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#261 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:24 AM

View Postcdlord, on 17 September 2014 - 10:21 AM, said:

You want to demand the firing of your elected officials?


Funny you say that as if they are incompetent enough there are procedures in place where you can remove them from office by vote.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:24 AM

View PostNicholas Carlyle, on 17 September 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:


The problem is...none of that has been proven yet, and everyone is dancing around because of their new King Crab and a bunch of words. Nothing has changed. They did this same thing earlier this year...then radio silence came again.


No, we aren't.

OK some of us are.

Most of us are seeing this as a chance that things might turn around, finally.

And I too am at work, having not played this game hardly at all in recent months, and not much overall for the last year. I might not even get that 100 matches played thing.

Again, "free stuff is nice" but it is not giving them a reprieve in and of itself. It is a gesture, an olive branch. What happens going forward is how we'll make our final judgement on this come December or so.

#263 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:25 AM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 September 2014 - 10:18 AM, said:


I can answer that though I no longer fit into that slot...

The flaming of the game and trolling of the forums becomes its own game after you stop playing the game itself. Ive done it, you can see it in my history. The game stops being fun and riling ppl up on the forums/posting on the forums becomes more fun than the game was in the first place and that **** starts to snowball fast.

so, because player A is not happy, he decides his funny is to troll and try to make player A, B, and C, who are happy, miserable?

And this seems healthy, well adjusted, and not outright dickish?

#264 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:26 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

as is discussing moderation?


Warning someone that their actions could have consequences is worse than just narcing them out to get them banned?

Id rather get the warning from another player than them go straight for the report button

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

so, because player A is not happy, he decides his funny is to troll and try to make player A, B, and C, who are happy, miserable?

And this seems healthy, well adjusted, and not outright dickish?


Hey I just said I can explain it, never did I say it was right

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 17 September 2014 - 10:27 AM.


#265 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:27 AM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 September 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:


Warning someone that their actions could have consequences is worse than just narcing them out to get them banned?

Id rather get the warning from another player than them go straight for the report button

also; great way to ignore my message by the way

selective reading and answering seems to be the flavor going on here, anyhow, yes? Also, which message am I ignoring? You pointed out a possible issue to someone, as a PSA, just reminding you to be careful yourself, if they are indeed so trigger happy.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 17 September 2014 - 10:28 AM.


#266 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

View PostHeffay, on 17 September 2014 - 10:15 AM, said:

I like that I can troll someone just by being happy.

I like MWO! Mr Mallan, how does this make you feel?

When I piss off a boss at work and he gives me a "Crap" job. I thank him, tell him the change of pace is welcome, do the job without complaint till I get to go back to my regular job. I have been Trolling with happiness for 22 years! It is very rewarding! ^_^

#267 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

selective reading and answering seems to be the flavor going on here, anyhow, yes?


Note that I deleted that when I noticed you posted about it later on. You posted the post of the reply of my post too fast

so two wrongs make a right here is what youre saying?

Then those ppl being dickish are in the right?

Cause even though I can relate to it or explain it it doesnt make them RIGHT for doing it. Youll notice how I said I no longer fit in that role as well.

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 17 September 2014 - 10:30 AM.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:30 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

and not outright dickish?


Internet... Dickish is apparently what they really mean by e sports.

#269 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:30 AM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 September 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:


Hey I just said I can explain it, never did I say it was right

Oh, I never said you did, defended it, etc.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:30 AM

View PostNicholas Carlyle, on 17 September 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:


Good

Fluff

Terribly implemented

Crap

New counters to ECM? Seriously? lol

Crap

First game I've played that went into release THEN added unit creation.

And they added some major desync issues on top of all of that.


Uh-uh. No. Wrong. You're changing goalposts. A while ago you said they did NOTHING. Now you're conveniently jumping to a new argument without acknowledging you were mistaken with the first one.

Additionally, a lot of people don't share your opinion that the other stuff is crap or fluff, so stop trying to put it beyond debate.

#271 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:30 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:17 AM, said:

I actually agree with you, but what I have found is many who have "legit" issues, still have fallen into this category. And simply cannot see it for themselves.

And gamers, well, we seem to be an entitled lot, to begin with, for some dang reason, lol.


Maybe he needs to watch more kitten videos at his cozy 70 degree bright office? Kittens make me happy.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:31 AM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 September 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:


Note that I deleted that when I noticed you posted about it later on. You posted the post of the reply of my post too fast

so two wrongs make a right here is what youre saying?

Then those ppl being dickish are in the right?

depends on what you define as the "second wrong", I suppose?

Also, let's see, how did you phrase it? "Hey I just said I can explain it, never did I say it was right", kind of fits this too. NEver said it was right, but also kinda pointing out, that when party A is consistently cherrypick sign and ignoring the relevant, than the only point in replying at all, would indeed be simply to return the favor.

Certainly not a second wrong being a right. Fighting fire with fire seldom has a positive effect.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 17 September 2014 - 10:33 AM.


#273 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:33 AM

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View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

depends on what you define as the "second wrong", I suppose?


Second wrong would be selective reading in the face of selective reading unless I read your comment wrong

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:36 AM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 September 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

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Second wrong would be selective reading in the face of selective reading unless I read your comment wrong

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STACKPOLE KITTEH

cuteness factor reaching point of no return, must enforce containment procedures......
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#275 Sandpit

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:36 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

so, because player A is not happy, he decides his funny is to troll and try to make player A, B, and C, who are happy, miserable?

And this seems healthy, well adjusted, and not outright dickish?

Welll..... bit of an oversimplification in a lot of examples.

Player A is angry and tries to express that.
Player B who is happy trounces on the thread and dismisses and belittles their thoughts.

and vice versa

Players A is happy and tries to express that.
Players B is unhappy and trounces on the thread and dismisses and belittles their thoughts.

To try and paint it as simply being "angry people are trolls" is a bit disingenuous at best and the same goes for labeling anyone not unhappy as a cheerleader. there's extreme PoVs from both sides.

On top of that, there's often a lot of miscommunication and misunderstanding. English not being the first language for all lends to that as well. You also have people who just aren't very articulate or let their emotional state add into ideas that, at the core, are actually really good feedback.

Both sides pounce just as quickly as the other does.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:38 AM

View PostSandpit, on 17 September 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

Welll..... bit of an oversimplification in a lot of examples.

Player A is angry and tries to express that.
Player B who is happy trounces on the thread and dismisses and belittles their thoughts.

and vice versa

Players A is happy and tries to express that.
Players B is unhappy and trounces on the thread and dismisses and belittles their thoughts.

To try and paint it as simply being "angry people are trolls" is a bit disingenuous at best and the same goes for labeling anyone not unhappy as a cheerleader. there's extreme PoVs from both sides.

On top of that, there's often a lot of miscommunication and misunderstanding. English not being the first language for all lends to that as well. You also have people who just aren't very articulate or let their emotional state add into ideas that, at the core, are actually really good feedback.

Both sides pounce just as quickly as the other does.

oh, believe me, I know there are happy trolls.
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:39 AM

View PostSandpit, on 17 September 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:


(past) mechwarrior buddah is angry and tries to express that.
Heffay who is happy trounces on the thread and dismisses and belittles their thoughts.

and vice versa

Heffay is happy and tries to express that.
(past) mechwarrior buddah is unhappy and trounces on the thread and dismisses and belittles their thoughts.



LOL

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Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 17 September 2014 - 10:40 AM.


#278 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:42 AM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 September 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:


LOL

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are happy cats moderatable?
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:48 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 September 2014 - 10:42 AM, said:

are happy cats moderatable?
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If so;

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:53 AM

I am a dog person. -cough-





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