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[Joseph Mallan]

Deathlike, on 30 August 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

Might I interest you in some... supplements?

Nope!

Mudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 01:11 PM, said:

My issue with the women my age is they want to own you or take care of you. I'm too independent so it gets on my nerves.

Marriage is cool but if i found a good women she would probably want to kill me in time.

That is the definition of a good marriage Mud! My wife tries every night and falls asleep every night with a smile on her face!

[Mudhutwarrior]

Good for you Joe. Question? are you dropping solo? Haven't seen you in quite a while.

[Roland]

Joseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

Since when do the guys breaking the rules/suggestions care about Laughing stock? They are winning matches in a team oriented game. You sound like you are still in your teens Roland. Teasing people doesn't amount to beans to grown ups.

Reputation doesn't mean anything to adults?
I guess I hang out with different adults than you.

[Joseph Mallan]

Yeas and No.
I have dropped solo as often as my work schedule will allow or I am willing to suffer. 70 hour work weeks take a lot out of you at 48 years old. And Yes most often I drop solo cause the Law is ravaging Star Trek and a few other games right now.

I have dropped 3-4 times with the guys and even when losing it is more fun than playing(winning) solo.

Roland, on 30 August 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

Reputation doesn't mean anything to adults?
I guess I hang out with different adults than you.

Reputation in a video game? I guess you do!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 30 August 2014 - 07:18 PM.

[Sandpit]

Mudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 01:13 AM, said:

It's cheating. No two ways about it. Its a calculated means to take advantage of those dropping solo without benefit of comms.
Just the fact you are trying so hard to cover for it says a lot with your Marik Mondays.

Your problem is you think people are stupid and easily swayed by repetition. For you its working in the opposite and your reputation outside the exploit ranks is shrinking.

Roflmao
So the fact that pgi had said otherwise is irrelevant because you said so righy?

[Sandpit]

Joseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

i have only been satisfying one woman for the last 26 years...

Citation needed

[Joseph Mallan]

Sandpit, on 30 August 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

Citation needed

Here is the Citation:

Quote

i have only been satisfying one woman for the last 26 years... Still teasing is just juvenile. And likely against the CoC.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 30 August 2014 - 04:45 PM.

[Sandpit]

Joseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 04:45 PM, said:

Here is the Citation:

So your evidence is yhe same presented for sync drops

[Joseph Mallan]

Sandpit, on 30 August 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

So your evidence is yhe same presented for sync drops

Of course it is!

[Roland]

I dunno, that picture of the 7 Seraphim guys in the same game was pretty good evidence they were sync dropping.

[Sandpit]

Roland, on 30 August 2014 - 04:58 PM, said:

I dunno, that picture of the 7 Seraphim guys in the same game was pretty good evidence they were sync dropping.

Even still. Paul specifically stated that it's not illegal

[Joseph Mallan]

Sandpit, on 30 August 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:

Even still. Paul specifically stated that it's not illegal

With that being said and NOT disputed. Isn't it somewhat... Immoral to do?

[Roland]

Sandpit, on 30 August 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:

Even still. Paul specifically stated that it's not illegal

No, I don't think he did.
He made a vague statement about it years ago, prior to the introduction of the solo queue.

The fact that they have a solo queue kind of implies that you aren't supposed to sync drop, since they'd just allow groups to drop in the solo queue if they intended them to do so.

Joseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

With that being said and NOT disputed. Isn't it somewhat... Immoral to do?

Yes, you'd think so.

[Sandpit]

Joseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

With that being said and NOT disputed. Isn't it somewhat... Immoral to do?

Morality doesn't define illegal

[Joseph Mallan]

Roland, on 30 August 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

No, I don't think he did.
He made a vague statement about it years ago, prior to the introduction of the solo queue.

The fact that they have a solo queue kind of implies that you aren't supposed to sync drop, since they'd just allow groups to drop in the solo queue if they intended them to do so.


Yes, you'd think so.

have you ever heard the axium, "Better to not give orders you know will not be followed."

I do not see the logic of trying to stop teams in a team game. Nor do I see a reason to complain about it in a Demo which is what we have here.

Sandpit, on 30 August 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

Morality doesn't define illegal

But it does influence it.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 30 August 2014 - 05:10 PM.

[Sandpit]

Roland, on 30 August 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

No, I don't think he did.
He made a vague statement about it years ago, prior to the introduction of the solo queue.

The fact that they have a solo queue kind of implies that you aren't supposed to sync drop, since they'd just allow groups to drop in the solo queue if they intended them to do so.


Yes, you'd think so.

That's the last ruling on it. Until a new ruling is made it's not illegal.
If PGI changes its view on it then follow that rule. Until they do that it's not illegal. That's really all there is to it.

Now if those condemning sync dropping want to make their case for why it SHOULD be illegal go for it but all the "they're evil" "it's cheating" etc. are false statements at the moment.

[Hoax415]

Joseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

With that being said and NOT disputed. Isn't it somewhat... Immoral to do?

I asked these questions in the thread that vanished that had the SS of I believe 12 Seraphim pilots split 5vs7.
-Do you know how many people they were dropping with? Could be they had too many to fit in one group and this was a fair way for them all to RNG a chance to play together.
-What is the problem? The game ended close (it was better than 5 kills for losing team) the team with more Seraphim lost) so their presence did not destroy the quality of the match.
-Does anyone think they were throwing the match to give one group wins? I haven't heard that allegation. I'm sure 100% of people agree if you are intentionally sabotaging your team that is bs. But that wasn't happening here.
-Does anyone think that they were worse teammates or trying less hard than normal randomly assigned solo pug players would? Why do we think that?

I play a lot of solo and I've maybe seen 5 sync drops and none with groups as big and noticeable as that screenshot so they not have even been sync drops. I've never felt like people were throwing the match. In fact sync droppers are less likely to be afk or wander off by themselves or run their light suicide into the enemy team at minute 1 or 2 I'd imagine.

So please explain. If they are trying to win, even against themselves and being good teammates. And MM is only putting them in your game because they are of your elo. What exactly is the 30 pages of problem here?

The only legit issue I can think of is group queue players being mad that people aren't in their queue to fight that might be otherwise. If I'm playing solo by definition I don't care who my teammates or enemies are. I'm focused on myself and trying to get wins. Why would I be so mad if people sync drop? I'm not seeing it.

They cannot trick MM into putting them all on one team and they cannot trick MM into putting them at an elo they shouldn't be at. So where is all the fuss.

Edited by Hoax415, 30 August 2014 - 05:19 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Hoax415, on 30 August 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

So please explain. If they are trying to win, even against themselves and being good teammates. And MM is only putting them in your game because they are of your elo. What exactly is the 30 pages of problem here?

If you are asking me in earnest, my answer is 30 pages of whining. I have supported Teams since before I was even considered for one. We should always have to be worried about facing better teams than ourselves. That Pushes good players to get better and bad players to whine in abundance!

[Roland]

Joseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 05:35 PM, said:

If you are asking me in earnest, my answer is 30 pages of whining. I have supported Teams since before I was even considered for one. We should always have to be worried about facing better teams than ourselves. That Pushes good players to get better and bad players to whine in abundance!

I've always supported team play as well... I lobbied to no end to allow teams of any size to play.

But I won't support teams who specifically are afraid to fight OTHER teams, and instead just want to beat up on solo players. That's cowardly trash, and not worth your support.

[Joseph Mallan]

I don't support them I don't stand against them either. I just shoot at them and try to kill em!