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[CyclonerM]

Gargoyle, Gargoyle, Gargoyle

I fear that the Executioner might be even too good , with its agility

[Pariah Devalis]

They have stated the Shadowcat is not being released (yet) due to persistent MASC issues. Therefore, no Scat, Executioner, or Firemoth.

[CoffiNail]

You know. ATM I would be fine with a non MASC Executioner. Give you another what 4-6 tons or so to play with atm until MASC.

We have to wait a whole week now! Heh

[Pariah Devalis]

I agree. I would totally not mind the Executioner with the MASC removed. Still fast enough, and that frees up enough tonnage to put it in the 30 ton range of podspace. XD

That said, it would cripple the Firemoth and Shadowcat not to have MASC.

[CoffiNail]

Pariah Devalis, on 09 September 2014 - 05:06 AM, said:

That said, it would cripple the Firemoth and Shadowcat not to have MASC.

Not true. at 161 or so with the FireMoth and 2ERML,SRM4&SRM6... trust me by me running this with the Firemoth rough armour values since closed beta to clan launch. The Commando never changed for me. Firemoth is still very viable without MASC.

[Pariah Devalis]

I suppose it would allow it to actually put on some armor, without the MASC....

[Lily from animove]

Kyle Wright, on 08 September 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net...i/Cauldron_Born

Cauldron Born would be another mech that would fit the heavy build.

the iconic starter mech of MW 3. But I guess we get a mad dog. Config X pls, cuz ECM

[Pariah Devalis]

I would still actually love to see a Night Gyr , but just like the Arctic Cheetah it would be terrifyingly best in Class. At least for a while. I mean, it, and the Nova Cat that was based on it, have 38 tons of room to cram weapons onto it. And the Night Gyr comes with 5 hardwired jump jets.

Also slightly too soon to release it.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 09 September 2014 - 05:20 AM.

[CoffiNail]

We need to look at this as a Clan based pack/

1 mech for each major invasion Clan.
Wolf, Falcon, Bear and Jaguar. + Bonus

I think the bonus will be the Hellbringer, as we get access to it on the 23rd and it fills the Clans gap of ECM equipped mechs

Mad Dog will be the CGB mech, so Heavy is filled?

Myst Lynx gives us a light and CSJ

Ice Ferret for the Medium and Clan Wolf

Leaves us with the Assault and Gargoyle?

Unless we get a Hellbringer for Heavy, Viper for the medium and CGB and then the Gsrgoyle for CW Assault...

Thinking on it.

Light- Myst Lynx (CSJ)
Medium - Viper (CGB)
Heavy - Hellbringer (CJF)
Assault - Gargoyle (CW)
Bonus - Mad Dog

This is my guess for this.

Edited by CoffiNail, 09 September 2014 - 05:38 AM.

[pbiggz]

Mist Lynx, Ice Ferret, Hellbringer/Mad Dog (its a toss up), Gargoyle

Everything else has masc or is too far ahead in the timeline.

[KhanCipher]

CyclonerM, on 09 September 2014 - 04:43 AM, said:

I fear that the Executioner might be even too good , with its agility

It will probably have about the same agility as the Highlander, except it's going to be worse than the highlander because of terribad jets, low stock armor on the torso, and hardly any tonnage to mount big weapons. It's pretty much like a 60s/70s murica muscle car, it will go forward really well, just don't ask it to go around the nurburgring.

[Kyrs]

Speculation is fun:
Septembre release: Fire_Moth due to lack of scout for clans and the fact that it won't generate much $$$ if add in package
http://www.sarna.net...re_Moth_(Dasher)

Package:
Light: probably koshi
http://www.sarna.net...Cheetah_(Hankyu)
http://www.sarna.net...ist_Lynx_(Koshi)

Med: probably dragonfly
http://www.sarna.net...iper_(Dragonfly)
http://www.sarna.net..._Ferret_(Fenris)

Heavy: No hellbringer since that variant has is a ecm heavy, probably Vulture since older that cauldron
http://www.sarna.net...ad_Dog_(Vulture)
http://www.sarna.net..._(Cauldron-Born)

Assault: probably kingfisher with ecm, release first since it grandfather of Executionner
http://www.sarna.net...e_(Man_O%27_War)
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kingfisher

Edited by Kyrs, 09 September 2014 - 06:35 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

No Firemoth, kyrs. It has MASC. Why is the Hellbringer a no because of ECM? Suddenly not an issue with the mist lynx. Hmmm. Ebon Jaguar is not out for another two years unless they vastly accelerate the time line.

I would like to see the kingfisher, too, but it has a standard engine. Is PGI willing to release a clan mech with a standard engine? I hope so but I don't know.

[Monsoon]

Well Mad Dog is a must, or the unwashed masses will rise up and riot!! Whether this is as the Heavy in Wave 2 or the bonus mech is anyone's guess.

Gargoyle, Mist Lynx and Viper are my other guesses. (Hellbringer/Loki as the Heavy if Mad Dog is made the bonus toy).

Edited by Monsoon, 09 September 2014 - 07:15 AM.

[LtColVeers]

Mad dog, gargoyle, executioner, ice ferret and then some elementals for my supernova.

[Valkyrie Vewas]

It Better include the maddog Best mech not in the game. Im sorry it needs to be in the game for me to consider this mechwarrior...

[Kyrs]

Pariah Devalis, on 09 September 2014 - 06:53 AM, said:

No Firemoth, kyrs. It has MASC. Why is the Hellbringer a no because of ECM? Suddenly not an issue with the mist lynx. Hmmm. Ebon Jaguar is not out for another two years unless they vastly accelerate the time line.

I would like to see the kingfisher, too, but it has a standard engine. Is PGI willing to release a clan mech with a standard engine? I hope so but I don't know.

If they still go for the planned 12vs12, Firemoth with no masc is the best match up for locus. They did release mech without it equipement in the past. So it shouldn't be much of an issue for them. (ex:ECM & Commande Console).

And for cauldron it posted at 3049 on sarna. (but they could be wrong).
There's no ECM heavy in IS so hellbringer is to much wishfull thinking for me

I have to admit that the Kingfisher is wishful thinking from my part, but it a good counter for Atas d-dc.

Edited by Kyrs, 09 September 2014 - 08:24 AM.

[Hawk819]

man, everyone is focused on the TROs and thinking timeline. Well, everyone is partly right. Sure the Technical Readouts are canon and apart of the timeline, however, one must think of a rookie baseball card, and say,"Yea, this is his stats for this year!"

Wrong!!

First of all, those said stats, are the stats from the previous year. So that card has value but the stats on the back are not the ones for that particular year.

The same can be said of the Technical Readouts, 3039, 3050, etc.

Which is why I'm still posting these `Mechs. They were all seen at the major battles between Clan and Inner Sphere forces. Hell, Grayson Death Carlyle and his Legion faced off against Clan Jade Falcon, and beat them twice! The Falcons had the following 'Mechs in those Battles: Black Lanner (3058), Fire Falcon (3058), plus the Summoner, Kit Fox, and Mad Dog.

So I say again:

Possibles are-

Light Mechs
Hankyu (Arctic Cheetah)
Fire Falcon
Koshi (Mist Lynx)

Medium Mechs
Grendel
Fenris (Ice Ferret)
Black Lanner
Nobori Nin (Huntsman)
Battle Cobra

Heavy Mechs
Cauldron Born (Ebon Jaguar)
Loki (Hellbringer)
Vulture (Mad Dog)
Night Gyr
Crossbow

Assault Mechs
Man O'War
Kingfisher

These `Mechs were seen during Operation Revival aka the Clan Invasion and fit the current timeline. Still, this is just speculation on my part, and should not be taken seriously, Best one can do is take it with a grain of salt and hope for the best.

As for the IIC variants, well, Russ did say that those will come later on after January 2015. Which means, Second Line `Mechs are not out of the question. Will we see a Kodiak and Grizzly? Maybe. Maybe not. Still it doesn't hurt to speculate at this point.

Edited by Hawk819, 09 September 2014 - 08:16 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Pretty safe to say the Heavy is a Mad Dog/Hellbringer and the bonus is whichever one isn't the heavy.

[Redshift2k5]

No matter what gets picked, looking forward to Alex's designs. ProbAbly won't buy any of 'em with Cash but eventually for CB

Edited by Redshift2k5, 09 September 2014 - 08:20 AM.