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[Joe Mallad]

Shar Wolf, on 07 October 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Because they get frustrated and angry when they fight the people who DO play it as Conquest rather than Skirmish....

And then proceed to get outmaneuvered and lose the match because of it.

Same reason so many people scream bloody murder about base captures in Assault.

thank you. Some just don't want to do anything besides brawl in skirmish type modes. My issue with this is, these will be the same people that will constantly mess with CW games when they can't play what they want and drop or kill themselves because they can't play what they want.

If me and 3, 5 or 7 of my unit go into a game and are teamed up with another 4 man or a 4 man and 2 lone wolves, how is it fair when a few of the other guys my unit teams with, decide "I don't want to play this game mode or map." And drop on us for that reason alone? These people are going to screw up games for those of use that want to play a serious game.

This is why I think we need 4vs4, 8vs8 and 12vs12 man question even in CW. My unit for the most part can and always has at least 8 guys on. So we should be able to drop into CW as an 8 man vs another 8 man without the 12vs12 and having to rely on others the fill that 12 man que, who may drop on us because they don't want to play a game mode.

Edited by Yoseful Mallad, 07 October 2014 - 03:33 PM.

[Dracol]

Ran a few 10mans and 7man groups already. Games were much closer. Instead of rolls, 12v5, 12v6, 12v10 now.

As for group queue so far the MM change has helped.

[N0MAD]

Kay Wolf, on 07 October 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

N0MAD, you and I play together a LOT, and I enjoy wrecking **** together in the game; have you ever been forced to play in a game mode you didn't want when gaming with Armageddon Unlimited? Do you think, with this new voting system, you could free your mind enough to every so often play what someone else DOES want? You may not need or want to improve YOURSELF, but I NEED and want to improve myself, and I can't do that if I'm forced to constantly play the same crap over and over and bloody over again.

This argument goes both ways, only now those of us who want to play a game mode that we don't get to play unless we go solo, will be able to. However, NOW those of us who do want to play alternate game modes and CAN'T because of other selfish individuals we have in our teams, or when combining brother units for a night of debauched destruction, will get the chance to because of the voting system. I like to play with my friends, with my team, but I also want to be able to play other game modes.

If you think you can play something different every so often, let me know? Your vote counts, either way.

As for the 1500 votes it took to get this done, if that indeed was all there was, are from the people paying attention. Pretty soon, PGI are going to add a system in the interface where all of us will have a say from that point, if we want it. My thoughts are that people will skip it, ignorantly, so they can play the game. If you, and anyone else out there who didn't get a say, wants a say, start paying more attention to the forums, and make sure you pay attention to the more important items PGI will want our input on when THAT module gets added to the game interface. Otherwise, live with what happens in the game... period.

Brother i really Enjoy playing with you and the rest of the AU guys, its fun and entertaining, great group of guys.
One thing in particular i enjoy about playing with you guys is... im never forced to play say a mech i hate (in my case Lights).
Now if on the other hand you guys said to me well noob you Have to play a Light or have to play Conquest whether you want to or not, im afraid our teaming days would be over, i really would expect for you to ask " hey noob wana play a few rounds of conquest?" to which i would reply "hey bro i really really dont enjoy that mode in fact i despise it and it really annoys me, im not here to be annoyed, do you mind if i skip a few games?"

For those of you that say "hey we enjoy all modes" power to you and you had the option to pick any or all modes, me im being told play this whether i want to or not or banhammer, no choice.. well NTY.

Edited by N0MAD, 07 October 2014 - 02:53 PM.

[Bmetranger]

Egomane, on 07 October 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Not in the CoC. No!

But in the Exploit and Griefing rules it is stated, that if you disconnect intentionally from a match, or suicide without tactical intent, this is a bannable offense.

The Tactical Intent is us Voting that we hate the New Matchmaker.

[Featherwood]

Shar Wolf, on 07 October 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

No.

So far you have fit almost EXACTLY the point of view I was referring to.

And if you, by chance, have phrased yourself so badly as to have put yourself unintentionally into that group?

Remember the First Rule of Rules.

Well, so far your responses fit almost EXACTLY to the "elite kid" group, which believe they are so smart that do not bother to listen to others. And if you, by chance, capable to understand what you've been told and express your thoughts without vague intimations and secret self-adoration, then I will repeat to you in hope for understanding:
I belong to the group of people which do not like Conquest mode for <whatever> reason (in my case they are: missing logic behind the points running/staying action). As result, people in that group do not have experience of playing Conquest as conquest (when it is played as simple skirmish, I'd say it happens 50/50, I'm alright with it). I do not like being forced to do ANYTHING related to my rest and free time occupations, e.g. being forced to play Conquest mode. Was that clear enough, quiaff?

[Toothless]

You guys finally fixing the trial mech thing was worth an entire patch.

[Dirk Le Daring]

Trial mechs off the owned list, and unowned mech stats.....Great to see this done.

All the rest is good too.

Keep up the good work PGI.

[Aleric]

As others have said I WILL NOT BE FORCED to play something I do not want to play. If a match pops and its not the one I want then I will leave the match. If this becomes a problem then I will quit playing all together. I will not be forced to do something I have paid money that I did not agree to. Let the DCs begin.

[WM Jeri]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 07 October 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

How on earth did you come to think this?

Well I agree with him no desire to play 2 of the game modes and play skirmish exclusively for a reason. Not even bothering to patch.

N0MAD, on 07 October 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

I hope you are now prepared to have alot of people just leave the match when they are forced to play a match type they just dont want to play.
I will be exiting any conquest game i get voted into, im not here to play a game mode i hate.

If I do come back I think I will just do this as well.

[Gremlinn]

I am really happy for all of it. But with our Merik Civil war that we participate in we run Conquest mode and as that is the least chosen, it will be a lot harder to get into practices. And then, in all honesty, when I get into a Conquest match in my assults or heavies especially, I am going to rage quit the match. I personally hate pugging Conquest, 12 man, no problem. So if you see a lot of rage quits...you asked for it.

Why force me to play a mode that I don't want to? Does World of Warcraft make everyone raid? Do they make everyone PVP? NO!!! In fact you don't have to even do either one of those. In PVP alone, you can choose just one style that you want to play, and even if you want the random bonuses, you can choose a couple to NOT play!!! Please take a small page from a multi billion dollar a year company and let us dictate what we want to do, not the other way around. You are trying to make me play whatever you want me to and I refuse, so more people are going to leave the modes they don't want. Believe me, I won't be the only one.

Map preferences, even though I hate the mining company, River City, River City Night, and Frozen City where I have to use thermal vision, I don't think you should take let people choose.

[bane]

Oddly, my concern on the changes to the matchmaker is that it seems to be a rather odd change. You give us options to not play modes we don't want too (like most multiplayer games, I don't wanna play Capture the Flag, I don't have too). Now you remove that and force people into playing modes they don't want too with comments that it is to improve the matchmaker. What it really looks like is we possibly don't have as large a community as things are made out to be and that is a problem with the matchmaker (can't find a body to fill the seat so you all wait).

[WM Jeri]

Egomane, on 07 October 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Not in the CoC. No!

But in the Exploit and Griefing rules it is stated, that if you disconnect intentionally from a match, or suicide without tactical intent, this is a bannable offense.

Fine they can ban me and keep my Grand investment in the game, I will keep doing it till they change it or ban me.

[valt901]

Match score function is not working.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Featherwood, on 07 October 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

I do not like what you said or how you said it so I am going to show just how amazingly mature I am by throwing a fit about it and accusing you of Elitism, snobbery, and not listening to me

Nice to know you have payed attention to my posting history.

If you think I am taking the Elitist side of things, you are only showing off your OWN ignorance and failure to read other's posts.

[frpeebles]

WM Jeri, on 07 October 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

Fine they can ban me and keep my Grand investment in the game, I will keep doing it till they change it or ban me.

I feel the same way. I don't like bailing on my team but they are forcing my hand. I very specifically play the content in the game that is worth it (which is almost none these days.) I'm not playing the bits that aren't.

Next patch: Drop in a voted mech with a voted loadout.

Edited by frpeebles, 07 October 2014 - 03:24 PM.

[WM Jeri]

N0MAD, on 07 October 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

So you are going to ban me because i dont want to play a game mode i detest? ok thanks

Exactly, they are more than welcome to ban me and lose my monetary support. They know exactly how much I have spent, I can move that gravy train elsewhere. Making people play something they don't want to play...way to offer choices to customers.

Pyrrho, on 07 October 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

I am pretty sure that changes like this are covered in the EULA, mostly along the lines of "we can change, retract, and basically modify any game parameters we want, at any time, without ever having to inform you that it is happening."

Yep and I can retract and spend money elsewhere...two way street. This one pisses me off enough to say enough.

[Kjudoon]

Forced skirmish mode? Yeah... no... that's almost a deal breaker. No thanks.

Edited by Kjudoon, 07 October 2014 - 03:30 PM.

[Jon McAdder]

This MM is now bollocks. So much for free will eh? Guess I should never be playing if the MM is this skewed.

[Kjudoon]

Egomane, on 07 October 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Not in the CoC. No!

But in the Exploit and Griefing rules it is stated, that if you disconnect intentionally from a match, or suicide without tactical intent, this is a bannable offense.

I understand, and so I don't get banned, I guess I will be staying away till this no-win situation is removed.

[WM Jeri]

Great just checked out our unit site and have had two members install one is thinking of buying an 890 jump instead to salve his pain.

Edited by WM Jeri, 07 October 2014 - 03:34 PM.