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#1 Dorion

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

Hey guys, thinking about buying my first hero mech. Got 2 questions:

1. Can you swap out weapons on a hero mech or are they fixed.
2. Will they eventually release a hero mech for each different battle mech? Direwolf is my favorite mech so should I wait until they release a hero Direwolf? Is that even likely or am I pulling at straws?

Any help or comments are appreciated!

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:33 AM

Yes. Heroes are fully customization like normal mechs.

And yes, they will eventually make a Hero mech for each chassis.

You just can't change the camo pattern on Hero mechs....but you can change the colors.

You may be waiting a while for a Clan hero mech though...

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:39 AM

Awesome. Thanks for the reply Bheal Fire! Appreciate your help!

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:58 AM

View PostBhael Fire, on 08 September 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

Yes. Heroes are fully customization like normal mechs.

And yes, they will eventually make a Hero mech for each chassis.

You just can't change the camo pattern on Hero mechs....but you can change the colors.

You may be waiting a while for a Clan hero mech though...



Isn't that essentially what the "PRIME" versions are?

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 11:04 AM

View PostDorion, on 08 September 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:

Hey guys, thinking about buying my first hero mech. Got 2 questions:

1. Can you swap out weapons on a hero mech or are they fixed.
2. Will they eventually release a hero mech for each different battle mech? Direwolf is my favorite mech so should I wait until they release a hero Direwolf? Is that even likely or am I pulling at straws?

Any help or comments are appreciated!

1 - yes u can change everything but the camo
2 - a) yes . b ) if u want a Dire Hero mech you need to PreOrder it.. the Prime that you get should have an " i " in brackets ex: DireWolf Prime(I) <--- if it shows that it considered a "hero" and you get ur 30% more cbills

View PostKain Thul, on 08 September 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:



Isn't that essentially what the "PRIME" versions are?

If you PreOrdered yes.. the Primes you can buy now in game for cbills are not.. they need to have the (I) next to the name

Edited by Warblood, 08 September 2014 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 11:11 AM

View PostKain Thul, on 08 September 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

Isn't that essentially what the "PRIME" versions are?


The Invasion series Primes are essentially Heroes...but not technically true Hero mechs. That is they will be releasing actual Hero versions of Clan mech eventually, but not until after the Clan invasion "pre-order" promotion is over (at which point Invasion series Prime variants will no longer be available).

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 11:57 AM

View PostKain Thul, on 08 September 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:



Isn't that essentially what the "PRIME" versions are?


Has has been pointed out, not all Prime variants have a bonus. Conversely, not all mechs with a bonus count as Hero mechs. Founders, Phoenix, and Invasion mechs all carry a C-Bill bonus, but none are considered Heros. If they were we wouldn't need Hellslinger, Grid Iron, Jester, Boar's Head, or... X-5? I can never remember what the Founder light was.

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 11:59 AM

View PostLauLiao, on 08 September 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:


Has has been pointed out, not all Prime variants have a bonus. Conversely, not all mechs with a bonus count as Hero mechs. Founders, Phoenix, and Invasion mechs all carry a C-Bill bonus, but none are considered Heros. If they were we wouldn't need Hellslinger, Grid Iron, Jester, Boar's Head, or... X-5? I can never remember what the Founder light was.


I believe the Founder light was a Jenner.

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:05 PM

View PostLauLiao, on 08 September 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:

I can never remember what the Founder light was.

Commando, and it has a hero, the Deaths Knell :)
Edit: It's the Jenner JR7-D

Off the top of my head:
Founder: 25% CB
Hero: 30% CB
Phoenix: 30% CB, 10% Loyalty
Champion: 10% XP
Sarah's Jenner: 10% XP

Edited by stjobe, 08 September 2014 - 12:23 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:12 PM

View Poststjobe, on 08 September 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

Commando, and it has a hero, the Deaths Knell :)



Thank you Mr. Founder

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:19 PM

View Poststjobe, on 08 September 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

Commando, and it has a hero, the Deaths Knell :)


I thought it was the JR7-D?

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:20 PM

View PostTerciel1976, on 08 September 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:


I thought it was the JR7-D?

Doh!

It is.

JR7-D, HBK-4G, CPLT-C1, and AS7-D.

...all I had to do was check my profile page, and I got it wrong :D

Sorry for the blonde moment :D

Edited by stjobe, 08 September 2014 - 12:22 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:22 PM

View PostTerciel1976, on 08 September 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:


I thought it was the JR7-D?


I was told by another founder long ago too it was the Jenner-D, and always thought it was so.

View Poststjobe, on 08 September 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

Doh!

It is.


Haha founder fail :P

#14 stjobe

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:27 PM

View PostTorgun, on 08 September 2014 - 12:22 PM, said:

Haha founder fail :P

Indeed :)

My only excuse is that the first thing I did when I got into closed beta was to buy a Commando - I never did like the Jenner and haven't piloted it much.

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:31 PM

View Poststjobe, on 08 September 2014 - 12:27 PM, said:

Indeed :)

My only excuse is that the first thing I did when I got into closed beta was to buy a Commando - I never did like the Jenner and haven't piloted it much.


Well back then with streaks chewing out the CT, the Commando was a beast. Jenner-D is my first light and will always have a mechbay for it, much like my first mech ever, the 4SP.

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:41 PM

View PostTorgun, on 08 September 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:


Well back then with streaks chewing out the CT, the Commando was a beast.

Nah, Streaks didn't have the CT-seeking behaviour back in closed beta, that came later. In fact, back then you could actually miss with Streaks, since they had a limited turn rate.

And no ECM either, and no DHS, and you could drop with less than 10 heat sinks.

Now imagine trying to keep a 14 SRM + ML Commando cool on the 7 SHS your XL 195 engine came with...

It was a challenge. Fun, but a challenge :)

Edited by stjobe, 08 September 2014 - 12:46 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:46 PM

View Poststjobe, on 08 September 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

Nah, Streaks didn't have the CT-seeking behaviour back in closed beta, that came later. In fact, back then you could actually miss with Streaks, since they had a limited turn rate.

And no ECM either, and no DHS, and you could drop with less than 10 heat sinks.

Now imagine trying to keep a 10 SRM + ML Commando cool on the 7 SHS your XL 195 engine came with...

It was a challenge. Fun, but a challenge :)


That sounds like fun times, especially no ECM and streaks that makes sense. What the heck went wrong eh?

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:47 PM

View PostTorgun, on 08 September 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:


That sounds like fun times, especially no ECM and streaks that makes sense. What the heck went wrong eh?

I could tell you but I don't want to be banned ;)

Edit: And yes, it was fun times.

Edited by stjobe, 08 September 2014 - 12:49 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 01:15 PM

Not all was wonderful, the best light mech was 50 tons and chock full do small lasers as I recall. :D

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 01:26 PM

View PostMurphy7, on 08 September 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Not all was wonderful, the best light mech was 50 tons and chock full do small lasers as I recall. :D

Surely you mean 80 tons and chock full of small lasers? ;)

Disclaimer: Can't actually remember if the Awesome came out in CB or OB...





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