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[Brody319]

XphR, on 27 September 2014 - 09:27 PM, said:

A Betty warning for Narc is already not a bad idea. A short "Missile Beacon Detected" message could work, perhaps even have Betty take a handful of seconds to come to the conclusion the signal is externally mounted to your Mech?

I think a out of place black girl yelling "Oh S(beep)T WE NARC"d, BI(beep)CH!" would be just beautiful. The censored beeps make it funnier.

[Johnny Reb]

Foxwalker, on 27 September 2014 - 05:06 PM, said:

Considering there is a challenge going on that rewards Narc, Tag and assists, it is almost stupid right now not to carry LRMs if you don't have one of the other two equipped.

Yup, I put one lrm 5 and one ton ammo on my direwhale just for this weekend till I completed it.

[Piney II]

MWO should make a LRM whine thread a sticky.

They're a pain in the a$$ for sure, but they are meant to be and are a part of this game that you just have to learn how to deal with.

The sort of wild card like "real" battle to force a moving counter?

[Johnny Reb]

XphR, on 27 September 2014 - 09:27 PM, said:

A Betty warning for Narc is already not a bad idea. A short "Missile Beacon Detected" message could work, perhaps even have Betty take a handful of seconds to come to the conclusion the signal is externally mounted to your Mech?

Agree anything would be helpful and should be done. I at least have team members who tell me but pugs/non team members are out of luck.

Mcgral18, on 27 September 2014 - 09:28 PM, said:

Gigantic shield arms, and walking twisted away go a long way to absorb LRMs. Shoulder pads are the saviour of the WubShee.

They absorb all the damage. Unless you move over 100, I'll get you eventually. Of course, 22 tube SHD is also suited to the task, with much more fragile, and laser-ed arms.

I'm sure, just you wont get me charging if I can retreat to a safer distance is all. Also my 5 lrm5 do much better ct damage regardless of twist, though that still helps.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 27 September 2014 - 09:50 PM.

[XphR]

Brody319, on 27 September 2014 - 09:29 PM, said:

The censored beeps make it funnier.

Im all for being able to change out the Betty Persona, but I want full on voice swaps(on a per chassis basis). Also as we stumbled into BBland.. lets get a clan computer that sounds like a clan computer, they have a different HUD, its time to reel Betty back to the Inner Spheres speakers.

[Kilo 40]

Yes they do need addressing.

I propose 1600 ohnotthiscrapagain lane, vancouver bc.

[Kjudoon]

Brody319, on 27 September 2014 - 09:15 PM, said:

could stop more than it does. it seems to stop maybe 10 missiles out of every 100 launched. so that means with 10 AMSes you could stop a single volley from a single mech. I mean if it just stopped 20, putting it on would be a whole lot more worth it. I mean I gotta have like 1.5 tons for ammo and the thing itself, I could equip another ton of ammo, or a medium laser and a small laser, Give me a reason to want to use the thing. You are better off with just the magic jesus box, ECM. Just protect your nearest spider/kit fox and you won't have to worry about any missiles.

Might also lower the damage. a single LRM boat with 100 missiles can ruin everyone's day on the other team if they dont have ECM.

AMS stops 4 per volley per unit. That renders LRM5s - LRM15s completely ineffective fired singly since only 1-3 missiles get through respectively. What more can you desire? AMS is what causes boating of LRMs because they must to be effective.

As for the LRM100 scenario, that's 1.8 volleys per ton of ammo. No other weapon would be so bad. Even firing 4 cAC20s is 2.25/ton. There's no way that a single mech with that loadout can be a threat for more than a handful of mechs and therefore quickly out of the fight.

[Brody319]

XphR, on 27 September 2014 - 09:47 PM, said:

Im all for being able to change out the Betty Persona, but I want full on voice swaps(on a per chassis basis). Also as we stumbled into BBland.. lets get a clan computer that sounds like a clan computer, they have a different HUD, its time to reel Betty back to the Inner Spheres speakers.

Hey PGI, here is a fantastic way to get me to buy more MC. offer voice swaps for the computer's voice. I would gladly pay 30 dollars for my mech to sound like morgan freeman.

[Kjudoon]

Johnny Reb, on 27 September 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

If that was done I do think a Betty narc warning would be appropriate.

I would like a NARC warning anyway. Or stream of blue smoke from the part that has it on... something... ANYTHING to let us know we've been narced and plain to see.

Brody319, on 27 September 2014 - 09:59 PM, said:

Hey PGI, here is a fantastic way to get me to buy more MC. offer voice swaps for the computer's voice. I would gladly pay 30 dollars for my mech to sound like morgan freeman.

I'd so consider buying a "TheB33f" mod if that happened. My guys want me to do an Ahnold Schwartzenheimer version of Betty too.

[Johnny Reb]

I think both lrm lovers and haters would like a narc warning.

[SaltBeef]

Boo HOO!!!, Cherry Blossom and fairy sprinkles , Bambi and Moon Beams , cant we just shoot paint and color each other s mechs.

Whaaaah!

[Lightfoot]

My LRM's address is Broadway. Direct fire ACs is best, followed by lasers. Only fools die to LRMs so they are perfect, sorry to say.

[XphR]

Brody319, on 27 September 2014 - 09:59 PM, said:

Hey PGI, here is a fantastic way to get me to buy more MC. offer voice swaps for the computer's voice. I would gladly pay 30 dollars for my mech to sound like morgan freeman.

Somewhere in the mess is a thread with more Bitching Betty voice swap options people would willingly pay money for. Mr Freeman is a great idea! Personnaly I want to hear Basil Fawlty(John Cleese{even named one of my Stalkers FawltyBasil}) telling me how bad I am for overheating my Mech or letting someone send LRMs my way.

Kjudoon, on 27 September 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:

I would like a NARC warning anyway. Or stream of blue smoke from the part that has it on... something... ANYTHING to let us know we've been narced and plain to see.


I'd so consider buying a "TheB33f" mod if that happened. My guys want me to do an Ahnold Schwartzenheimer version of Betty too.

Not more coloured smoke, please no, if my narc emitted warning smoke I would hunt down its manufacturer and stop its production resources and move on to destroy their database.

Would love to hear Schwarzenegger yelling about situational events.

SaltBeef, on 27 September 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

Boo HOO!!!, Cherry Blossom and fairy sprinkles , Bambi and Moon Beams , cant we just shoot paint and color each other s mechs.

Whaaaah!

You.. may be onto something!

[Kjudoon]

SaltBeef, on 27 September 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

Boo HOO!!!, Cherry Blossom and fairy sprinkles , Bambi and Moon Beams , cant we just shoot paint and color each other s mechs.

Whaaaah!

But only enemy mechs. Mine must shoot FLAMING DEATHBALLS OF CHEWY DEATH NUGGETS OF DOOMY-DOOM THAT NEVAR MISS AND ESPLODE THEM ALL INSTANTLY!!!!!!!11!!!! BLERGIDYBLERGBLARGBLERGG!!!!!!"

Edited by Kjudoon, 27 September 2014 - 11:39 PM.

[Wolfways]

Kjudoon, on 27 September 2014 - 05:59 AM, said:

I liked it because it's funny but sadly, it's mostly true. We must take into account that they do get benefit from indirect fire and guidance, which does have intrinsic and unique value unto itself. The question would be how much does that factor in?

Indirect-fire is a benefit, but one that i couldn't care less about.

Guidance? I don't consider that a benefit in any way, but rather a necessity due to the slow missile speed and long range of the weapon (although range is mostly negated due to the arena-style maps). If missiles traveled at the speed of AC's we wouldn't need guidance...but it would look silly.

[Wolfways]

Xardos111, on 27 September 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

try it with assault mech to run away you genius....

I played a 53kph Stalker for a long time and never had a problem with LRM's.

Having said that, there are a lot more LRM's around now due to the clan launchers being light enough to make carrying one or two viable, so it's not just one or two IS LRM boats on a team anymore (if you had problems then you really are a bad pilot). Clan mechs carrying LRM's can spread out more making it easier to get hit from different directions.
I'm not saying LRM's need a nerf but maybe indirect-fire should be limited to TAG/NARC/UAV as all the different launchers spread out across the map become a big force multiplier.
They still need a big direct-fire buff or two though.

[SaltBeef]

I think we can make the QQ crowd happy if we fill our CASE with Bubbles solution and attach large Bubble makers to the arms of our mechs. Then we can giggle each other to death!

[Pika]

duragan, on 27 September 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

I am not a nub or new to the game you ignorant little man I will happily send you a screenshot evey time I get 600-1k ij a match and see how fast your inbox fills up would you like references hit up veneroso or leded both legendary
Founders ask them I am an amazing player. And how is saying build a faster mech anything but ignorant unless you have no clue how clan mechs are fit. Come back when you learn something.

I'm rather glad that you've made a public thread admitting that you're so bad at the game, you don't know how to avoid the worst weapon with the most hard counters. You've publicly shamed yourself here and then with your 'defense' you've insulted every single person who has pointed out that problem is your play style.

You came to the forums, expecting people to be all "OH YOU'RE SO RIGHT LET'S NERF THEM." and when people pointed out that, no, the problem is your own lack of piloting skill or inabillity to work as a team, you're lashing out? I bet you're the kind of person who, should they lose, instantly blames either the teams, the matchmaker, or LRMs, when you know, deep down, you're just not as good as you think you are.

You've been TOLD over and over and over again in this thread what to do. So here's what you can do:

1: Listen to the advice you've been given, pull up you big boy pants, HTFU and put those new lessons into practice.
2: Sit here and throw tantrums, complaining about how the problem is not your CLEARLY god like ability to pull irrelevant damage numbers (Means sh*t all if you die to LRMs in 40 seconds, no?).
3: Use LRMs yourself? If they're SO powerful, why don't you use every single build as an LRM boat. You seem to care so much about winning, may as well do what you claim is broke, no?
4: Rage Quit and blame the Devs\LRMS\Cheaters\Clans\IS\Maps\Water\Heat\GhostHeat\WhateverYourFaveWhineIs for being better than you.

I would rather you took option 1 I would rather when you came to these forums you realize people were trying to give you genuine advice but at the same time are sick and tired of seeing this same crap posted all the time. I hope you realize that LRMs are, BY FAR AND AWAY the worst weapon in the game and that any argument from you essentially comes across as hearing "But moooooom~"

We've all heard every excuse under the sun a thousand times before. Every single person who plays this game for more than a few weeks has this "Oh, LRMs actually suck" moment. Clearly, you haven't yet.

I hope this changes. Or if it doesn't, I at least know should I see you on the field, to just throw missiles at you. You clearly have no idea how to avoid them, so you're a very, very easy kill.

Edited by Pika, 28 September 2014 - 05:07 PM.