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[Dark DeLaurel]

I am sure a few others had a hard time reading this so here it is until it can get fixed.
http://mwomercs.com/...cil-next-steps/

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Obviously over the past week I have been reading through many council related posts including a very lengthy 68 page one. I have also noticed no shortage of ECM specific posts which has led into conversations in almost every other aspect of MWO.

As you know I have also been involved in talking with many of the forums banned players. I have enjoyed speaking with some of the strongest "characters" in the community and welcoming them back. During this process there was a lot of expression of hope but also a continued desire to understand more of the history and circumstances surrounding the last 2.5 years.

Earlier this evening an idea was forming in my head when it was driven home by a few more posts. I realized how difficult it was going to be to have any success in working together as a community on until I provide more contexts. In order to do that we will need to arrange for a series of town hall meetings:

Topics to be covered in roughly the appropriate order:

- The last 2.5 years of development and the relationship between PGI and IGP in as much detail as is appropriate.
- ECM
- 3PV
- Heat Scale
- UI 2.0
- Etc.

Yes it will take a couple of months to get through this process and bring everyone up to speed on all the happenings in these moments in time, but the timing is good with the development team focused on CW phase 2.

I will start to work on a plan to deliver these town hall meetings.

[Kiiyor]

They just keep making me want to spend money, at the moment.

Sigh. I -guess- I might be able to make you work, Gargoyle, despite your fat head.

Keep it up PGI. I really respect this communication. While I understand that it may be hard to rebuild some of the more decimated virtual bridges, you're very much on the right path.

[Lord Perversor]

Dark DeLaurel, on 18 September 2014 - 12:50 AM, said:

I am sure a few others had a hard time reading this so here it is until it can get fixed.
http://mwomercs.com/...cil-next-steps/

He probably just posted it and it's still editing it

on the meanwhile Left control + mousewheel should do the trick for future issues

[Sadist Cain]

Well played Mr Bullock sir, Well played.

Can't wait to see the cards though...

[Dark DeLaurel]

Lord Perversor, on 18 September 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

He probably just posted it and it's still editing it

on the meanwhile Left control + mousewheel should do the trick for future issues

Yea not everyone knows the ctrl+mouse wheel trick I do because I use excel a lot ha.

[Grantham Besat]

You know i left right Right when the game wewhen live and came back when the clans hit. I was worried I came back to find the game almost dead. Thanks for trying to save it.

[Curccu]

You could also push your CTRL key and scroll your mouse wheel up to zoom the page?

[Lily from animove]

3PV is ok, its not an issue, and really isn't much of an advantage, it is if anythign even more worse to use. But I like to use it soemtimes when we travel a longer distance on alpine and enjoy seing my own mech walking around. The Nova has some very nice way how the mech shaking the Sidetorsi and arms. I love seeing this.

[Lord Perversor]

Lily from animove, on 18 September 2014 - 01:26 AM, said:

3PV is ok, its not an issue, and really isn't much of an advantage, it is if anythign even more worse to use. But I like to use it soemtimes when we travel a longer distance on alpine and enjoy seing my own mech walking around. The Nova has some very nice way how the mech shaking the Sidetorsi and arms. I love seeing this.

I think russ just made a Resumee of the issues who raised more conflict/angst/discussion with the playerbase back in the day even if they are largely ignored now or take as granted.

It's pretty much what looks like a fully sincere attempt to be way more clear and communicative like in the old Closed beta days ..

P.s: i too luv to see my mech from the outside striding around a pity i can't rotate the camera but it's a lesser evil i know for game balance.

[Dark DeLaurel]

Lily from animove, on 18 September 2014 - 01:26 AM, said:

3PV is ok, its not an issue, and really isn't much of an advantage, it is if anythign even more worse to use. But I like to use it soemtimes when we travel a longer distance on alpine and enjoy seing my own mech walking around. The Nova has some very nice way how the mech shaking the Sidetorsi and arms. I love seeing this.

On a big widescreen monitor it can give quite the advantage in seeing your surroundings. Below is a link that is 5760x1200
http://www.clanhells...1_38_37_522.jpg

Lord Perversor, on 18 September 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

P.s: i too luv to see my mech from the outside striding around a pity i can't rotate the camera but it's a lesser evil i know for game balance.

That fancy spectator mode we have seen used in the tournaments would be perfect jump into a private match and BAM!

[El Bandito]

I really wish the Council gets formed already and discuss the ECM.

Personally I advocate solutions similar to this one presented by Livewyr, for its simplicity.

http://mwomercs.com/...rofound-change/

Edited by El Bandito, 18 September 2014 - 01:41 AM.

[Jacob Side]

While the additional town halls are a great idea, we need to more forward with picking the council members.

[Empyrus]

Lily from animove, on 18 September 2014 - 01:26 AM, said:

3PV is ok, its not an issue, and really isn't much of an advantage, it is if anythign even more worse to use. But I like to use it soemtimes when we travel a longer distance on alpine and enjoy seing my own mech walking around. The Nova has some very nice way how the mech shaking the Sidetorsi and arms. I love seeing this.

No, it is not OK.
We were promised it would not be added.
They added it anyway.
They promised hardcore playlist.
We didn't get it.
And the ******* game has 3rd person view as default option.
**** that.

[IsaAurinkoinen]

Dear Empyrus.

Would it be better just stop provoking yourself to hatred and move on. Recognizes that many of you have lost perspective and you will make the matter far too big a number to it in relation to what about it will affect the game. Just forget the 3pv and enjoy the game.

[Bigbacon]

i'd rather them put all efforts on CW then other random things.

[TexAce]

Empyrus, on 18 September 2014 - 03:27 AM, said:

No, it is not OK.
We were promised it would not be added.
They added it anyway.
They promised hardcore playlist.
We didn't get it.
And the ******* game has 3rd person view as default option.
**** that.

you mad, bro?

3PV is a non-topic for me, might also cancel that topic completely and make a special one only for Ghost Heat.

Man, I would like to see a conversation on that

My list on topics would rather be:

Ghost Heat
ECM
Map development
Command Console - C3 (current situation is a band aid)
Heat and DHS in General
Hardpoints / XL engines

Edited by TexAss, 18 September 2014 - 05:21 AM.

[Tombstoner]

Bigbacon, on 18 September 2014 - 05:04 AM, said:

i'd rather them put all efforts on CW then other random things.

Companies don't always have that luxury. resources free up or cant be applied to CW then what do you do with them. You assign them as best you can. Some issue cant be resolves by throwing more money or people. both are limited. you might only have one or two people technically capable of working on net code and those programers should never be let near an art program.

[xengk]

Dark DeLaurel, on 18 September 2014 - 01:34 AM, said:

On a big widescreen monitor it can give quite the advantage in seeing your surroundings. Below is a link that is 5760x1200
http://www.clanhells...1_38_37_522.jpg

Money is OP! PLS NERF MONEY!

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That fancy spectator mode we have seen used in the tournaments would be perfect jump into a private match and BAM!

If your connection lags out bad enough, you can unlock Observer Mode

[Hoax415]

Why don't we test out polling the community because the order those 5 issues are in seems all wrong and I'd hope the MWO community could see which of those 5 are most important to talk about.

#1 Heatscale.
Thats a problem with the game, that effects gameplay that can be fixed and should be much less complex to talk about and fix than ECM.

#2 ECM.
Again a gameplay problem that should be top priority. I think Heatscale is a bit less complex and more important but I 100% understand if someone feels ECM should be #1 and Heatscale #2.

#3 3PV, Personally I think most have moved on. It was a **** thing to do against the communities wishes but whatever. The only thing worth discussing is should CW be 1PV only? Its the HARDCORE RP version of the game according to Russ. But we don't need a townhall for that. That's a simple council suggestion or just PGI doing their own jobs thing.

#4 UI2.0. I think this is a waste of time. Surely PGI knows how much it sucks. Its not like its hard to see its flaws. If they could have made a better UI they would have. We got the best they could make. What's there to talk about?

#5 IGP and PGI. I don't care. Lets move on. If IGP was the problem then that will be obvious when things actually change and we see maps getting made and screenshots of all this work supposedly done on CW. The increased communication is great, if that's because IGP isn't in the picture good riddance. This is by far the lowest priority thing we could spend time talking about.

Edited by Hoax415, 18 September 2014 - 07:59 AM.

[N a p e s]

Kiiyor, on 18 September 2014 - 12:54 AM, said:

They just keep making me want to spend money, at the moment.

I hear ya man...