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[GreyNovember]

If I understood the gist of the OP, he's not cool with Dires and Timbers being under IS Light ECM, correct?

Would it be any different if it was a Kitfox, Cicada, or a DDC providing the ECM?

Perhaps bring a UAV with you, if it's so much of a concern?

[Moonlander]

Well, as someone else said, just use BAP. Instruct your teammates with ECM to counter. There are ways around it. I hate ECM too sometimes, until I'm using it myself on my DDC. When I use my LRM boat, I seem to always be against a team who has blanket ECM across the map. It's not that way tho, just seems to be. I find many people won't counter for fear of showing their location tho. Which is sad!

[Almond Brown]

So in a 12 man Match, only one(1) Team took that ECM set up? Or is this in the random pug queue? ...confused...

[Soul Tribunal]

Excalabur50, on 09 October 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:

What kind of stupid comment is that your eyes cannot counter ecm when all you are carrying is lrm's you just cannot fire them

Yes you can Actually, Artemis Guidance allows you to fire salvo's of your LRM's at the exact point your sights are trained on. That will force whomever is in that spot to move and thus allow the other direct fire Mechs on your team to engage.

-ST

[Gyrok]

Excalabur50, on 09 October 2014 - 03:35 AM, said:

So had an absolute gutfull of dying to Direwolfs and Timberwolfs being protected by Inner Sphere lights ECM it's being used and abused and i'm starting to seriously think about going back to BF4 till separation happens cause this just sucks the big one. You just can't have a decent match without being totally owned great for the ones doing the owning but utter **** for the one on the receiving end needs looking at fast.

Hi, direct fire weapons called, they said get out of your LRM boat and actually play the game.

[Murphy7]

Excalabur50, on 09 October 2014 - 04:09 AM, said:

No it's not a troll and you can't counter multiple ecm had one match recently whilst carrying LRM which I don't do much cause it's pointless atm when the enemy team had 2 ddc's a kitfox and 4 Is light all with ecm so what the hell counters that NOTHING

Incorrect.

You can tag your own targets, and let fly. If your interest is in targeting Direwhales, that is almost "gg" right there.

One point you are correct - there is little you can do on your own to counter a team. That is working as intended. Try teamwork on your side.

[Excalabur50]

Only got one Artemis boat and it is useless if you die before you get a shot off because the other team doesn't show up on your sensors but you show up one theirs and get LRM'd in 30 seconds flat game over for you, also had a number of games running my Cat with BAP and Command Console and still can't cut through the ECM and died before getting a shot off so once again my match lasted all of 30 seconds so tell me what is fun playing matches like that.....NOTHING!
TBH I think the best way to fix this kind of issue is for the match maker to allow 2 ECM per match only it would still give enough cover but would give players a fairer chance at countering some of it. But what the hell I might be wrong who really wants fairer well matched games......

[KraftySOT]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[zagibu]

With a tag you can get a lock on a full team of D-DCs within the tag's range of 750m. Also, practice dumb-firing, it works pretty well against slow mechs like DWFs or Atlases, especially if they come at you (just aim at the ground a bit ahead of them). Also, don't complain about being helpless when you boat LRMs. Maybe get some backup weapons?

[Kubernetes]

You can dead-fire even without Artemis. Just make sure to aim at the slow heavies and not the fast mechs. And as others have mentioned, bring Tag. It cuts through all ECM.

[Lyoto Machida]

Joseph Mallan, on 09 October 2014 - 03:39 AM, said:

How can it be used and abused in a Randomly Generated team?

Procedurally generated ROFLstomps...

[Excalabur50]

Everyone is missing the point I don't see anyone to shoot at before I die, I have tag on my lrm boat but I'm dead before I get to 750 meters, hell even when I use my HBK-4G or KTO-GB or anything else it's death from sight unseen IT"S TOO UNBALANCED.
Spawned into a game last night never took one step and was hit twice with a Gauss never saw any of the enemy team before dying it's just stupid and not fun

[Destructicus]

Alright, another thread complaining about ECM

If you want to go back to play BF4, go ahead, nobody misses people with your attitude.

I however have this freak ability to play more than one game at a time, it's incredible how easy it is.

Excalabur50, on 09 October 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:

Everyone is missing the point I don't see anyone to shoot at before I die, I have tag on my lrm boat but I'm dead before I get to 750 meters, hell even when I use my HBK-4G or KTO-GB or anything else it's death from sight unseen IT"S TOO UNBALANCED.
Spawned into a game last night never took one step and was hit twice with a Gauss never saw any of the enemy team before dying it's just stupid and not fun

>play LRM boat
>complain about ECM

It's your fault you didn't seek cover after the first gauss hit, especially at the start of the game.

Edited by Destructicus, 09 October 2014 - 04:29 PM.

[Impyrium]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm picturing some guy in a green 'Mech running off right at the enemy team without bothering to stick with their own team or use cover.

And you'd seriously only boat LRMs and expect to survive with such a gameplay style?

[Excalabur50]

Destructicus, on 09 October 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

Alright, another thread complaining about ECM

If you want to go back to play BF4, go ahead, nobody misses people with your attitude.

I however have this freak ability to play more than one game at a time, it's incredible how easy it is.




>play LRM boat
>complain about ECM

It's your fault you didn't seek cover after the first gauss hit, especially at the start of the game.

Yes sure you can seek cover when you spawn out in the water in river city and the enemy team spawns within line of sight of you and if you read my previous comments its not only with lrm boats hell that match I was in my 4G.
The truth to me seems to be that no one wants to lose their advantage whilst they stomp other teams and players into the ground without the other team having a fair go

[Rhaegor]

BF4 lol

[Darth Futuza]

I just screwed over a Timberwolf and a Direwolf and an ecm kitfox on the same team with my Jenner, no change necessary.

AUSwarrior24, on 09 October 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm picturing some guy in a green 'Mech running off right at...

Green mechs are the best, I call it noob camouflage. Everyone underestimates you.

Edited by Darth Futuza, 09 October 2014 - 04:49 PM.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Excalabur50, on 09 October 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:

What kind of stupid comment is that your eyes cannot counter ecm when all you are carrying is lrm's you just cannot fire them

Take backup weapons.

Ammo exclusive builds are bad, and you should feel bad for complaining that you're LRM boat is being countered by ECM.

Seriously cry harder. Or take backup weapons that are not hard countered by ECM. it's a simple solution really.

[Destructicus]

Excalabur50, on 09 October 2014 - 04:45 PM, said:

Yes sure you can seek cover when you spawn out in the water in river city and the enemy team spawns within line of sight of you and if you read my previous comments its not only with lrm boats hell that match I was in my 4G.
The truth to me seems to be that no one wants to lose their advantage whilst they stomp other teams and players into the ground without the other team having a fair go

You couldn't find cover in river city? In a medium?

It obvious you're the issue, not ECM.
Given the amount of time it takes to aim, charge, fire, reload, aim again, charge and fire, you had more than enough to time to get out of there, especially in a Hunch, ECM had nothing to do with it.
"oh but I couldnt' see them!"
That's when you get out of the open and get your bearings, of course you died, you made bad calls, you're just looking for someone to blame.

Edited by Destructicus, 09 October 2014 - 05:00 PM.

[Sergeant Random]

Excalabur50, on 09 October 2014 - 04:09 AM, said:

No it's not a troll and you can't counter multiple ecm had one match recently whilst carrying LRM which I don't do much cause it's pointless atm when the enemy team had 2 ddc's a kitfox and 4 Is light all with ecm so what the hell counters that NOTHING

7, SEVEN ECM mechs in red team???

Uh, matchmaker fail?

Anyone good with maths that can figure the probability of 7 ECM mechs dropping in a team? Versus the likelihood of this being a troll post...

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