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Poll: Game Mode Voting - Poll V2.0 (2802 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you like to keep the game mode voting system as currently implemented?

  1. Yes - I want the improvement in team ELO differences. (1445 votes [51.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.59%

  2. No - I would rather be assured of the game modes I am playing. (1356 votes [48.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 48.41%

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#41 Madcap72

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:48 PM

I voted yes.

I noted a positive differance in solo play, and dropping with two other guys.

Even the "stomps" weren't really stomps, they were just the "Combat loss grouping" kicking in.

The root cause of most problems seems to be a lack of leadership and untill people stop playing it like a FPS and treat it like the team based tactics game that it is, there's little that can be done.

#42 Sovery_Simple

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:48 PM

I will gladly trade one extra week of waiting for CW, for you to gather up everyone just to make a simple little ingame poll function work, if it for some reason takes the entire staff to make it work.

#43 Rick Rawlings

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:48 PM

I could really care less, but I will admit I voted yes because I have been amused by the cryhards...

#44 Duncan Longwood

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:49 PM

I need that 3rd option for "voting system for group queue and old school matchmaker for solo puggers." I was under the assumption from the first townhall meeting that this change would be for group queue only.

PGI already made the concession to group players for groups of less than 12 players. You get the freedom to have a good time by playing with friends, you can deal with more matchmaker restrictions. This "voting" system was made to make odd group sizes work in the matchmaker. Fair trade imo.

I drop solo, sometimes for just a single drop, and want to maximize my personal fun. Taking my choice away in solo decreases the fun I can have by myself. For no obvious benefit.

Imagine (if you can) going to look at an adult website and you only have 15 minutes to play. There are movies that you don't like and movies that you like, but you can't choose which type you watch. If you quit out of the movie, you will be banned from the website. All the other users say quit whining and enjoy what you don't like, it's all the same. Would you stay on that site or find another?

#45 Belorion

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:50 PM

I expect the no's to have an early lead with yes'es ultimately winning.

#46 Ultimax

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:50 PM

Unfortunately I didn't see much improvement tonight in the matches, so I don't see much reason to keep this new system if it doesn't improve the match making.


As Victor said, there are really a lot more factors at play that could also help balance matches.


Maybe once IS quirks are in, a second audit of all IS mech tiers (and an audit of clan mech tiers) could be done.

Each tier could be assigned some level of weight in the MM to help balance teams.

#47 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:50 PM

View PostRick Rawlings, on 07 October 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:

I could really care less, but I will admit I voted yes because I have been amused by the cryhards...


lol for admitting youre trolling the poll

#48 Ultimax

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:51 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 07 October 2014 - 08:39 PM, said:

Yes I don't have that functionality yet. I also do not want to remove any resources from CW to accommodate this poll. We need to live like this for a while longer.



You don't have it in-game, but there is the initial news screen before you click play where you advertise sales.


You could use that to advertise the poll, with a direct link to the thread.

At least that would get some higher visibility.

#49 Prussian Havoc

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:51 PM

I want a choice of map mode.

Don't take that choice away from me, please.

#50 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:51 PM

View PostBelorion, on 07 October 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

I expect the no's to have an early lead with yes'es ultimately winning.


again.... allowing the minority to run the game by polls that not everyone gets to see is an issue

...when it breaks the game (yes the irony is not lost on me that we're now arguing the other side of things)

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 07 October 2014 - 08:54 PM.


#51 Chilong

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:52 PM

If you guys are going to be using polls to justify new features like this you need to start doing them in game. Or at least sending out emails. Not all of us sit around scanning the forums all day.

#52 Gyrok

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:52 PM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 07 October 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

"I'd like gamemode voting in group queues where it's actually making an ELO difference, but not in solo groups where it's making none" is a very valid and indeed crucial option, not a suboption to be addressed later.

Please reconsider your "no further edits" stance and implement that option.


None of the people voting no want it in solo queue either...

#53 Summon3r

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:53 PM

how can a forum vote possibly be taken seriously? there is no way even close to the majority of the community even pays attn to teh forums. by the way que time is longer then ever tonight

Edited by Summon3r, 07 October 2014 - 09:06 PM.


#54 Russ Bullock

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:53 PM

View PostVanillaG, on 07 October 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

If this gets reverted, please make it so a player/team can only exclude ONE game mode. That way they can be matched on the 2 other modes.


I will ask the engineers about this, not sure if we will see any benefit at this point. But I can ask.

#55 Jman5

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:53 PM

By the way Russ, if you're reading this there is another way you could improve Group Elo a little bit. We all know that the odd-number groups have the longest wait time because it's difficult to slot them into an even number team. Why don't you allow solo players to voluntarily (via checkbox) opt into being put into the group queue on occasion?

You could hard cap it to no more than 1 solo person per team and only if they are a great match for Elo/mech needed.

This would allow players to meet and mingle with larger groups and it would finally open up the ability to drop as 11-man groups.

#56 Gyrok

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:54 PM

View PostDuncan Longwood, on 07 October 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

I need that 3rd option for "voting system for group queue and old school matchmaker for solo puggers." I was under the assumption from the first townhall meeting that this change would be for group queue only.

PGI already made the concession to group players for groups of less than 12 players. You get the freedom to have a good time by playing with friends, you can deal with more matchmaker restrictions. This "voting" system was made to make odd group sizes work in the matchmaker. Fair trade imo.

I drop solo, sometimes for just a single drop, and want to maximize my personal fun. Taking my choice away in solo decreases the fun I can have by myself. For no obvious benefit.

Imagine (if you can) going to look at an adult website and you only have 15 minutes to play. There are movies that you don't like and movies that you like, but you can't choose which type you watch. If you quit out of the movie, you will be banned from the website. All the other users say quit whining and enjoy what you don't like, it's all the same. Would you stay on that site or find another?


Group queue also does not want it either...

Please do not foist this unwanted rubbish on groups...we DO NOT want it.

#57 Russ Bullock

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:54 PM

View PostUltimatum X, on 07 October 2014 - 08:51 PM, said:



You don't have it in-game, but there is the initial news screen before you click play where you advertise sales.


You could use that to advertise the poll, with a direct link to the thread.

At least that would get some higher visibility.


Yes tomorrow we could put it into the launcher like it is a sale.

#58 N0MAD

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:54 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 07 October 2014 - 08:39 PM, said:


Yes I don't have that functionality yet. I also do not want to remove any resources from CW to accommodate this poll. We need to live like this for a while longer.

oooops a ninja beat me to it. Damm Ninjas..

Edited by N0MAD, 07 October 2014 - 08:56 PM.


#59 Kushko

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:55 PM

Could give voting more of an incentive. On big important pools you could make it like "come vote and get 500k-1mil C-bills!". I guarantee that ingame chat would spread the word and the pool turnouts would become quite impressive.

#60 Alex Morgaine

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:55 PM

Well, this is getting a little silly.
//votes again





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