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[Livewyr]

I think the simplest change that could be bought by the most would be this:

ECM prevents target sharing rather than target locks.

It is pretty simple, the only thing that changes is that you can target/lock the mech that is carrying ECM if YOU have line of sight. (Your buddies cannot see what you are targeting..and therefore cannot fire LRM IDF off of you, unless you are using TAG or something.)

No more LoS stealth, no more having to carry extra equipment to use your LRMs at all in an ECM environment...that would be a HUGE step towards balance for ECM.

[Ertur]

Lyoto Machida, on 15 September 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

Lol...ok. I'm guessing you think PGI just arbitrarily picked a few random mechs to throw ECM on and then forgot about giving the other 100+ mechs out there ECM hardpoints, right? Has nothing to do with their flawed implementation of it?

I know the Raven and Cicada have ECM because it's straight out of lore that those variants have it. (Lore is the fictional history behind the game, sometimes it's called 'canon.') I don't know how the other mechs were picked. I don't care particularly, either. It's a limited subset of the available mechs. ECM is designed to be a limited thing. It is not everywhere because it is not meant to be everywhere.

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Why is Russ even offering up this player council idea if there are no issues with the current implementation of it?

And he specifically came back and said, loosely paraphrasing, maybe ECM isn't where the player council should start. It was in a post yesterday evening. Feel free to look for that.

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Also, you're assuming a lot just because YOU wouldn't take ECM at 1.5 tons. 1.5 tons is a IS ML and SL...if that minuscule amount of extra firepower is worth it to you, have fun with it. 1.5 tons might get you a couple kph more speed. Most sensible players I know would take the ECM over that.

I specifically said that I don't know what other people would do because I haven't talked to every single person there ever was to see what they would do. I just know that I see lots and lots of mechs each match that don't have ECM. Again, if people thought ECM was as powerful as you seem to think then there would be 9 ECM mechs on each side for every match.

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Personally, I never take AMS unless a mech has 2 or more (and even then it's not a guarantee). That's because AMS is not worth the 1.5 tons to me, since I rarely die to LRMs. If you don't see the benefit to taking ECM, that's not my problem.

Except it is, because it's not as bad as you claim it is.

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As far as BAP goes, not everyone likes to fight under 200m. Keep trolling though...I appreciate your style and effort.

What horrible people they must be to fail to do their part to stop THE MOST TERRIBLE THING IN THE UNIVERSE ZOMG. Or maybe ECM is like other things on the battlefield that can be dealt with and doesn't need extreme measures to counter.