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[BLOOD WOLF]

Sandpit, on 26 August 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

you can't be a white knight and be objective. you can't be a black knight and be objective. If you're objective you're neither.


unit affiliation is not CW. It's unit affiliation. It's a piece that's needed to implement CW but it is NOT CW.

That's why I said ACT. We all play our parts. And yes I can be objective and be a white knight, Objective doesn't mean neutral.
As for association is its first phase of CW. it is CW wheither you accept that or not. Otherwise CW is as much of the Units and players that make and participate in it.

Sandpit, on 26 August 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

big feature?

this is a rudimentary common feature that just about every single MMO out there has implemented before launch

So now you are going to downplay it?. Now that it's coming all of a sudden its not worth much?

Fair enough, all relative to the player I suppose. I still have have good hopes.

I have to amend that one, CW association is in Fact CW. Even if it is not the planetary assaults does not mean the piece is any less important to the puzzle.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 26 August 2014 - 04:35 PM.

[Sandpit]

BLOOD WOLF, on 26 August 2014 - 04:23 PM, said:

Objective doesn't mean neutral.
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yes, yes it does...
not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
https://www.google.c...F-8&q=objective

BLOOD WOLF, on 26 August 2014 - 04:23 PM, said:

So now you are going to downplay it?. Now that it's coming all of a sudden its not worth much?

I'm not downplaying anything. Unit Affiliation is Unit Affiliation, NOT CW. It's a piece that's needed to implement CW. If it WERE CW, it would be called CW, not Unit affiliation

[BLOOD WOLF]

Sandpit, on 26 August 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

yes, yes it does...
not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
https://www.google.c...F-8&q=objective


I'm not downplaying anything. Unit Affiliation is Unit Affiliation, NOT CW. It's a piece that's needed to implement CW. If it WERE CW, it would be called CW, not Unit affiliation

that was strange. Objectivity, does go hand in hand with neutrality;However we only take a piece of what we learn and apply it to the common knowledge.

Association is the first phase of CW. Whether you accept that or not is irrelevant. It is what it is and nothing will change that. It is still a piece of sort, not completing the puzzle. However a piece of CW is still CW.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 26 August 2014 - 04:49 PM.

[Willard Phule]

Sandpit, on 26 August 2014 - 02:28 PM, said:

at least it's progress. No one should be surprised that this is what the patch was. It was well-known and announced that this patch would just be unit building IE guilds that every other multiplayer game has at launch


again, at least it's progress of some kind

Just do pushups. I'll tell you when you're tired.

I'm happy that unit creation finally happened...Phule's Company officially exists.

Other than that...dude, I've come to expect the worst from those Canuks. So, at least from where I sit (in the most screwed up Elo bracket of the solo queue), it's business as usual.

I'm hoping they'll eventually allow us to transfer mechs and cbills to other members of our units. I might actually be able to coax my friends to start playing again if I can give them some of the crap I've accumulated.

[Impyrium]

Okay, you guys complaining about the visual side of it.

By the looks of it, the map isn't just an 'image'. That's obvious, you can zoom into the map and it's clearly not an image file. Considering its appearance of the map borders, I'd say it's already being design to change. That is, the borders changing dynamically for actual CW. So it might be further along than you think.

The background, on the other hand, looks like it got downsized to 256x256 or something crazy like that. THAT, I'd say, looks bad, and probably will be better done in the future. No, you can't do better in paint. I doubt you can even do better in PS. I'm willing to bet, however, that it has something to do with performance, since my PC barely gets past 25fps in the faction tab.

Edited by AUSwarrior24, 26 August 2014 - 04:49 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Who knows what they can actually do with it, Right now we are getting bare bones for the sake of completion i would guess. When things have time to be added, they will be in due time.

[Sandpit]

AUSwarrior24, on 26 August 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

Okay, you guys complaining about the visual side of it.

By the looks of it, the map isn't just an 'image'. That's obvious, you can zoom into the map and it's clearly not an image file. Considering its appearance of the map borders, I'd say it's already being design to change. That is, the borders changing dynamically for actual CW. So it might be further along than you think.

The background, on the other hand, looks like it got downsized to 256x256 or something crazy like that. THAT, I'd say, looks bad, and probably will be better done in the future. No, you can't do better in paint. I doubt you can even do better in PS. I'm willing to bet, however, that it has something to do with performance, since my PC barely gets past 25fps in the faction tab.

The map gives me hope, there's a LOT of planets on it, but it all depends on execution and implementation

BLOOD WOLF, on 26 August 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

that was strange. Objectivity, does go hand in hand with neutrality;However we only take a piece of what we learn and apply it to the common knowledge.

Association is the first phase of CW. Whether you accept that or not is irrelevant. It is what it is and nothing will change that. It is still a piece of sort, not completing the puzzle. However a piece of CW is still CW.

No, a piece of a puzzle is NOT the puzzle

Objectivity is NOT letting personal bias affect the interpretation or decision.

[Budor]

Sandpit, on 26 August 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

The map gives me hope, there's a LOT of planets on it, but it all depends on execution and implementation

So many river city nights

Edited by Budor, 26 August 2014 - 04:54 PM.

[Mystere]

Sandpit, on 26 August 2014 - 02:57 PM, said:

or maybe because Blizzard didn't take millions of dollars from customers based on deadlines and promises that, 3 years later, still aren't implemented.

Delays = days, weeks, even months, NOT 3 years

Diablo 3 took how long to make?

[BLOOD WOLF]

Sandpit, on 26 August 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

No, a piece of a puzzle is NOT the puzzle

Objectivity is NOT letting personal bias affect the interpretation or decision.

So if i take a piece of cake from the whole of a cake is it not cake? Sounds to me you letting your bias affect your view. This is in essence is community warfare. Though mostly the buildup. In a matter of months we will have the other half.

Think of it in a reversed role. What if they release the Warefare aspect without the association? what then. Will you be okay with it then. Just because they made what you wanted most. Recipe for disaster.

Buildings need to be Built on Foundations. we are only at the beginning of the long rope that is CW,

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 26 August 2014 - 05:01 PM.

[Mystere]

Nicolai Kabrinsky, on 26 August 2014 - 03:06 PM, said:

I'm no more inclined to show you proof that most players wanted CW, than I am inclined to show you proof that gravity exists. The truth is out there, bro. Look at old posts.

But you gave a 1000:1 figure. Or did you just pull that from your behind?

[BLOOD WOLF]

Mystere, on 26 August 2014 - 05:01 PM, said:

But you gave a 1000:1 figure. Or did you just pull that from your behind?

Just go forum digging, and you will find it. you have to be playing some game if you do not think the only thing a lot of players wanted was CW. I mean i only had to hear about it every other post.

[Lord Banshee]

Willard Phule, on 26 August 2014 - 04:42 PM, said:

I'm happy that unit creation finally happened...Phule's Company officially exists.

It's neat that yours does. Ours doesn't. One of regulars allegedly was able to create the Merc Unit before the person PGI thought would do it, then the Merc Unit vaporized, along with the ability of anyone to create it, after the hotfix.

The fact I'm treated to a cute starry night without tempura-paint IS faction colors is not surprising either.

The Klown Kar of Keystone Kops that is PGI never fails to amaze.

"I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused..."
--Elvis Costello

[BLOOD WOLF]

Lord Banshee, on 26 August 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

It's neat that yours does. Ours doesn't. One of regulars allegedly was able to create the Merc Unit before the person PGI thought would do it, then the Merc Unit vaporized, along with the ability of anyone to create it, after the hotfix.

The fact I'm treated to a cute starry night without tempura-paint IS faction colors is not surprising either.

The Klown Kar of Keystone Kops that is PGI never fails to amaze.

"I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused..."
--Elvis Costello

I heard their were people grabbing names just for the sake of messing them up, or something like that.

[Mystere]

BLOOD WOLF, on 26 August 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

Just go forum digging, and you will find it. you have to be playing some game if you do not think the only thing a lot of players wanted was CW. I mean i only had to hear about it every other post.

You missed the point. He gave a 1000:1 figure. You don't just throw around numbers and expect it to be taken as gospel by everybody.

And, FYI, I too am waiting for CW.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Mystere, on 26 August 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

You missed the point. He gave a 1000:1 figure. You don't just throw around numbers and expect it to be taken as gospel by everybody.

And, FYI, I too am waiting for CW.

funny, becuase CW arrived Today. Go into the plan and you will see that community warefare is at 75%. Meaning that CW was broken into parts and not the whole package. So the correct words are, I am waiting for CW to become complete

I dont take it as the gospel but From what i have read and heard over the years. Yea i will say that much, and then you had the NO CLANS BEFORE CW. that was a good laugh.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 26 August 2014 - 05:14 PM.

[anthony nevers]

Is there a point to the 'Inner Sphere Home' Map?

[BLOOD WOLF]

anthony nevers, on 26 August 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

Is there a point to the 'Inner Sphere Home' Map?

your joking right Quiaff?

2 post, I guess you have been away for a while.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 26 August 2014 - 05:19 PM.

[EgoSlayer]

Raistlic, on 26 August 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

No, because ppl cried for clans so loud that they had to do that in first place. And then ocassionally ppl cried for new maps. And they cried for balance. Basically ppl cried. But you know, you just cant have all at once.

Um no. It should be:

Raistlic, on 26 August 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

No, because IGP cried for clans revenue so loud that they had to do the Clans first.

FTFY.

People have been "crying" for CW since closed beta. Before Clans, before maps. It was one of the cornerstones of the game stipulated in closed beta. One of the excuses was always there are no Clans, but there were still IS skirmishes going on before the Clan invasion that could have been the initial CW implementation.

Edited by EgoSlayer, 26 August 2014 - 05:35 PM.

[Biggest Salami]

AUSwarrior24, on 26 August 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

Okay, you guys complaining about the visual side of it.

By the looks of it, the map isn't just an 'image'. That's obvious, you can zoom into the map and it's clearly not an image file. Considering its appearance of the map borders, I'd say it's already being design to change. That is, the borders changing dynamically for actual CW. So it might be further along than you think.

I didn't actually realize that til I accidentally mouse-scrolled. Then I was much more impressed; that was actually quite neat. I wish there'd been something telling us about that feature or that mouse-zooming does something.

Here's an example of a zoomed in section, for the curious:

Edited by Biggest Salami, 26 August 2014 - 05:23 PM.