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[wanderer]

Just remember: PGI's staff have finite capacity. Every new Mech will push anything that is not another giant robot further down the line of priorities, meaning the rest of the game will become staler by comparison.

No. We have dozens of chassis already on the map for the IS. We need more places to play with the ones we already have, not a focus on dumping more into the market.

[SweetJackal]

wanderer, on 19 September 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Just remember: PGI's staff have finite capacity. Every new Mech will push anything that is not another giant robot further down the line of priorities, meaning the rest of the game will become staler by comparison.

No. We have dozens of chassis already on the map for the IS. We need more places to play with the ones we already have, not a focus on dumping more into the market.

Unfortunately this is where you are wrong. With the divisions put into the new map making process the only thing that pushing more mechs "into the pipeline" will delay is different mechs that are still in concept and design.

A backlog for that section of the art team might delay visual customization options for existing mechs such as new paint jobs, metallic colors, proper weapon visualization or even mechs that are technically announced but are still being crafted. Those are things that could get bumped back if a new IS Pack was set for preorder Monday with the release of the mechs Sometime Next Year.

What won't be delayed? Anything dealing with Game Design or Mechanics. So Game Modes, CW, Role Warfare, Balance Changes, the IS Mech Quirk Pass, Official Events, or literally anything else not directly related to Mech Artwork.

Why? Because the resources used for making new mechs cannot be used for those things that I just said couldn't be delayed. Just as any other resources being poured into mech assets will not help out. Coders don't do Artwork, Artists don't do Coding.

[DAYLEET]

The mech pack offered a discount on everything, it was a good way to support pgi while getting more for your money. You didnt buy squat, you dont get squat, how hard is that to understand. KingCrab will be out for MC, buy it then, maybe next year you get the right to a free mech.

[Gremlich Johns]

Why not a pack similar to the Sabre Reinforcements. Invasion Response Reinforcement, or some such. Two mechs and two variants each.

And while I'm wishing, make those two mechs the Bushwacker and Avatar (or Argus) (yeah, I know, not timeline, but hey....)

How about the Crusader and a redesigned Warhammer?

[Soul Tribunal]

Given the likes you have received that should be a good enough investment to get started.
The key is, which Mech?
So many we cannot have yet....
I would pay, and I bet a multiude would pay for a Bushwacker Package

-ST

[HlynkaCG]

There were 20+ pages by the time I got to this thread so I apologize if this has already been suggested.

I understand why you would be reluctant to re release Founders or Phoenix packs. I also suspect that expecting a package of entirely new mechs before the December deadline is a bit unrealistic. As such I would like to suggest "Loyalist Packs".

There would be 6 packs, 1 for each inner sphere nation. Each pack consist of one mech of each weight class, with three variants apiece. Along with some faction-specific goodies similar to the Faction-specific content that you guys have bundled with Clan Wave 2.

ETA
Example:
Capellan Loyalist Pack:
Light Mech: Raven 3L + 2 Variants
Medium Mech: Vindicator 1R + 2 Variants
Heavy Mech: Cataphract 1X + 2 Variants
Assault Mech: Stalker 3F + 2 Variants

Special Cappellan-themed camo-spec + colors
House Liao Cockpit item or warhorn of some sort.
Loyalty Point and/or CBill bonus for piloting above mechs if your player faction is set to Liao

Edited by HlynkaCG, 19 September 2014 - 04:21 PM.

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

I am with most people. if this does not hold up the rest of what is needed for the game. Then go for it.

[Ninja Daddy]

I'm a new player.- signed up for the forums in 2012 but never played until this year.
I wasn't around when these IS packs were on sale.
I don't want to play Clan mechs.
I want to play IS mechs. I'd like to get the Limited Edition King Crab.

I'll pay $80 for an IS package. Sell it to me now. Give me my KC in December deliver the package next year when it is ready.

Seems simple.

J--

Edited by Ninja Daddy, 19 September 2014 - 05:10 PM.

[Squally160]

I vote either loyalist packages for each IS faction. with fancy shmancy paint I can blast of them,

OR

Why not do a bundled hero mech pack for 80$? Pick a few heros and throw them together. Would be a great starter pack for new players that could be sold year-round or some such.

[Sandpit]

IS Loyalty Pack

Pack 1 = Light hero mech,
Pack 2 = Medium
Pack 3 - heavy
Pack 4 = assault

Slap 2 standard variants in with the hero mech, add in some premium time, throw in a few MC, top it off with a "Better late than never" banner cockpit item, no new stuff needed, no founder or PP reactivation, and gives those IS players unlucky enough to miss the previous packs a chance to get that KC. It also gets them the "purchase MC bonus" as well.

Players would buy it just to get the rewards and the bonus stuff tossed in. Purchase 1 ala carte if they want or purchase all 4 in a bundle (or 2 in a bundle, or 3, just like all the other packs have worked) and PGI has a chunk of revenue, players have the ability to get in on the bday deal, and everyone is happy. It doesn't require PGI to divert resources from other ares (Looking at you maps and CW) because they're just "rebranding" the mechs into a pack for players.

[Ghogiel]

SuckyJack, on 19 September 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

Unfortunately this is where you are wrong. With the divisions put into the new map making process the only thing that pushing more mechs "into the pipeline" will delay is different mechs that are still in concept and design.

A backlog for that section of the art team might delay visual customization options for existing mechs such as new paint jobs, metallic colors, proper weapon visualization or even mechs that are technically announced but are still being crafted. Those are things that could get bumped back if a new IS Pack was set for preorder Monday with the release of the mechs Sometime Next Year.

What won't be delayed? Anything dealing with Game Design or Mechanics. So Game Modes, CW, Role Warfare, Balance Changes, the IS Mech Quirk Pass, Official Events, or literally anything else not directly related to Mech Artwork.

Why? Because the resources used for making new mechs cannot be used for those things that I just said couldn't be delayed. Just as any other resources being poured into mech assets will not help out. Coders don't do Artwork, Artists don't do Coding.

Granted artists won't write anything besides high level code.
But getting switched from character design to environment design to level design as needed is fairly common place for artists in the industry. If you can't do that you are either and intern or at the least a junior position and should be wanting to jump in and get experience on that. So yeah maps yo.

[Naduk]

a new IS pack or nothing at all (i still suggest a Comstar call to arms pack)
the only fair options
people can get their mech any way the dice land
a new pack can take a long time to arrive, just like overlord did and just like clans did, it would be a preorder like any other russ

i find it crazy that people are making so much noise about this
people are acting like the reward receivers are the only people who will ever receive the king crab
its just not so

Edited by Naduk, 19 September 2014 - 05:54 PM.

[Raide Six]

Don't know why people keep stating "so long as it dosn't affect CW or more maps" it's right on the first page:

Russ Bullock, on 18 September 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:

Excellent Question that I knew would come up quickly.

No at this point with the new Map production process it would not effect the production of Maps or CW, however no I do not believe we could get this done by the same Dec 16th deadline. If there was interest we would need to meet and schedule internally but it would almost certainly need to slip into the new year guessing a date beyond that would be irresponsible at this point.

[Griggio]

Ninja Daddy, on 19 September 2014 - 05:08 PM, said:

I'm a new player.- signed up for the forums in 2012 but never played until this year.
I wasn't around when these IS packs were on sale.
I don't want to play Clan mechs.
I want to play IS mechs. I'd like to get the Limited Edition King Crab.

I'll pay $80 for an IS package. Sell it to me now. Give me my KC in December deliver the package next year when it is ready.

Seems simple.

J--

So by that line of thinking I think PGI should go back and re-do all the events or hold a new special event for the ones I missed, because it's not fair that I had to work that weekend and I want the free mechbays and limited edition items and don't want to buy them for MC.

I will not be surprised in the least when Dec 16th rolls around that most of the people complaining about the KC being a Top Tier reward will be complaining that it wasn't fair that they had to shell out $80 for a mech pack and this other guy has 3 KC's he purchased for MC already mastered and rocking and rollin and you dont want to shell out more money and have to wait for C-bill release.

(Yes that was run on sentence )

Edited by Griggio, 19 September 2014 - 06:48 PM.

[Ghogiel]

SeccaBravo9, on 19 September 2014 - 05:57 PM, said:

Don't know why people keep stating "so long as it dosn't affect CW or more maps" it's right on the first page:

There there is no down side then... unless we have completely different ideas about the speed at which map production happens. Cos right now 1 a year is 4 times too slow. If it's not going to be that and/or community content in the form of maps happens, then I think we are on different pages.

[Dark DeLaurel]

MischiefSC, on 19 September 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

Again. Please. No big IS energy boats. It's a waste; they are flat out inferior to Clan energy boats. If anyone wants an unplayed IS energy boat heavy try the Thunderbolt or the Quickdraw. Nobody plays them - because IS energy boats are bad.

AC+energy or missile-heavy.

I have quite a few primary energy Inner Sphere `Mechs that would like a word with you, that do very well.

[Raide Six]

Ghogiel, on 19 September 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

There there is no down side then... unless we have completely different ideas about the speed at which map production happens. Cos right now 1 a year is 4 times too slow. If it's not going to be that and/or community content in the form of maps happens, then I think we are on different pages.

My post wasn't directed at you in particular, but after reading through a few pages, it seems many are (justifiably) concerned a new IS mech package will affect production of CW & new maps. However, Russ stated that it wouldn't and in any case a new IS mech package wouldn't be available until the new year (meaning actually delivered). PGI already have concepts for new IS mechs - so this would likely just be putting them in a package rather than releasing them one at a time.

Edited by SeccaBravo9, 19 September 2014 - 06:23 PM.

[lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol]

Russ,

Make another pack, JUST for Inner Sphere.

I don't know 100% specifics other than what is parroted in conjecture regarding seen/unseen/reseen, but I think if you could somehow bring back the Warhammer or the Marauder and even inject the Mauler... some other lights and mediums, you'd have more purchases and bring back a lot of players.

By the way, thank you for giving the Clanners Clan Specific warhorns!

[Crohnic]

A month ago I would have declined spending any more money on this game. However, given the amazing month we've had, I am now very much interested in a new IS pack.

$80 would be perfect.

But please PGI, do yourself a favor (and us too), leave this package up for sale. Why limit the options for players to spend their money?

btw... congrats on the communication this last month and thank you for the Customer Appreciation Program!

[PoLaR]

You guys build those new IS 'mechs for me and I'll buy em'.