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[Crunk Prime]

I see people spamming their stream links like twitch and other such sites. People on my own team. People on the enemy team. All sorts of people.

Apart from it just being chat spam, who knows what those people are actually streaming at their link. Who knows if their link has any inappropriate material. Who knows what kind of language they are using on their stream.

I know I wouldnt want my kids or anybody elses following strange links around the internet because some guy in a game told them to go there. Theres no telling what type of material people may be linking to. Might as well just link people to chat roulette.

Id like people posting website links other than links to MWOs website in chat to be a reportable offense. Unless it already is an offense and I dont know that.

[Redshift2k5]

Anyone posting links is guilty until proven innocent?

If anything I think rampant twitch streaming is healthy for the game, that's a lot of free advertisement, and if they're abiding by the rules of that service (many twitch streams with mature language have a click-through advising of mature language before they start)

It sounds like you have a personal problem with links and are grasping at plausible reasons to ban them. A message posted once per match certainly doesn't seem to qualify as "spam", and there are many worse things one could say on the game chat than a twitch link.

[Viges]

Crunk Prime, on 27 September 2014 - 12:25 AM, said:

I know I wouldnt want my kids or anybody elses following strange links around the internet because some guy in a game told them to go there.

OMG TURN THE INTERNET OFF RIGHT NOW!

[Crunk Prime]

So if I make a twitch stream, and stream content that abides by the streaming sites rules, but does not fit MWOs rules or even related content, thats totally fine?

I should get right on that.

[Phex]

@ OP:
Nothing else to complain about?

[Chrithu]

No it shouldn't. There are things a lot worse than posting a link to a twitch stream in game and those are an offense and report and banable. Links in chat aren't clickable anyways so unless your kids REALLY REALLY wanna stop playing to take a note of the link and then follow that link and watch others playing the probability of them following the link is quite low. Besides: 99% of twitch links posted are links to a twitch stream of someone playing Mechwarrior Online.

And if you are so worried about what your kids do in the internet then maybe take measures yourselves. There's tons of software solutions that allow you to filter what sites your kids have access to. With a "whitelist" approach you do not even need to know the bad sites. You simply can tell the PC to only let your kids access the good sites that are on the list and ban all others. That way if your kids hear of a new site they wanna see, they come to you to ask you to take a look at it and add it to the whitelist if you allow it. This way you have full control what your kids see in the web at least from your home PC:

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Crunk Prime, on 27 September 2014 - 01:02 AM, said:

So if I make a twitch stream, and stream content that abides by the streaming sites rules, but does not fit MWOs rules or even related content, thats totally fine?

I should get right on that.

How many non MWO gameplay streams do you actually see advertised in chat?

I've seen nothing but MWO player streams

[Moonlander]

I've only ever seem MWO player streams OR the occasional clan website.

Not to mention, I RARELY see either of them... I seem them so rarely that it's usually like "Oh look" and I watch or visit it just cause... reasons...

I stream. No one watches or follows me but I do it just in-case cause reasons. There are very, very few MWO streamers out there outside of NGNG.

I don't get what the problem is.

Phex, on 27 September 2014 - 01:03 AM, said:

@ OP:
Nothing else to complain about?

^ In conclusion....

[Chrithu]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 27 September 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

I saw ppl posting their livejasmin stream link


But didnt see it in this game yet.lol

That is a reportable offense, and streams of that kind aren't allowed on twitch. The OP asking to get any posting of twitch links reportable is simply exaggerated. Links to inappropriate streams fall under the forum/chat rules the way I read them so go ahead and report those. But we shouldn't start to ban just all twitch stream posting just because the faint possibility of there being some links to unrelated or inappropriate streams being posted. That right there is where freedom of speech ends and censorship starts, and nothing good can come from it.

And as far as posting them in EVERY match while they stream: The few Streamers I have come across do it mostly to make the other players in the match aware of the fact that what they do is being streamed and recorded.

[The Basilisk]

I know what the OP means.
And I find posts like:
"Hey you are now live on twitch" without beeing asked or without deliberately signing up for such a action to be just rude and annoying !

btw why would someone stream pug games ???

So do I think posting streaming links, or doing streaming in public matches should be a punishable offense ?

YES

Edit: If you want to display MWO or your awsome skills or if you feel just pretty and flashy put up a private match with your victims of choice and do your streaming there.

Edited by The Basilisk, 27 September 2014 - 01:33 AM.

[POWR]

Such a silly topic. If you don't want your kids opening links, I suggest not letting them play this game as they're not allowed to have an account unless they are of a certain age. You know full well what you let them get in to with a multiplayer game. So, you look at your parenting and you make up your mind if you did a good enough job to allow your children to interact with the real world and make correct judgementcalls. If you can't come to that conclusion, well...

[Redshift2k5]

Anyone who thinks "I didn't agree to be on someone elses' twitch" is advocating for the removal of all twitch broadcast of all multiplayer and MMO games. Which is crazy. It's no different than being observed by the other players in the match or by any people watching their screens at home.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 27 September 2014 - 01:40 AM.

[Moonlander]

Anyone who's complaining about this just has no clue.

The Basilisk, on 27 September 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

I know what the OP means.
And I find posts like:
"Hey you are now live on twitch" without beeing asked or without deliberately signing up for such a action to be just rude and annoying !

btw why would someone stream pug games ???

So do I think posting streaming links, or doing streaming in public matches should be a punishable offense ?

YES

Edit: If you want to display MWO or your awsome skills or if you feel just pretty and flashy put up a private match with your victims of choice and do your streaming there.

So what if someone wants to stream a pug match? It's not about their l337p4wnZ0r skills. They're just streaming a game. I've watched plenty of streams just because. Interaction with other people, fun chat topics, etc. It's not about impressing anyone or trying to act better than anyone else.

[Ghogiel]

Spamming chat is against the rules already. Though I suspect you don't quite grasp what chat spam is...

[BigJim]

Crunk, I can't really take your argument seriously - Yesterday on Tourmaline you were so rude to the Aussie guy who was streaming (which I suspect kicked this thread off), and so childish in your insults to him [redacted], that your - zomg think of the kids - argument kind of loses any meaning.

He just took your bitterness in perfectly good stride, didn't argue back, didn't insult, just said no worries & got on with his game.
So if I were looking for someone to set an example to "the kids", I would choose him over you any day of the week.

Edited by Egomane, 27 September 2014 - 05:16 AM.
even quoting, the rules for language and insults apply.

[Chrithu]

Moonlander, on 27 September 2014 - 01:37 AM, said:

Anyone who's complaining about this just has no clue.



So what if someone wants to stream a pug match? It's not about their l337p4wnZ0r skills. They're just streaming a game. I've watched plenty of streams just because. Interaction with other people, fun chat topics, etc. It's not about impressing anyone or trying to act better than anyone else.

And most importantly it's mostly NOT about letting the others in the game look dumb or expose them in a any way. It's not like they hack into your webcam and stream your face while you're playing. The only occasions to even see your nickname in a stream is on the start and end screens and when you type in chat or in kill messages. And the chat is hardly legible in most streams and watchers would either not care about the start and end screens or just scan to see nicks of people they know and play with.

In my opinion Crunk and Basilisk are bloating up a non-problem because of some weird paranoic thought process they got going on there.

[Training Instructor]

I don't care about your twitch stream. I don't care if we're live.

Twitch is a result of a culture of mediocrity where people like to watch great players play the games they should be playing.

An occasional YouTube video I'll admit to, but watching tournament livestreams or just regular gameplay livestreams? No way in hell.

[KuroNyra]

Ghogiel, on 27 September 2014 - 01:41 AM, said:

Spamming chat is against the rules already. Though I suspect you don't quite grasp what chat spam is...

<< Hey guy's, if your interest. I'm streaming some game from time to time, and your currently being watched by a thousands of guy. Smile! >>
For the OP, that's spam.


But what about that them?


<< Hey, Listen!
- Hey, , Listen!
- Hey, , Listen!
- Hey, , Listen!
- Hey,, Listen!
- Hey, , Listen!
- Hey, Listen!
- Hey, Listen!
- Hey, Listen!
- Hey, Listen!
- Hey, Listen!
- Hey, Listen! >>


Well for him, that's just a regular chat. Nothing to complain about.

Training Instructor, on 27 September 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

I don't care about your twitch stream. I don't care if we're live.

Twitch is a result of a culture of mediocrity where people like to watch great players play the games they should be playing.

An occasional YouTube video I'll admit to, but watching tournament livestreams or just regular gameplay livestreams? No way in hell.

Or maybe because it's also a good way to see how other people see the game, and play it?
Maybe because it's also fun and you can tell your opinion and give some tips to the guy?

You sound like one of these pseudo-journalist speaking about video game.

Tsss, no wonder why with people like you there is always complains.
People have the right to watch stream. And your gonna insult them because they do something you don't look?
12 years old mentality.

Edited by KuroNyra, 27 September 2014 - 01:58 AM.

[Chrithu]

Training Instructor, on 27 September 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

I don't care about your twitch stream. I don't care if we're live.

Twitch is a result of a culture of mediocrity where people like to watch great players play the games they should be playing.

An occasional YouTube video I'll admit to, but watching tournament livestreams or just regular gameplay livestreams? No way in hell.

By that logic watching any sports on TV is a bad thing too? Even worse if you do the same sport?

[Phex]

I like watching Twitch and YouTube Vids of my games.
It alows me to see my Gameplay from a diferent angle.
And of corse its fun to watch.
I don`t stream my selfe, but i coulnd care less if someone does!

I think this hole topic is a TROLL!!!