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[KHETTI]

Light-Mist Lynx
Medium-Ice Ferret/Viper
Heavy-Maddog/Hellbringer/Ebon Jaguar
Assault-Gargoyle

These all featured in the clan invasion and are considered general clan mechs, so this makes them more likely choices.

[Scratx]

Carrie Harder, on 08 September 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

The Gargoyle would be nearly useless in MWO. It would have 19.5 tons of pod space after maxing its armor, or I guess you could strip down 0.5 tons of armor to bring your pod space up to 20 tons. An 80 ton mech, with 20 tons of weaponry...think about that for a second. For reference, a 55 ton Shadow Hawk can have up to 26.5-27 tons of "pod space" available. Lol.

Oh, and its hardpoints are bad too, so you can't even boat lasers with it to make up for the lack of tonnage.

And we thought the Summoner was bad?

[Griggio]

Carrie Harder, on 08 September 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

The Gargoyle would be nearly useless in MWO. It would have 19.5 tons of pod space after maxing its armor, or I guess you could strip down 0.5 tons of armor to bring your pod space up to 20 tons. An 80 ton mech, with 20 tons of weaponry...think about that for a second. For reference, a 55 ton Shadow Hawk can have up to 26.5-27 tons of "pod space" available. Lol.

Oh, and its hardpoints are bad too, so you can't even boat lasers with it to make up for the lack of tonnage.

You couldn't even boat lasers anyway right now without becoming a walking George Foreman Grill set to broil.

I would love to see Maddog. Ebon Jaguar is still one of my favorite mechs, production started in 3049 and wasn't seen until 3053.....I'd be down for a little time manipulation to see one.

Edited by Griggio, 08 September 2014 - 10:19 PM.

[Hoax415]

No MASC means Mist Lynx aka Koshi for light (25 tonner).

Dragonfly or Fenris for medium, who knows which, the other mech could be the bonus mech (is the bonus a 5th chassis? I didn't quite catch the details).

If forced to predict I'd say they'll opt for the 40 ton Viper aka Dragonfly.

Heavy mech should be the Hellbringer aka Loki (65 tonner) for a variety of reasons.
-Gives the pure clan teams in CW a second source of ECM
-Way less work to model because it shares features with the Thor aka Summoner
-Lets them save the wildly popular Vulture for a solo sale in the future.

The Gargoyle aka Man o War (80 tonner) should be the heaviest piece because no MASC means no Executioner.

There may be one surprise inclusion from outside the 3050 TRO certainly but if not that seems like the logical lineup.

What's sad is that the Man o War and Loki will both be quite underwhelming because they don't get Endo and they are humanoid designs. Though the Man o War does get FF armor which might be a somewhat saving grace.

On the lighter side of things there is certainly more potential, the Viper will be much better than the Nova (which is weak because no FF no Endo). It will be a fast nasty terror that reminds people of the Nova pre nerfs.

The Mist Lynx's strength will probably depend on its size and hitboxes, but if its comparable to the size of the Spider or Commando it could be a real pain for pilots to deal with and could end up being preferable to the slower Adder as a combat light.

None of these though would challenge the Mad Cat for battlefield supremacy as things stand though so don't worry. Status quo protected.

Edited by Hoax415, 08 September 2014 - 10:26 PM.

[Carrie Harder]

Hoax415, on 08 September 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

What's sad is that the Man o War and Loki will both be quite underwhelming because they don't get Endo and they are humanoid designs. Though the Man o War does get FF armor which might be a somewhat saving grace.

The Hellbringer gets ECM and 24.5 tons of pod space (when armor is maxed). It would be passable.

The Man O War, however, only gets ~20 tons of pod space for an 80 ton mech, which is embarrassingly pathetic.

Edited by Carrie Harder, 08 September 2014 - 10:25 PM.

[Hawk819]

I've read the posts here in this discussion, and everyone is overlooking one `Mech in particular: Fenris.

My guess, and I hope I'm not wrong here:

Koshi --> definite given
Fenris ---> A possible maybe. . . if not, then Dragonfly
Vulture*---> Another possible. . . if not, Loki (about time too. We finally get an ECM Heavy)
Man O'War----> same as the Koshi.

Two out of Four isn't all bad. Still, there are other possibles as well and they have nothing to do with the 3058 timeline. these `Mechs were seen at the Battles for both Luthien and Tukayyid.

Possibles:

Kingfisher
Night Gyr
Hankyu
Nobori Nin
Grendel
Fire Falcon
Black Lanner
Cauldron Born

Let me make this abundantly clear: I'm putting these out here as possibles. nothing is written in stone as of yet. One never knows till they spring it out there for all of us to see. So cross your fingers, and hope for the best. If the Man O'War is not apart of this, then I sure hope it's the Kingfisher.



*Only variants Prime, A and B. Too many Gauss boats as it is. So no C variant.

[Lightfoot]

Cougar, Shadowcat, Mad Dog, Kodiak.

Cougar is a well equipped clan Light.

MASC should be done so I am thinking Shadowcat.

Mad Dog, lore.

Kodiak may be 100 tons, but is needed for the current timeline lore.

[Kilo 40]

Lightfoot, on 08 September 2014 - 10:52 PM, said:

MASC should be done so I am thinking Shadowcat.

he specifically said no shadowcat because they still haven't figured out how to do MASC

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Medium: HBK IIC.

[Yiazmat]

L: Piranha
M: Hunch IIC
H: Mad Dog
A: Gargoyle

Bonus? Hellstar

Shut up, I can dream! (>`.`)>

[Archon]

L: Cougar
M: Viper
H: Hellbringer
A: Man O' War or Executioner; reason being there's an 80 and 95 ton IS mech but not an 80 or 95 ton clan mech yet. I would love the Kodiak but given the controversy around the Direwolf I doubt we'll see another 100 ton clan mech soon. The Man O' War and Executioner were also more prominent during the Clan invasion, at least lore-wise.

[El Bandito]

Archon, on 09 September 2014 - 12:18 AM, said:

L: Cougar
M: Viper
H: Hellbringer
A: Man O' War or Executioner; reason being there's an 80 and 95 ton IS mech but not an 80 or 95 ton clan mech yet. I would love the Kodiak but given the controversy around the Direwolf I doubt we'll see another 100 ton clan mech soon. The Man O' War and Executioner were also more prominent during the Clan invasion, at least lore-wise.

No Hellbringer. Cause Hellbringer comes with anti-personnel pods, which is useless in MWO.

Edited by El Bandito, 09 September 2014 - 12:29 AM.

[Ozric]

Vulture before Loki, the Mechwarrior spirits will allow nothing else.

But I had passed out by this part of the town hall, can anybody confirm for me if these will be released as another straight up Clan pack or individually?

Edit: No worries actually, I found the part of the recoding eventually.

Edited by Ozric, 09 September 2014 - 01:05 AM.

[STEF_]

1: whatever
2: SHADOWCAT
3: Hellbringer (with ecm, of course)
4: whatever

but of course, I'll wait for C-Bills version, UNLESS PGI decides to keep old promises.

edit: I'll take a shadowcat even without masc.
and hellbringer as well... no antipersonel pods, who cares?

Edited by Stefka Kerensky, 09 September 2014 - 12:48 AM.

[sabujo]

I am sure Hellbringer will be on this wave because it is probably the cheapest mech to build since they hhave the parts already done for the Summoner. I am not seeing PGI losing this oportunity or postponing it. That said, I bet that the pack Heavy will be the Vulture (because it's more popular than Hellbringer and could boost sales better) and the 5th mech will be Hellbringer.

Since they are only making a 4 mech pack, and since the most requested mechs are two heavies, this seems the most logical thing to do not only in a community perspective but also from a business standpoint.

[jaxjace]

El Bandito, on 08 September 2014 - 10:09 PM, said:

Then I'd prefer Kodiak. Same 400XL engine as Gargoyle, but far more useful.

they stated previously the clans would get no battlemechs only omnis, so that leaves out the kodiak. however I hope they say **** it and do it anyway.

[Reitrix]

Roland, on 08 September 2014 - 09:44 PM, said:

"After the clans, we're totally gonna be re-focusing our efforts on gameplay and bug fixes, and our art assets will go back to making maps....

...But while you wait for those stuff, HOW ABOUT BUYING SOME MORE CLAN MECHS?"


Come on folks. Come on.

They could quite possibly simply be Clan 'Mechs that were not *quite* ready for launch with the others. Meaning, almost done, just needed finishing touches etc.

It was stated somewhere that the 'Mech creation was actually quite far ahead of the rest of development.

In the end, no longer paying IGP lets more of the revenue generated from such a sale go directly into MWO's development.
Also, there is nothing stopping them from running a Clan Reinforcement Pack alongside an Inner Sphere Defenders pack.

Lastly, the team behind making and pushing out 'Mechs is most likely not the same team of Devs who build gameplay features and bug fixes.

[Khan Warlock Kell]

My dream pack even tho I know it wont happen.

Cougar
Shadow cat
Ebon Jaguar
Stone Rhino

bonus mech Vulture

[CyborgDragon]

El Bandito, on 09 September 2014 - 12:28 AM, said:

No Hellbringer. Cause Hellbringer comes with anti-personnel pods, which is useless in MWO.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the a-pods weigh .5 tons each and take up all the leg crit slots right? If so they could just slap a DHS in each leg instead. Sure it wouldn't be 'pure stock', but it wouldn't break anything... and I want a Hellbringer :c

[Reitrix]

Carrie Harder, on 08 September 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

The Gargoyle would be nearly useless in MWO. It would have 19.5 tons of pod space after maxing its armor, or I guess you could strip down 0.5 tons of armor to bring your pod space up to 20 tons. An 80 ton mech, with 20 tons of weaponry...think about that for a second. For reference, a 55 ton Shadow Hawk can have up to 26.5-27 tons of "pod space" available. Lol.

Oh, and its hardpoints are bad too, so you can't even boat lasers with it to make up for the lack of tonnage.

A 55 Ton Shadowhawk also gives up survivability due to an IS XL Engine. Reaches roughly the same speed as the Gargoyle but has significantly less Armor.
You also have to consider Clan tech in there and it's weight savings. CUAC20/CLB20 + 6 ERMLs is actually a decent brawler.
Theres also nothing stopping them from inflating its hardpoints a little.