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#101 Talon Pryde

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:48 PM

Pffft $120.00; if I was told that investing $1000.00 would in anyway support a new Mechwarrior game, I'd go cash in a bond. This just happens to be cheaper and will let me buy some peripherals for the game.

(By-the-by, I'm just an average guy with student loans and the like, I just happened to start a savings bond, with about $40 coming off the pay check, as soon as I heard about MWO.)

#102 PSiKoTiC

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:51 PM

To each their own I suppose, I haven't seen anything worthwhile from the battletech franchise since before microsoft took over the mech series and mech commander. I'd openly support anything with the mechwarrior/battle tech series on principle, there is a market here and I for one am willing to show that. Sadly where there is not money there is not corporate interest in development

Edited by PSiKoTiC, 23 June 2012 - 05:53 PM.


#103 Noob Weapons

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:54 PM

View PostSP3CTREnyc, on 22 June 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:


Let's be honest: you're not investing in anything. You're consuming a product, not anticipating a return on your money. Also, what exactly are you getting? $80 in-game currency, only PGI said you won't be able to buy anything with real currency from the in-game store that will give you an advantage. You get a mech - or four - that earns you 25% more c-bills per battle, plus the additional 50% you get from the premium account. So you're going to reach the endgame faster than anyone, and then...

Sorry if I'm skeptical of the founder's program, but I play World of Tanks and I saw what a minimal leveling experience looks like with Star Trek Online.



In my opinion, its different than that.

Lets say that if you had paid $60 on a world of warcraft account before it was released, then you get a 25% exp boost or 25% gold boost for life, Now because WoW is so huge, anyone would want to pay $60 to get a lifetime boost, but the opportunity is gone.

Now its only the people who took the risk when the game was unknown that get that boost.

Its the same story for MWO, if this game gets even half as big as WoW then that c-bill boost could be AMAZING in the long run. Now I permanently have a mech that allows me to farm up the c-bills I need to get whatever new mech, ammo, or weapon is released in the future that is the biggest and baddest thing. However, there is still risk. If this game dumps out like Wakfu did, then that investment will mean nothing because there is noone to play the game with, and nothing to show for it.

In my opinion MWO is a good risk, because looking at the gameplay videos I believe that the game will be a huge success, and I think I could play it for a year or more and still come back to the game whenever I want because of the free to play status.

So these are the reasons in my opinion that founders pack is a risk vs reward, and is also (for me) well worth the reward.

#104 ThunderHorse

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:59 PM

View PostBlastkowitz, on 22 June 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

That's how I toke it.

Freudian slip, quiaff?

#105 CowboyHatValor

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:02 PM

View Postgixxer556, on 23 June 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:

I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been said. I had the funds available and look forward to what I believe will become a very fun and entertaining game.


Hey neighbor! ;)

There are a TON of people from Texas on here...guess Texans like giant robot mechs.

#106 perfectblue

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:08 PM

View PostCowboyHatValor, on 23 June 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:


Hey neighbor! ;)

There are a TON of people from Texas on here...guess Texans like giant robot mechs.


Fort Worth, TX here as well.

#107 ArchRakshasa

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:45 PM

Hit the founders package as well... just hope they meet up to there timeline.
Still pending for beta invite though....

#108 Reported for Inappropriate Name

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:53 AM

well it doesn't have to be a success, but if it's a failure my foot might risk its way up some ***** B)

Edited by Battlecruiser, 24 June 2012 - 02:53 AM.


#109 Remarius

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:20 AM

View PostSP3CTREnyc, on 22 June 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:


Let's be honest: you're not investing in anything. You're consuming a product, not anticipating a return on your money. Also, what exactly are you getting? $80 in-game currency, only PGI said you won't be able to buy anything with real currency from the in-game store that will give you an advantage. You get a mech - or four - that earns you 25% more c-bills per battle, plus the additional 50% you get from the premium account. So you're going to reach the endgame faster than anyone, and then...

Sorry if I'm skeptical of the founder's program, but I play World of Tanks and I saw what a minimal leveling experience looks like with Star Trek Online.


The problem with what you're saying is that there really is no endgame in a game like this and you'd know that if you really played much of World of Tanks. This is pure pvp and any advantage we can get over our opponent we'll take - xp directly plays into performance here. In this case I'll start with 4 mechs and will have a 75% credit bonus and 50% xp bonus for the first 3 months alone. I'll climb that slippery path a lot faster than someone without that advantage and then until you can slowly grind your unbonused way up I'll have a clear advantage over you. In the meantime I'll have plenty of funds to equip my favourite rides as I want. Thats the hard mechanical viewpoint of course... the rest of the reason is simply that I want this product to succeed as I've been waiting a long time for it. B)

#110 GHQCommander

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:30 AM

Some of the risk could be reduced by giving players who have not yet bought the founders; beta access.

I say none founders should get beta access from here on, just some of them. To create more trust and hopefully more sales.

#111 goon

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 05:18 AM

I have it on good authority that the game will be good and that is why I bought into it and judging by how many people bought into it as well especially the people who dropped 120$ there are people who share faith, but I'm a poor scrub so I don't get a Premium Mech :C

Edited by goon, 24 June 2012 - 05:21 AM.


#112 Diomed

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:21 AM

Yes, and considering the risk in light of such games as Diablo 3, Star Trek Online, The Old Republic and Rift I think we are well advised to be cautious. Even games that I consider good still used some questionable policies after release that if I knew now what I knew then I would act differently, I'm looking at you World of Tanks.

The question isn't just risk, its how risky is it and what is the payoff.

#113 Schtirlitz

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:28 AM

Risk and hope, i'd say.

#114 CowboyHatValor

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:17 PM

View PostSchtirlitz, on 24 June 2012 - 06:28 AM, said:

Risk and hope, i'd say.


Agreed. I have very high hopes/expectations, but everything I've seen so far has me optimistic.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:50 PM

View PostDiomed, on 24 June 2012 - 06:21 AM, said:

The question isn't just risk, its how risky is it and what is the payoff.


Agreed. My personal risk (lack of information, no final product, possible money loss) outweighs my personal benefits (fun), especially since I am unlikely to spend huge amounts of time on this game. Yet...I am still debating about the Legendary Founder's package.

At this time, I don't have a badge to the left of this post. :)

These packages are rightfully named "Founder" packs, that's for sure.

#116 Dozer

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:05 PM

"One cannot refuse to eat just because there is a chance of being choked." - Chinese Proverb

#117 Flinch

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:35 PM

Founder synonymous with Risk?

Giant.
Robots.

As far as I am concerned, there is no risk here. Only reward.

Also, who here that has got one of the founders package HASN'T been involved with Mechwarrior for many years now? That alone means a good start with a large playerbase.

#118 Kracow

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:46 PM

Using the word investment and purchasing a video game package should never be used in the same sentence. If the game goes global you cannot take out a larger capital gain than what you put in can you?

#119 Dozer

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:01 AM

View PostKracow, on 26 June 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Using the word investment and purchasing a video game package should never be used in the same sentence. If the game goes global you cannot take out a larger capital gain than what you put in can you?


Sure if you define your investment reward in financial terms. If however the game gets better by going global and you reap the rewards in-game of high populations, more Mech varieties, greater customisation options, new maps etc then yeah you get a greater gain than you had to start with. Clearly for some it's not all about dollars and cents.

Edited by Dozer, 27 June 2012 - 12:02 AM.


#120 Arafinar

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:06 AM

View PostDozer, on 26 June 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

"One cannot refuse to eat just because there is a chance of being choked." - Chinese Proverb

rgr that is true , but you must eat to live, you dont have to play giant internet robots to live.





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