19 August 2014 - 11:30 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Alistair Winter, on 19 August 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

LBX for a range fight? And the second build isn't valid, only 9 heat sinks. But I will be experimenting with gauss on this thing, for sure.

the model and paint job are teh secks tho