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[Sovery_Simple]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 October 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

No w let's hope all the butthurt QQers who want to complain about everything actually vote.

Because if they don't? If they can't be bothered to check the forums? Then I don't give a rat's butt about their complaints AFTER the fact.


Be proactive people or deal with it.

Yes, because a post that was hidden in a dark corner of the forums, and up for only two and a half days, clearly is a sign of divine intervention and we should take it's decision as a holy edict. Or, or, hey, maybe it should be in the game client itself. At least on the main page, but ideally a question when you log in. You know, actually involve the goddamn playerbase. How can you possibly be okay with that last "vote"? Our government does less shady **** than that bishop.

Edited by Whoops, 07 October 2014 - 07:52 PM.

[Wing 0]

Voted no on both. Lots of people including myself have gave it a try and do not see anything good with the new Matchmaker. Wait times had never been a problem at all. Game mode of choice shouldnt be taken away no matter what. There should've been a 3rd Group Queue system for the New Match Maker. example, "Team Tactical" all game modes are random along with maps. votes are accounted players in party. Solo would be the same.

Edited by Wing 0, 07 October 2014 - 07:53 PM.

[N0MAD]

This poll is a Farce.. you are going to poll what 5%-10% of the population?
First question is loaded, how do people know the the ELO is more balanced in teams? we are to beleive you?
Sorry this is not meant to be an insult but from your history i cant really take anything you say as totally honest, after all you told us many times in the past that you were working on a feature to then not long ago admit you had not indeed been working on it.
Again this is not an insult just a concern, so i hope my honesty doesnt upset you.

[Alex Morgaine]

Well, I got my (vote, phone, vote!) in on this one, so at least that.let's see what comes off this thread. Maybe someone will post genius level thoughts and get ideas rolling?

Edited by Frosty Brand, 07 October 2014 - 07:52 PM.

[White Bear 84]

I voted YES to both. purely because improvements in ELO are worth the sacrifice and I have no objection gaussing lights in conquest.

But once again.. ...keep it in but have it as a secondary mechanism, use it when there are not enough players at a split time say within 30 seconds or something to form a 12 v 12 for a particular mode. If in this time there is enough players, group them together in their desired mode.

Preferences first then voting. If it is a terrible suggestion please by all means explain why - better than it being completely ignored & it being suggested the whole voting system is canned.. ..it is an alternative to the current system to improve matchmaking..

[Bishop Steiner]

Whoops, on 07 October 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

Yes, because a post that was hidden in a dark corner of the forums, and up for only two and a half days, clearly is a sign of divine intervention and we should take it's decision as a holy edict. Or, or, hey, maybe it should be in the game client itself. At least on the main page, but ideally a question when you log in. You know, actually involve the goddamn playerbase. How can you possibly be okay with that last "vote"? Our government does less shady **** than that bishop.

lol. Weird, I knew about it.


Maybe because...oh yeah, I actually check the forums, and thus, voted, and thus have a n actual right to comment. If people can't be bothered to stay informed, sorry, I don't feel sorry for you.

[Zainadin]

Darth Futuza, on 07 October 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

...and what does that have to do with this?

What I tried to say is I will vote when given a choice, this time the vote was noticed after the change. And now some are stuck trying to repeal it.

Also what I meant about the poll not mattering to me is because I can still make a choice to wait for my game type by dropping from the others. This will piss off some players but I get the game type I wanted.

so far the rate I see conquest, my only type I want to play. so far I am dropping 6 for the 1 I want.

Edited by Zainadin, 07 October 2014 - 08:00 PM.

[FinnMcKool]

this is looking more and more like the 3rd person issue, and that left about half the founders demanding their money back and they never played again, I dont want to see that happen again , and no i wont leave even if i hate it, but you know what ? I do not believe that pgi cant balance the ELO and let people chose the game mode they want , (Canadians are smarter than that)
maybe you need to find out whats wrong with (or why people dislike ) certain game modes .

what i dislike about Conquest: really i like it , but not in an assault mech its a lite and Med, mech game.

Assault mode: I like this one mainly because there is more than one way to win .

Skirmish mode: one word "Spiders", they cant be killed hit box is busted everyone knows it , so they run around and hide and the game never ends.

so fix game modes plz then fix the MM.

[Alex Morgaine]

Additional:

Jonathan Paine, on 07 October 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

Also, would love the option of "I'm happy to wait longer for a better match" check box.

Options are always beneficial over limitations. Maybe add a check box for the pre patch mm and go from there?

[draiocht]

Worth to note, this was done to tighten Elo variance -- maybe we'll be able to better see the Elo differences after a long period, but my observations today hasn't shown any different.

(or maybe mathematically balanced Elo isn't all what leads to fun, balanced play~~)

[N0MAD]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 October 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

lol. Weird, I knew about it.


Maybe because...oh yeah, I actually check the forums, and thus, voted, and thus have a n actual right to comment. If people can't be bothered to stay informed, sorry, I don't feel sorry for you.

Wasnt it you that didnt know how the point system for the weekend event worked? or was that someone else?

[Darth Futuza]

Zainadin, on 07 October 2014 - 07:57 PM, said:

Also what I meant about the poll not mattering to me is because I can still make a choice to wait for my game type by dropping from the others. This will piss off some players but I get the game type I wanted.

Yeah, but wouldn't getting it patched back to the way you like it be better?

[PappySmurf]

Bishop Steiner (because it involves more than that.

Believe it or not, some of us prefer to take off our training wheels and play something besides braindead, zerg rush TDM skirmish. So simply asking if people want to play Conquest, is rather narrow and self serving, quiaff? )
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This to me is one of the biggest problems with MWO match making. First not knowing what map your dropping on and what game mode your playing is a mistake because it always seems like you pick the wrong mech for the map and game mode to start with. Plus we don't have savable mech confabs so we cannot pick a configuration to match the map or game modes either.

That's why I don't play conquest because I always get it when im in a assault or heavy mech and I should be in a medium or light mech. Or I pick a medium mech and get hammered in skirmish or assault mode it is a no win scenario and i just play for what fun I can get out of each match.

Edited by PappySmurf, 07 October 2014 - 08:00 PM.

[IceSerpent]

N0MAD, on 07 October 2014 - 07:51 PM, said:

This poll is a Farce.. you are going to poll what 5%-10% of the population?

Uhm...don't get me wrong, but you might want to read up on what the term "poll" means (and how it differs from "referendum") - the whole point is to only ask small percentage of the population.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Russ for the love of God stop doing these highly important polls on the forums and put them into the login process or match queue, SOMETHING. You're not going to get a solid idea what the PLAYERS want when you ask them to STOP PLAYING to do these.

[FinnMcKool]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 October 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

because it involves more than that.

Believe it or not, some of us prefer to take off our training wheels and play something besides braindead, zerg rush TDM skirmish. So simply asking if people want to play Conquest, is rather narrow and self serving, quiaff?

By the way if you cant make an argument just insult the guy you disagree with.

[Soul Tribunal]

Ever since its introduction, I've noticed a lot more of my matches are close, right down to the last few mechs, and last few rounds of ammo.
I have yet in 33 games played been stomped, or stomped the opposite team.
I think the new system is working much much better, I m in brackets of players with my skill level.

-ST

[Zainadin]

Darth Futuza, on 07 October 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

Yeah, but wouldn't getting it patched back to the way you like it be better?

For sure, this is just a form of non-violent protest for me.

[WarHippy]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 07 October 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

Just as a quick head's up, there are 4 options and 3 potential outcomes:
Question 1 takes priority. If more people want the system to stay in it's current implementation, that will be so.
Question 2 follows from the alternate possibility of Question 1, and offers the Game Mode voting system operating only in the group queue, or not at all.

If you want to amend your vote, it's a great time to do so.

If question 1 ends in anything but a landslide it needs to revert to what it was before. You guys changed it because of a poll with a landslide vote, but the vote itself was poorly handled. It is kind of BS to take a simple majority vote for a change after the fact.

[Thorqemada]

I dont care - do whatever you feel to fit the best.

PS: Maybe i would care more if conquest was still the old fun mode with faster caps but the new slow one is smply the same mode like the two other modes with more bases and less turrets - if you go out to capture bases you lose - in the past you lost when you not captured bases from Minute 1 on - but atm its the same "Deathball" mode as Skirmish and Assault.

Edited by Thorqemada, 07 October 2014 - 08:10 PM.