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[B0oN]

Shameless bumping of important threads ....
Processing ...

DONE !

[Tarl Cabot]

Should post some system details. Suggest at least the first part of the dxdiag that shows CPU/GPU information.

Would also suggestion normal FPS as well as FPS when it becomes noticeable and a screenshot of Ping/Status display(Tab Key).



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Will give this a move up but I also have a question/suggestion.

Power Management Mode appears to be set to adaptive > change to Best Performance


Also, which likely is nothing - Ambient Occlusion > The Nvidia Panel had to listed as Off but in the Nvidia Inspector it is listed as Enabled.

My info. I see is slightly, occasionally, but nothing near what is being seen in the posted pics.

Spoiler

Time of this report: 9/19/2014, 08:31:53
Machine name: HAPPY
Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_gdr.140723-2018)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/12/13 15:12:55 Ver: 04.06.05
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz /OC 4.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8080MB RAM
Page File: 4670MB used, 8016MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.16384 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Display Tab 2: No problems found.
Display Tab 3: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series (7950)
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x679A)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_679A&SUBSYS_04241043&REV_00
Display Memory: 6894 MB
Dedicated Memory: 3054 MB
Shared Memory: 3840 MB
Current Mode: 1080 x 1920 (32 bit) (60Hz) (3 displays running atm)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: 27EA63
Monitor Id: GSM598B
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: Displayport External
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1280 (English)
Driver Version: 14.100.0.0
DDI Version: 11.1
Feature Levels: 11.1,11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.3
Graphics Preemption: DMA
Compute Preemption: DMA
Miracast: Not Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/17/2014 21:42:54, 1343272 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-24DA-11CF-F376-2E24BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x679A
SubSys ID: 0x04241043
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem25.inf:cb0ae41468a1620e:ati2mtag_R575:14.100.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_679a
Rank Of Driver: 00DA2001
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D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

[Flapdrol]

What about turning on msaa ingame, but then forcing it off in nvidia control panel?

Anyway, I've never seen this issue. Motion blur and postprocessing are at minimum.

Edited by Flapdrol, 19 September 2014 - 06:25 AM.

[Koniving]

Flapdrol, on 19 September 2014 - 06:23 AM, said:

What about turning on msaa ingame, but then forcing it off in nvidia control panel?

Anyway, I've never seen this issue. Motion blur and postprocessing are at minimum.

Are you using DX 9 or DX 11?
You won't see it on DX11 if you use MSAA or TXAA.

[Napoleon_Blownapart]

when i look in catalyst settings for AMD i see an option to override AA settings,have you tried doing it out of the game?or make a specific profile for MWO?

[Modo44]

Koniving, on 19 September 2014 - 06:51 AM, said:

You won't see it on DX11 if you use MSAA or TXAA.

Yes, you will also never see the 20+fps again.

Here is a strange bit. I forced advanced AA using AMD GPU drivers. This resulted in no apparent change in MWO framerates. That was unexpected, to say the least, since the basic FXAA option of MWO eats FPS like crazy on my rig.

Edited by Modo44, 19 September 2014 - 08:35 AM.

[Lordred]

People who do not notice this.

Low resolution players, everything is already a little blurry, it may be difficult to notice.
High FPS, players, it becomes less noticeable as the frame refresh goes up, but if you inspect individual screens, it is indeed happening.
Anyone who uses MSAA, or TXAA.

I have already proven it happens regardless of frame rate. It is even in Cryteks official documentation.



The following command is appears to be locked in our user.cfg


This is what the Crytek Documentaion says

r_antialisingmode=
(All of these are POSTAA modes)
0: Off
1: SMAA Low (1x MSAAx0T) - Fast / For Consoles FXAA3
2: SMAA Medium (1x MSAA x 1T) Default Quality/Performance compromise (Temporal)
3: SMAA MGPU (2x MSAA x 0T) Crossfire/SLI Friendly mode
4: SMAA High (2x MSAA x 1T) (Temporal)
5: FXAA (1x MSAA x 0T) Fastest, alternative to SMAA low, less sharp results
6: TXAA Medium (2x MSAA x 1T) (Temporal)
7: TXAA High (4x MSAA x 1T) (Temporal)
8: MSAA Medium (4x MSAA)
9: MSAA High (8x MSAA) - Recomended for having SLI/Crossfire setup for this mode

[Cyborne Elemental]

shameless bump

[Lordred]

Will we get an official response this week?

[Wintersdark]

Lordred, on 21 September 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

Will we get an official response this week?

Maybe? Hopefully?

[Texugo87]

Bump!

I get this too, DX9 or 11, videocard is a 7870 Tahiti LE.

Is there any other info I can provide?

[Wintersdark]

Today:

This is in DX9 (as the HUD shows), trying having AA forcibly disabled via driver settings. As you can see, that doesn't work. Incidentally, you can see the performance impact when ghosting is present - when no ghosting is visible, I'm comfortably at 60fps. Annoying, as the PostAA is causing ghosting, and it's at low and OH GOD THE JAGGIES. Get ghosting, performance hit, and not AA to speak of to boot. Lovely.

Trying Enabling MSAA in DX12 now, and then forcibly disabling it in driver settings. I'm not getting the ghosting, but given the performance hit I'm not sure MSAA is actually being disabled. More experimenting with that to do.

My graphics hardware is definitely not top notch, but it's good enough to get great Mech Porn, if the game will only let me

[shellashock]

Would like an official response to this as well...

[kuangmk11]

so annoying. FIX IT!

[B0oN]

Bumping for great justice and reduced eye-strain !

[Lordred]

So lets see if we get a DEV response today, or if CS responds to my e-mail.

[Kmieciu]

Ghost reporting :-)

https://lh6.googleus...l3EQ=w1890-h828

[Alexander Garden]

Returning this thread back to Patch Feedback.

Give me some time to look into this.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Thank you.

[Lordred]

Thank you very much for taking the time to look into this Alexander.

I have other bugs to assault you with if you want, fun thing is, they are related to Bugs present in TXAA/MSAA modes