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[TimePeriod]

Currently rolling a Grid Iron, given I piloted Hunchbacks ever since I learned of MWO. I personally love it, even when I loose the hunch I can dish out a decent amount of damage with that missile slot in the LT.

[JackPoint]

So what we're saying is there are only a couple of competitive (is) mechs still playable.

(1Light - Any ecm light
(2 Medium- Griffin Shadowhawk maybe cicada ecm variant.
(3 Heavy I can't think of one I would play
(4 Assault- Atlas-DDC, Stalker

That's the line-up for me i'm afraid.

[beerandasmoke]

Wolverine. I own one and it collects dust. Vindicators are surprisingly rare for how recently they were released.

[101011]

SpiralFace, on 21 September 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:

Gaussphracts are too slow these days. People who role in a death-ball and stay mobile just roll into them and target their torso's and its over.

T-wolves are faster, more durable, and are still deadly when they loose a torso. (At least till the XL changes come in.) Gaussphracts are really only good if the other team doesn't know what they are doing and simply remains "passive" throughout the entire engagement.

You just described the average public match pretty well, though. In an ideal scenario, the 'Phracts would be at the mid-rear lines, with the Assaults to take the brunt of the Timber Wolves. That gives a pretty solid advantage to the Spheroids, since the Clan assaults are too slow to keep up. Assuming both groups are doing the smart thing and deathballing, the Spheroids would have plenty of time to soften up the Clan forces with pinpoint damage while they sprayed lasers all over their targets.

[InspectorG]

Spider V
Hunchback J
Jenner D
Atlas D
Pretty Baby
Oxide
Grid Iron
Golden Boy
Wolverines
Dragons Flame/Fang
La Malinche

[oldradagast]

Locusts: No point at all to these mechs. They lack jumpjets or ECM, whatever speed advantage they have over other IS lights is barely noticeable, and they are fragile as glass and can't carry enough firepower to compete.

Trebuchets: The Griffin can do basically everything this mech can do with better hitboxes and mobility.

Wolverines: Not a bad mech in theory, but the variants are rather all over the place and none of them offer anything really special. Some can't mount ballistics, some have too many weapons in one arm, etc. In a vacuum - without the Shadowhawk or Griffin - they might see play. But the Griffin does missiles better, and the Shadowhawk does ballistics better, leaving the Wolverine with no real role to fill.

Kintaro: Not a bad mech, but the Griffin does missiles better with jumpjets.

Quickdraw: A heavy that is the size of an assault mech that also lacks ballistics and can't even spam LRM's thanks to small tube limits. A strong contender for worst mech in the game. As terrible as the Locust is, it is terrible mostly because of its tonnage and the fact it was never meant to fight. The Quickdraw simply has no excuse for all the failures that compose its design.

Dragons: Bad hitboxes, though at least it can mount ballistics and pack an XL engine. Not a great mech, though probably more playable than most people think... it's just that other mechs are even better.

Thuds: Generally marginal all around, though not terrible. Again, other mechs are just better, while Thuds are not terrible.

Awesomes: The weakest of the assault mechs thanks to a lack of ballistics and poor hitboxes. Still make good LRM platforms, however.

Battlemasters: Suffer from most of the problems of the Awesomes, thought at least they can mount ballistics, and 1 variant makes an excellent LRM platform.

Non-DS Victors and Highlanders: Nerfed into the ground.


Although, these days anything IS is become more and more rare on the battlefield.

Edited by oldradagast, 21 September 2014 - 06:54 AM.

[FREDtheDEAD]

Locusts and Quickdraws are really rare.The Adder is a rare sight compared to the Kitfox. Griffin isn't common. The Victor has gone from very common to rare,

[MerryIguana]

oldradagast, on 21 September 2014 - 06:46 AM, said:

Wolverines: Not a bad mech in theory, but the variants are rather all over the place and none of them offer anything really special. Some can't mount ballistics, some have too many weapons in one arm, etc. In a vacuum - without the Shadowhawk or Griffin - they might see play. But the Griffin does missiles better, and the Shadowhawk does ballistics better, leaving the Wolverine with no real role to fill.

Kintaro: Not a bad mech, but the Griffin does missiles better with jumpjets.

Totally agree on the wolv, its one advantage over the griffon was negated with the jj change (that being its amazing ability to look down while jumping).

Kintaro is amazingly durable but with so much arm mounted its kind of a wash.

[Blood Rose]

Sadly apart from my own Vengance I have only seen two other Vindicators in the past couple of weeks.

Apart from that well.... I have not seen many Locusts recently or Victors. I have seen a few Highlanders though. Trenchbuckets are a rarity but still seen and I still see Hunchbacks. Quickdraws seem to have vanished though, IDK why and Dragons are no longer seen - actually I might take mine out just to surprise people and show them what a good D can do.

Also, what the feth is a Wolverine I dont think I have ever seen one. Ever.

[TimePeriod]

Blood Rose, on 21 September 2014 - 07:14 AM, said:

Also, what the feth is a Wolverine I dont think I have ever seen one. Ever.

I saw one a few games ago, it died pretty fast.

[Remarius]

Jackpoint, on 21 September 2014 - 06:26 AM, said:

So what we're saying is there are only a couple of competitive (is) mechs still playable.

(1Light - Any ecm light
(2 Medium- Griffin Shadowhawk maybe cicada ecm variant.
(3 Heavy I can't think of one I would play
(4 Assault- Atlas-DDC, Stalker

That's the line-up for me i'm afraid.

You Sir are a strange person if you can't think of any good heavies...... ;0

Blood Rose, on 21 September 2014 - 07:14 AM, said:

Sadly apart from my own Vengance I have only seen two other Vindicators in the past couple of weeks.

Apart from that well.... I have not seen many Locusts recently or Victors. I have seen a few Highlanders though. Trenchbuckets are a rarity but still seen and I still see Hunchbacks. Quickdraws seem to have vanished though, IDK why and Dragons are no longer seen - actually I might take mine out just to surprise people and show them what a good D can do.

Also, what the feth is a Wolverine I dont think I have ever seen one. Ever.

Mastered my Vindicators and have no intention of getting back in them except maybe the St Ives and IAA (if I feel like reliving the pain).

[That Dawg]

Kitane, on 21 September 2014 - 05:16 AM, said:

Adders, Locusts, Quickdraws, Dragons

Non trial Kintaros are also rare.

My go to IS medium- Kintaro 18, its a thumper!

NextGame, on 21 September 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

you don't see bad mechs, as they are usually dumped on my team when I pug instead of yours, where they spend 3-8 minutes clowning around before getting blown up or spontaneously combusting

LOL, I hate the light show and the drone from 3rd person just begging for a blind arty strike

AUSwarrior24, on 21 September 2014 - 05:37 AM, said:

I see Battlemasters all the time. I even see Locusts quite often. This is the solo queue mind you,
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I see commandos pretty frequently, and typically they are above average players

Windsaw, on 21 September 2014 - 06:13 AM, said:

The ones I see least are Trebs. Even Locusts are much more common.

That, I see locusts all the time, trebs are one rare bird anymore.

[Blood Rose]

TimePeriod, on 21 September 2014 - 07:16 AM, said:

I saw one a few games ago, it died pretty fast.

Just after I had posted this I dropped into a game and there was one on the other team. It actually lasted throughout the match.... Mainly by hanging back and not doing much.

[Lightfoot]

Summoner, Adder, Centurion, Awesome. You saw alot of Awesomes before the PPC speed nerf, but almost none now. Those stupid nerfs have far reaching consequences to the player base.

Edited by Lightfoot, 21 September 2014 - 08:18 AM.

[BlakeAteIt]

I don't see many Vindicators. I think I've seen the hero once.

oldradagast, on 21 September 2014 - 06:46 AM, said:

Although, these days anything IS is become more and more rare on the battlefield.

Eh, CW will keep IS 'mech's around.

Edited by BlakeAteIt, 21 September 2014 - 08:26 AM.

[Dracol]

Been running my adder in solo queue for the last week and getting 10+ assists, so I get to see a lot of mechs. I've seen every mech chassis that has been listed within the past week.

Vindies are small in number considering the recent release.

Saw a surprising number of Dragons this weekend.

One thing I haven't seen in a over a week or two is a full fledged Splatapult. Closed would have been a 2 x LRM10 | 4 x SRM6 build.

Edited by Dracol, 21 September 2014 - 08:33 AM.

[Rebas Kradd]

Dragons, Trebuchets, Quickdraws, and Commandos are the only ones that are truly elusive. If you see one, it's either piloted by a total noob, or piloted by a veteran and draws 3 kills and 600 damage.

[Elizander]

Lightfoot, on 21 September 2014 - 08:15 AM, said:

Summoner, Adder, Centurion, Awesome. You saw alot of Awesomes before the PPC speed nerf, but almost none now. Those stupid nerfs have far reaching consequences to the player base.

I don't know why though. The 4xER Large Laser 9M takes some effort to overheat in even the hottest maps and if you alternate the 2 you probably won't ever shut down. The 2xER PPC 5xML 8Q will also need to put some effort into shutting down in Tera Therma and that's without an XL engine.

[FupDup]

Battlemasters, Awesomes, sorta Victors, Dragons, Quickdraws, Thunderbolts, Wolverines, Vindicators, non-ECM Cicadas. maybe Centurions, non-ECM Ravens, non-ECM Spiders, Locusts, Commandos, Adders.

[Gattsus]

r4plez, on 21 September 2014 - 05:18 AM, said:

Mad Cats

I should report you for this comment.


(lolz)

Edited by Gattsus, 21 September 2014 - 09:08 AM.