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[Joseph Mallan]

Jazzbandit1313, on 13 October 2014 - 01:10 PM, said:

With the release of the AS7-S close approaching, I have to grind out one more Atlas to get the elite perks. I've already basic'd the RS and dread the K. Should i go with the D-DC or the D? I love me some ECM, but the D has much better zombie potential due to the CT energy hardpoints.

Any suggestions?

D-DC. Having an assault ECM is a good thing.I just need to drop some coin to instantly master the Atlas-S.

[Roadbuster]

Tahribator, on 14 October 2014 - 03:34 AM, said:

D looks good on the paper, but those CT lasers are very hard to aim because the torso is very slow.

Sorry, but what makes aiming with torso mounted ACs or SRMs easier than aiming with torso mounted lasers?

[MeiSooHaityu]

My favorite Atlas?...A dead Atlas

Yea, with the new Atlas coming to my Mechbay, I'm going to have to start playing the Atlas...crap...I hate Assaults.

Well the other 2 are going to have to be a DDC and my Founders I suppose.

[Keeshu]

I only played Atlases when it was 8v8s. So the game has changed A LOT since I played Atlases.

Favorite Stock Atlas in MWO:
#1 Atlas K - 2 ER Large, a Gauss, and an LRM 20 for powerful long range combat, destroy them before they get close.


Favorite Atlas after being messed with:
#1 Atlas K - Double AMS (only thing that makes it stand out over the D). It just makes me laugh watching people trying to LRM me doing little- to no damage to me (and/or my teammates that are nearby).
This is probably what I'd do if I were to use the Atlas K again. Runs hot, but it'll always be able to fight as long as it's alive, 2 ER Large in arms, 1 Large Pulse CT, 1 Gauss Rifle, 1 LRM 10 (cause missile tube is 10 and i needed tonnage), 2 AMS
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...432599f36e1cd61
I'd have to try it out though.
#2 Atlas D-DC - ECM makes people deathball around you (which was even more deadly in 8v8s). Also at the time, BAP and NARCs could not disable ECM making it so LRMs almost never hit you due to people not bringing TAG lasers very often (and would die quickly due to the deathball swarming around me).
Even then, I loved the D-DC the most because it has MORE MISSILES! and I love missiles more than other weapons. Also, I prefered to have 1 Large laser or PPC in each arm anyways, with an AC/20 to backup the Missiles.

[Bilbo]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 October 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

D-DC. Having an assault ECM is a good thing.I just need to drop some coin to instantly master the Atlas-S.

My GXP is ready!!!

[Bilbo]

Roadbuster, on 14 October 2014 - 04:30 AM, said:

Sorry, but what makes aiming with torso mounted ACs or SRMs easier than aiming with torso mounted lasers?

Nothing, but without locking the arms it can be difficult to sync them with the lasers in the arms. I imagine the exercise is easier now, but I quit using it before the arm lock feature was introduced.

[Greenjulius]

Vassago Rain, on 13 October 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

You get the D, the DDC, and the S.

Boarer's remorse is a 30 dollar jenner, RS is obsolete, and K is the laughing stock of the assault selection.

Boarer's remorse... I love that!

I have all but the K. Its hardpoints are sub par and you are forced to buy the XL300, so I didn't feel like it was worth the purchase.

Of the 4, I like the Boar's Head the least. I can get really good games in it from time to time with 6xERLL (yeah, it runs a *tad* bit hot) and a STD350 but it's imbalanced with all the energy points in the arms.

The D is way better than people give it credit for. The 2 ballistic hardpoints, 2 arm/2CT energy and 2 missile makes this thing a great brawler. I've had more productive zombie rounds in the D than any other mech. A 4x ML, 2x LB10x, 2x SRM6 build is so much fun, I can't recommend it enough.

The DDC is the undisputed best of the group. ECM, 2 ballistic, 3 missile, 2 energy... It's so balanced and versatile, there is almost no reason to run anything else unless you REALLY want a lot of energy weapons. The DDC can brawl, provide long range support, and even LRM a little. You can't go wrong with it.

The RS is an odd duck. It's balanced decently, and allows for some good assault builds. If you like energy, just get this and ignore the Boar's Head. You'll save your MC and get the same thing without being stuck with a worthless XL400 engine.

Edited by Greenjulius, 14 October 2014 - 08:01 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dock Steward, on 13 October 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

You do what makes you happy, of course, but there's ONE Assault with ECM in the game, and you didn't want it?

Not my job to follow the sheep. I'll stick to my RS when I have to Atlas, unless I end up really liking the 7-S.
If you need to hide under a magic box so bad, perhaps you should have brought your own?

[Cygone]

As a general rule of thumb when looking at the Atlas's

D-DC > D = RS > BH = K

For group and pug play the ECM that the DDC offers is a very nice addition.

Generally good builds

D-DC = 2xLL + 2xLBX10 + 3xSRM6 + ECM + STD310
D = 4xML + 2xUAC5 + 2xASRM6 + STD350
RS = 2xLL + 2xML + 1xAC20 + 2xASRM6 + STD340
K = 4xMPL + 1xAC20 + 1xASRM6 + BAP + CC + TiG(Module) + STD320
BH = 6xMPL + 1xAC20 + 1xASRM6 + STD360
S = 4xML + 1xGAUSS + 4xSRM6 + STD350 (2ton +4ton, 100/100 with Endo and 0 Criticals available)

Biggest issues with the BH and the K, is their best brawler builds don't lead to any effective range weapons. This is not true of the D, D-DC or RS.

Edited by Cygone, 14 October 2014 - 08:15 AM.

[Dock Steward]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

Not my job to follow the sheep. I'll stick to my RS when I have to Atlas, unless I end up really liking the 7-S.
If you need to hide under a magic box so bad, perhaps you should have brought your own?

Maybe take your ECM hatred out somewhere else...

[Bishop Steiner]

Jason Parker, on 14 October 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

Haha nice one. He does seem quite relaxed though to be honest, enjoying the beach.

lower back looks a little too arched to be relaxed. More Like he's getting shock therapy

[Bishop Steiner]

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Maybe take your ECM hatred out somewhere else...

I have no hate of it. I just don't feel like it's mandatory to carry it.

This thread asked your favorite Atlas. Mine is the RS. Half this thread is full of myopic players shouting "D-DC or nothing", which, I am simply saying, is stupid.

[Dock Steward]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

I have no hate of it. I just don't feel like it's mandatory to carry it.

This thread asked your favorite Atlas. Mine is the RS. Half this thread is full of myopic players shouting "D-DC or nothing", which, I am simply saying, is stupid.

Yes, and you directed it at me. If your comment isn't meant to be directed at just me, please don't direct it at just me. I don't think people need to run DD-C's all the time, but, yeah, if someone's going to have Atli in their hangar, I think one should be a DD-C. It's really the only one that can do what none of the others can do. Sure, all variants have a few builds that only that variant can run, but 1 LBX isn't as different from 2 LBX's as no ECM is from ECM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

Yes, and you directed it at me. If your comment isn't meant to be directed at just me, please don't direct it at just me. I don't think people need to run DD-C's all the time, but, yeah, if someone's going to have Atli in their hangar, I think one should be a DD-C. It's really the only one that can do what none of the others can do. Sure, all variants have a few builds that only that variant can run, but 1 LBX isn't as different from 2 LBX's as no ECM is from ECM.

the specificity of your comment made a very good point to start from.

as in "You have a chance to bring the only ECM Assault and you skipped it". Sounds to me like you are accusing a person of handicapping the team. Following said premise, one should never use the Assault slot for ANY other Assault, aside, I suppose from a Direwolf, because GUNS, obviously.

Guess which Atlas is not in my Hanger? Yup. D-DC (OK, the K and Boars Head, also). Why? Because I didn't care for the hardpoints. (Can't get rid of my D, since it's a Founder and used for Stock Matches). The ECM was not even a consideration. if the D-DC could give direct fire support near as well as the RS, I would keep it.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 October 2014 - 08:53 AM.

[DONTOR]

I prefer the founders Atlas D, looks unique and is he most well rounded.

[Dock Steward]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

the specificity of your comment made a very good point to start from.

as in "You have a chance to bring the only ECM Assault and you skipped it". Sounds to me like you are accusing a person of handicapping the team. Following said premise, one should never use the Assault slot for ANY other Assault, aside, I suppose from a Direwolf, because GUNS, obviously.

Guess which Atlas is not in my Hanger? Yup. D-DC (OK, the K and Boars Head, also). Why? Because I didn't care for the hardpoints. (Can't get rid of my D, since it's a Founder and used for Stock Matches). The ECM was not even a consideration. if the D-DC could give direct fire support near as well as the RS, I would keep it.

Nope. The comment was, "you had a chance to buy a DD-C, and didn't?" Small difference, but not really. I also said, "do what makes you happy," but that part wasn't as easy to rail against, was it?

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

I have no hate of it. I just don't feel like it's mandatory to carry it.

This thread asked your favorite Atlas. Mine is the RS. Half this thread is full of myopic players shouting "D-DC or nothing", which, I am simply saying, is stupid.

i agree with you, My favorite Atlas is the D-DC, not cause it has the ECM(It helps) but I love the Weapon load I can bring. I think the S will replace the D-DC due to the awesome looking paint job!

[Bilbo]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 October 2014 - 08:57 AM, said:

i agree with you, My favorite Atlas is the D-DC, not cause it has the ECM(It helps) but I love the Weapon load I can bring. I think the S will replace the D-DC due to the awesome looking paint job!

Yeah...We'll go with paint job.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 08:57 AM, said:

Nope. The comment was, "you had a chance to buy a DD-C, and didn't?" Small difference, but not really. I also said, "do what makes you happy," but that part wasn't as easy to rail against, was it?

wow, panties in a bunch much, lol?

Dock Steward, on 13 October 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

You do what makes you happy, of course, but there's ONE Assault with ECM in the game, and you didn't want it?

Yes, politically correct, "Not telling you what you SHOULD do", of course, followed by the usual "but, I'm gonna imply what you should do".... Which, of course, is run the ONE Assault with ECM.



OK dude, take it as a personal attack and get madbro. *SMH*

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 October 2014 - 09:01 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bilbo, on 14 October 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

Yeah...We'll go with paint job.

it's the reason I cracked open my wallet for the Hellslinger!