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#181 Kell Commander

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:01 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:



" The only items really remaining from the Community Warfare pillar are two items, although pretty big one"-Russ



So 1) you are admitting that CW warfare is not in fact here and 2) those 2 things are the vast majority of CW.

Without out those 2, CW can't exist. Therefore, it is not here yet. Still years overdue. Until many of us see some SIGNIFICANT progress our faith will not be restored.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:10 PM

View PostKell Commander, on 27 August 2014 - 06:01 PM, said:

So 1) you are admitting that CW warfare is not in fact here and 2) those 2 things are the vast majority of CW.

Without out those 2, CW can't exist. Therefore, it is not here yet. Still years overdue. Until many of us see some SIGNIFICANT progress our faith will not be restored.


I think you are getting beyond what.......CW is made up of parts, how hard is that to grasp. Association is as much a part of CW as mech battles. Of course its not all here but that is what October is for. I dont know what some of you are trying to get at by dismissing it because its not the full package, when the full package is well on its way. Its kinda silly point to make.

I doubt your faith would be restored regardless of anything they do. If it hasn't been restored at this point, another year wont do a thing.

At this point it is not a question if CW or when CW is coming. We should know by the State of the I.S adress. October folks.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:11 PM.


#183 Sandpit

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:15 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

Are you not understanding something.

" The only items really remaining from the Community Warfare pillar are two items, although pretty big one"-Russ

CW, was never one big feature to be released all at once. They said it was coming in phases.

There is module 1 and module 2. 1 and 2 make up the whole, 1 is a part and 2 is a part.

Association is CW, they are one in the same. Of course CW is made up of many parts, so there is no one object that defines CW. It is Players, Economy, and battles.

The part of CW you want are the battles, to you that is what CW is. that is fine, but that doesn't change that CW is still made up of parts.

Lets play your opinion game. If you said to me it is of my opinion that association is not a part of CW. I would ask why. Russ specially said, and Byran at Launch specifically talked about association being a feature of CW. Do i need to go further, or are you done?

ok
so CW is here according to you

so lets drop into the CW queue and play some games

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 06:10 PM, said:


I think you are getting beyond what.......CW is made up of parts, how hard is that to grasp.

No offense but it's apparently pretty hard, you seem to think having one piece is the whole thing

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 06:10 PM, said:

Of course its not all here.

the stop saying CW is here. Do you even understand how you're contradicting yourself?

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:16 PM

View PostSandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

ok
so CW is here according to you

so lets drop into the CW queue and play some games


No offense but it's apparently pretty hard, you seem to think having one piece is the whole thing

You know as well as i know, we are only at association. I never said CW was fully here, Only the first Phase.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:16 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

This thread is by blood wolf.
I am thinking something.
I will not say what I am thinking.
You know what I am thinking.

#186 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:20 PM

View PostSandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

ok
so CW is here according to you

so lets drop into the CW queue and play some games


No offense but it's apparently pretty hard, you seem to think having one piece is the whole thing


the stop saying CW is here. Do you even understand how you're contradicting yourself?

When did they ever say CW was just the planetary assault. I can give you quotes but give me a quote in your defense. When did they every say CW was just 1 specific thing? do you not know how a structure made up. Do you not know that every brick of the pyramid is just as important as any other.

one feature builds on top of the other, and the ones before are laid for foundation. I also have not contradicted myself yet, if i ever do I will be sure to send you a letter.

Did bryan not say CW is coming in phases? In the end sandpit your pushing for a unimportant point. What you feel is CW, doesn't actually mean much in the long run. So i dont know what your out to prove, or why you turn it into a personal argument.

CW is here whether you think so or not, and there is a horizon out in front.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:34 PM.


#187 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:26 PM

View PostRoland, on 27 August 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

This thread is by blood wolf.
I am thinking something.
I will not say what I am thinking.
You know what I am thinking.

Yea, that nobody really cares about what you think.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:37 PM.


#188 Sandpit

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:44 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

You know as well as i know, we are only at association. I never said CW was fully here, Only the first Phase.

you're a liar plain and simple you went back and edited every single one of your posts

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 07:36 AM, said:

As far as that goes, its over with, CW is hear,

but i got one before you attempted to make yourself look honest.

you just lost any and all credibility you might have had. liar

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:


you have said that before. Now CW is here, we see it, and yet some still dont want to believe it.
CW is here, accept it or not, it does not matter. It will arrive all the same.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:47 PM

View PostSandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 06:43 PM, said:

you're a liar plain and simple you went back and edited every single one of your posts

but i got one before you attempted to make yourself look honest.

you just lost any and all credibility you might have had. liar

I am not a Liar, now you got me mad. I have not lied a day in my life. I only edit if i see error in what I wrote or occasionally miswrite something. Do not call me a Liar, becuase you are going to make this real personal.

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 04:42 AM, said:

So this is going to be the follow up thread to my UI 2.0 thread and overview thread. This thread is for pure discussion and in no way is negativity going to be tolerated.

So now that association is out, what do we think of the game. Some have said that association is not CW, despite the fact that association is a critical part of CW. Basically we are not getting CW in one big package, instead we are getting pieces of it. I know many players are just all to happy to finally form Units. Which is very cool, we now can see the map of the IS. Basically some of what byran was presenting at the launch event, HE said CW is coming in phases so anybody saying that association is not CW is indeed __________(fill in the blank).

So what do you think of the game as far as what is going to be happening for the next few months. Obviously, the hit everything on the state of the IS address, So October is when we are going to see another part of CW. I think there was even more after that but I am not so sure. Now we can only look forward. I don't know how it helps people or a few find comfort in knowing that CW should have came in beta. Or even CW coming that early would have spelled disaster.

In my UI 2.0 thread back in December I predicted every date hit and so it was done. Now all we have left on the list is planetary assault. After CW i will think that this game will have the chance to grow even bigger. With the core features out of the way that will just allow for more resources elsewyre. Map creation is big on the list. What I am saying is, Now definitely more than ever I think PGI has shown promise in this regard. This was the final blow to doubt, If you are still living in 2012-13 please join us in 2014 and moving on to 15. Nothing but progress can be made.

Point is we literally have CW in our hands. Association is CW, take a piece of a brick and it is still a brick. Even if it is a part of something it is still that which is is meant to be. The Doubt should almost be gone but of course a piece is not a whole and we still wait on the latter halfs, which I am exited for.


Look at the Last paragraph and tell me I lied. What did i say, Association is ;like taking a piece of a brick and it is still a brick, meaning a piece of CW is still a piece of CW.

next time get your facts straight.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:49 PM.


#190 Sandpit

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:48 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

snip

sure thing, liar

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:50 PM

View PostSandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

sure thing, liar

I said the same thing in my intro post.


If I am a liar, then he is a fool. What an ..............If PGI is incompetent, what does that make him.

Always something with him.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:51 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:50 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

Below are some conservative estimates of the remaining Community Warfare features that I think we can probably beat.

Conservative Estimates:
- Association: July-Aug[/color]
- Planetary Conquest: Sept-Oct

you have said that before. Now CW is here, we see it, and yet some still dont want to believe it.

Like is said, whether you want to or not does not change what is, and thank goodness for that,

Anyone still using that 90 days statement as a shield, and not acknowledging for the sake of Ego. CW is here, accept it or not, it does not matter. It will arrive all the same.

The point was what we can expect after CW. What big project can we expect to see. One can wonder.

Once Planet assaults come I will make another thread. let's see if that tired viewpoint will still hold.



Okay....I'm done being nice about it. Your argument SUCKS. You are, IMHO, an idiot. I'm done with trying to credit you with a similar level of intellect as me, because quite frankly its an insult to my intelligence.

At this point you are making stuff up, a GD PLACEHOLDER for CW is here..with a static map and clan tags...that's it! PGI has almost NEVER met even a conservative estimate. 90 days is not an EGO thing, it's a fact. You're blind loyalty to PGI is simply stunning, and I'm done giving you credit for enough intelligence to understand this.

At least Heffay can make a cogent argument once and awhile, but I'm finally going to acknowledge that your ignorance is outstanding in it's lack of ability to string thoughts together. Replying to your posts is an exercise in futility and I feel like I'm abusing a "challenged" child.

Yup....got that off my chest.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:50 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Yea, that nobody really cares about what you think.

Your response here was way more funny before you edited it.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:51 PM

Wasn't CW supposed to be implemented around Start of Open Beta? Originally.

#195 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:54 PM

View PostRoland, on 27 August 2014 - 06:50 PM, said:

Your response here was way more funny before you edited it.

I always edit, when there is an error, so what?

View PostTLBFestus, on 27 August 2014 - 06:50 PM, said:



Okay....I'm done being nice about it. Your argument SUCKS. You are, IMHO, an idiot. I'm done with trying to credit you with a similar level of intellect as me, because quite frankly its an insult to my intelligence.

At this point you are making stuff up, a GD PLACEHOLDER for CW is here..with a static map and clan tags...that's it! PGI has almost NEVER met even a conservative estimate. 90 days is not an EGO thing, it's a fact. You're blind loyalty to PGI is simply stunning, and I'm done giving you credit for enough intelligence to understand this.

At least Heffay can make a cogent argument once and awhile, but I'm finally going to acknowledge that your ignorance is outstanding in it's lack of ability to string thoughts together. Replying to your posts is an exercise in futility and I feel like I'm abusing a "challenged" child.

Yup....got that off my chest.

what exactly did i make up.

This thread is done, I see where this is going. Once sandpit makes it personal they all go in.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:54 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:54 PM

View PostGreen Mamba, on 27 August 2014 - 06:51 PM, said:

Wasn't CW supposed to be implemented around Start of Open Beta? Originally.

yes, unless you ask someone who feels the need to lie to others. Original date was 90 days after OB
then 90 days after launch
then Q2 of 2013
then summer 2013
then "we haven't worked on it even though we said we were"
then Fall 2014
Then by December 26 2014

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:56 PM

View PostSandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 06:54 PM, said:

yes, unless you ask someone who feels the need to lie to others. Original date was 90 days after OB
then 90 days after launch
then Q2 of 2013
then summer 2013
then "we haven't worked on it even though we said we were"
then Fall 2014
Then by December 26 2014

give, evidence for that claim. This time dont use multiple sources referring to the same thing, Like you did last time.

you see there. give is not capitolized, like should be lower case

that is why i edit.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 06:56 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:58 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 06:54 PM, said:

I always edit, when there is an error, so what?


what exactly did i make up.

This thread is done, I see where this is going.

no sir, you do not, you have several posts in this thread you didn't edit.(and if I really have to, I'll dig up your old posts to prove you're lying about this as well)

You had a decent thread gonig until YOU decided to lie and try to make it look like others were the dishonest ones. You're just another in a long list of trolls who can't admit they were wrong, or made a false statement, or own up to what they did say in the first place. gpclose

like i said, you just lost any and all credibility you had. Everyone who has followed this thread knows you're now lying. I even managed to copy and paste a couple of your posts that showed exactly where you said that before you managed to edit them. You just weren't as slick as you thought you were.

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 06:56 PM, said:

give, evidence for that claim. This time dont use multiple sources referring to the same thing, Like you did last time.

you see there. give is not capitolized, like should be lower case

that is why i edit.

I'm not giving YOU anything. I don't bother diggin up info for liars. Dig it up yourself, as far as I'm concerned I wasn't even talking to you, I was answering a question from another player. You want to participate in that convo, own up to your dishonesty

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:58 PM

View PostSandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

no sir, you do not, you have several posts in this thread you didn't edit.(and if I really have to, I'll dig up your old posts to prove you're lying about this as well)

You had a decent thread gonig until YOU decided to lie and try to make it look like others were the dishonest ones. You're just another in a long list of trolls who can't admit they were wrong, or made a false statement, or own up to what they did say in the first place. gpclose

like i said, you just lost any and all credibility you had. Everyone who has followed this thread knows you're now lying. I even managed to copy and paste a couple of your posts that showed exactly where you said that before you managed to edit them. You just weren't as slick as you thought you were.

See i caught you, making this personal as you usual do for no reason. Why do you want to go that route? because your buddies showed up. You switch character. editing is not a bad thing you know,and I did not lie about anything.

Go back to my original post and quote me at the end. I dont need to lie about anything nor have I ever. I am definitely not going to start on a forum. where none of this actually affects me on any level.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 07:00 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 07:03 PM

My original post is unedited, my views and stance have not changed.

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 04:42 AM, said:


Point is we literally have CW in our hands. Association is CW, take a piece of a brick and it is still a brick. Even if it is a part of something it is still that which is is meant to be. The Doubt should almost be gone but of course a piece is not a whole and we still wait on the latter halfs, which I am exited for.


Go ahead and check, my original post is unedited, so you can match it. Nice try, trying to discredit me, for your fallic argument. Running out of cards to play so you try calling me a liar,

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 07:05 PM.






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