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#1301 Iyica de Tylmarande

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 06:33 AM

View PostLeopardo, on 05 October 2014 - 11:07 PM, said:

Dudes i have 1 question - what you think about Koshi ? will it be a good mech? i think with speed tweek it will run 130?
Aside from having ECM, it looks quite bad.

View PostMarsAtlas, on 01 October 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

The more I look at Wave 2, the more I salivate. The Misy Lynx and Ice Ferret are more appealing to me everyday. The Hellbringer is my favourite Clan mech, hands down, and its vanilla Prime variant is probably one of the best vanilla Clan variants in MWO. The Gargoyle, I'm anxious about, worried about its viability next to the Summoner and Timberwolf, especially with its speed emphasis but lack of jump jets. Its also sorely lacking in regards to hardpoints, with the only torso hardpoint being a single energy hardpoint in the center torso of the Prime variant. If I decide to buy, it'll almost certainly stop at the Hellbringer.
From stats alone, the Gargoyle is fine IMO. The real test to its viability is how its hitboxes turn out and its size scale.

Edited by Iyica de Tylmarande, 07 October 2014 - 06:33 AM.


#1302 Cimarb

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 06:45 AM

View PostIyica de Tylmarande, on 07 October 2014 - 06:33 AM, said:

Aside from having ECM, it looks quite bad.
From stats alone, the Gargoyle is fine IMO. The real test to its viability is how its hitboxes turn out and its size scale.

I expect it to be almost exactly the same size as the Atlas, and the hitboxes will probably be almost identical too.

#1303 SgtMagor

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:59 AM

yup yup, MOW looks like an 80ton Atlas.

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 10:34 AM

View PostKevjack, on 06 October 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

The Primes will have the (I) and be uncustomizable.

They'll eventually sell you the faction colors for the other mechs like all other camos.


Aware of that part. I was hoping they'd give us the Invasion skin for the Primes as an option, and let us apply the faction skins to our non-prime Omnis from Wave 1.

For such a hardcore Dav, I sure am excited about the Clan hardware.... at least until my beloved Bushwacker shows up...

#1305 Cimarb

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:01 PM

View PostSgtMagor, on 07 October 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

yup yup, MOW looks like an 80ton Atlas.

I guess It will actually be the size of the Awesome, but proportioned like the Atlas - likely as tall as the Battlemaster, but a tad slimmer. Forgot it was only 80 tons, lol...

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 01:53 PM

View PostUminix, on 06 October 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

I don't see anywhere that says the prime will not be an invasion mech with the unique blah blah blah, maybe you are just mistaken, and I would be willing to bet that before it is all said and done, you can acquire the camo for all your mechs, but don't expect them to just give it away< @ Hawk and Phearless

Maybe, it would be even better to get PGI in the thread and let us know what's up, like your questions, plus the ones others have posed, like when can we expect to pick our faction content, when will our preorder premium time come in (not the early-bird 30days, but my Ice Ferret had 7 days, but I did not get that, only the 30 day reward)

I know there are alot of questions on this thread that need answers, but rather than even attempt to shine us on, the Town Hall was about what has been with little of what is to come... Answers guys.... We all need answers from PGI... we are all proud of your work since the split, keep it up before it ends up like before and you start angering everyone again
Wave 2 Pack Primes will be lettered variants, most likely (I) like the Mad Dog.

Faction content will be available in Dec? (says on wave 2 page).
I would assume then is when you choose.

I think you get your premium time when the Mech is injected, though. (this could be wrong, I'm just going from memory)

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 01:47 PM

I seriously hate this business strategy. I'll be waiting a while for the Mad Dog.

#1308 Ovion

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 01:52 PM

View PostChris Brinzo, on 14 October 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

I seriously hate this business strategy. I'll be waiting a while for the Mad Dog.
It's something like Dec/Jan/Feb when it'll be out for MC/Cbills (I forget which), so it's hardly that long.
2-3 months.

#1309 Cimarb

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 03:58 PM

View PostChris Brinzo, on 14 October 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

I seriously hate this business strategy. I'll be waiting a while for the Mad Dog.

View PostOvion, on 14 October 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

It's something like Dec/Jan/Feb when it'll be out for MC/Cbills (I forget which), so it's hardly that long.
2-3 months.

It will be released for MC on December16th, when the first of the Wave II mechs is rewarded. Two weeks later for cbills, I believe.

But, to be honest, I think whining about the wait is a horrible attitude. If you want it earlier, support the game just like the rest of us. Otherwise, wait over in the corner and enjoy your free ride.

#1310 Ozzy Stormlight

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 04:10 PM

View PostCimarb, on 14 October 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

It will be released for MC on December16th, when the first of the Wave II mechs is rewarded. Two weeks later for cbills, I believe.

But, to be honest, I think whining about the wait is a horrible attitude. If you want it earlier, support the game just like the rest of us. Otherwise, wait over in the corner and enjoy your free ride.



yup.
as always w/this game, if you want it now , you pay for it now.
I wanted in early on closed beta, phoenix project, clan collection, and wave II, and i paid for them, ( i had to beg, borrow, and steal, but i got them) and have no regrets doing so. ( 'cause im a die hard :P )
i have been very satisfied w/what i have purchased and use it to the point of abuse . ( MWAHAHAHAHHA!!)

so, have you ever bought anything for this game??

#1311 Rogen

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 12:35 AM

Well i really hope that they will give clan faction pack to A la carte mech purchases. Is there any mention to this topic?

#1312 Golden Vulf

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 01:18 AM

Is my Gargoyle Prime (I) going to be forced to wear Jade Falcon emblems even if I'm representing Ghost Bear in CW? Or are we getting the generic yellow and neon green patterns again?

Also, these faction patterns. Do these only work on the non-prime version, and if I want to use it on a prime version, do I have to purchase a non invasion prime again once they become available? Or since those won't be pre-ordered mechs, I'll never be able to use faction patterns on Prime Variants? So only 8 of the 12 mechs can be used with the Faction Patterns?

#1313 Rushin Roulette

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 01:58 AM

View PostGolden Vulf, on 15 October 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

Is my Gargoyle Prime (I) going to be forced to wear Jade Falcon emblems even if I'm representing Ghost Bear in CW? Or are we getting the generic yellow and neon green patterns again?

It says in the description for the clan Faction content for the Gargoyle Package, that you get the choice of 4 clan contents (out of the choice of 4 means you get all of them). ON top of that regarding the patterns "Clan Patterns for the included mechs". This means you get all patterns for all 12 mechs (plus the pattern for the dissapearing parrot "Polly gone" for all these mechs if you order"ed" on time)

#1314 TamerSA

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 03:23 AM

Posted this somewhere else, but I'm bumping this here as well in the hopes that PGI notice :ph34r:

I did not check the forums to see if someone already suggested it...

But today I was thinking.... with the King Crab coming and the Black Knight popping up in the poll...
Wouldn't it be a good idea to do a Clan Buster themed package?

Or at least some Clan Buster themed hero variants would be pretty nice for where we're at with CW coming up...
Yes I know I'm a Clan Loyalist, but I think it would set the stage.

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 06:43 AM

View PostRogen, on 15 October 2014 - 12:35 AM, said:

Well i really hope that they will give clan faction pack to A la carte mech purchases. Is there any mention to this topic?

I am not quite sure what you mean, so hard to answer. Do you want the package benefits for ala carte purchase? If that is what you mean, the answer is no, as that is the point of purchasing the package over the ala carte mechs. You do receive the monthly bonuses, but not the package bonuses.

#1316 Golden Vulf

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 11:38 AM

Yeah, clan wave 1 had some additional benefits if you purchased the packages instead of alacartes. The warhorns and modules and such. Faction Pack content is similar in that regard it would seem. It just happens to be displayed more prominently than the bonus stuff from the packages in wave 1, probably because it is a lot cooler.

Now if they offered Faction packs as alacarte items themselves...

Perhaps when CW comes out, they'll release a Faction Packs for each clan (maybe even different Wolf, Falcon etc ones representing different units) and each of the Major Inner Sphere houses or prominent units such as the Federated Commonwealth "1st Kathil Uhlans" or the mercenary "Northwind Highlanders."

That way you could color up several different mechs, but I guess you'd still have to purchase camo patterns individually, unless they decide to change that for the packs.

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 12:48 PM

View PostRushin Roulette, on 15 October 2014 - 01:58 AM, said:

It says in the description for the clan Faction content for the Gargoyle Package, that you get the choice of 4 clan contents (out of the choice of 4 means you get all of them). ON top of that regarding the patterns "Clan Patterns for the included mechs". This means you get all patterns for all 12 mechs (plus the pattern for the dissapearing parrot "Polly gone" for all these mechs if you order"ed" on time)

not sure this is correct, if I am assuming correctly, the prime variants are invasion mechs with non changeable camo specs, the clan and polygon camos would only be available on the non-primes. Everywhere I have seen says this:

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Q: What is the difference between a Prime and Standard Variant?
A: The Prime Variant of each Clan Collection Mech gives a 30% C-Bill Boost. Standard Variants do not have this boost. The Prime Variant also comes with a unique paint pattern that cannot be changed, nor can it be acquired for other Mechs.

from this page: http://mwomercs.com/...ons-wave-2-faq/

So I would say no, the preordered primes are invasion primes and are unique in every way

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 02:32 PM

View PostRushin Roulette, on 15 October 2014 - 01:58 AM, said:

It says in the description for the clan Faction content for the Gargoyle Package, that you get the choice of 4 clan contents (out of the choice of 4 means you get all of them). ON top of that regarding the patterns "Clan Patterns for the included mechs". This means you get all patterns for all 12 mechs (plus the pattern for the dissapearing parrot "Polly gone" for all these mechs if you order"ed" on time)


Nice! Do you by chance know when we get to choose the colors? Woot!!!!

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 02:42 PM

View PostUminix, on 15 October 2014 - 12:48 PM, said:

not sure this is correct, if I am assuming correctly, the prime variants are invasion mechs with non changeable camo specs, the clan and polygon camos would only be available on the non-primes. Everywhere I have seen says this:


from this page: http://mwomercs.com/...ons-wave-2-faq/

So I would say no, the preordered primes are invasion primes and are unique in every way


wierd... I can get different paint patters on my DW prime... However, not all of them. My brother has a cool skeletor looking one on his DW-B, but I couldn't seem to find it for the prime. So I would say Yes & No. Sorry I wish I had a better answer for you. =]

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 02:45 PM

View PostSandtiger, on 15 October 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:


wierd... I can get different paint patters on my DW prime... However, not all of them. My brother has a cool skeletor looking one on his DW-B, but I couldn't seem to find it for the prime. So I would say Yes & No. Sorry I wish I had a better answer for you. =]

Is your prime an (I)nvasion model?
(I) marked mechs you cannot change the pattern on

DWF-PRIME you can
DWF-PRIME (I) you cannot

Edit: I see you have the pack - but ya never know, some people DO buy multiples of variants :rolleyes:

Edited by Shar Wolf, 15 October 2014 - 02:45 PM.






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