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[Lily from animove]

MadPanda, on 18 October 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

55ton medium mech cost more than atlas? :S

Kinda funny random come together that you state this.
What if I tell you I just had an epic match thats ends had me and an atlas left?



Doomcrow is porbably the strongest (in my opinion even OP) medium chassis you can get. Worth every penny and we will very realistically reach the 45% rebate. Then its more than worth the price.

Can't wait to get PPC weapon modules for it. more range more pooow pooow

Edited by Lily from animove, 18 October 2014 - 01:31 PM.

[Koniving]

This is clearly a community effort to get discounts on mechs for the free to play crowd who want them.

...but honestly for a tournament to have us play to the objective rather than the game itself encouraging us to play to the objective? I'm glad that in conquest for capturing base after base it went up to 60,000 for earnings (while my team had all the fun, slaughtered everything, and left me bored to tears standing for up to 3 minutes (50 + 50 + 50 so 2 minutes and 30 seconds) on enemy bases to capture them before moving on to the next one. I still can earn more by shooting people.

I remember back when assault had a reward of about 100,000 for capturing the base even if you didn't see action (provided you were the one to make or assist the capture). It's been 25,000 (the same reward for suiciding immediately at the beginning of a match mind you) for so long that it's impossible to convince people that actually playing the objective is worth something.

My point is while this idea is all well and good... please PGI listen to the players who openly express their distaste for the game modes because of their problems. Capturing the base isn't trolling; it's playing the objective. But doing so when NO ONE IS GETTING PAID is trolling.

I'd like to see a paycheck, and turrets are quite a bit of work especially for a playing operating on his own (because everyone knows there's no money to be gained in doing anything but killing each other). It's really disheartening.

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Anyway, rant over. Now to spend my day off helping people get their discounts... Maybe I'll make a video about how much time I spend standing on squares with nothing to do but twiddle my thumbs while the war rages somewhere else...because it takes so damn long to capture...and..no one has any sense of urgency of coming to stop me. No one has any reason to get out of their sniper dens and their LRM alcoves or anything, because having captured this one base will take them longer to overturn and go back into the fight than it will take for them to completely annihilate my team.

[Johnny Reb]

The cheapest stormcrow is 11.1 mill cbills while the most expensive is 11.2 mill. Got these numbers during the test server night.

[Goose]

Mickey Knoxx, on 17 October 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

Applies to all 3 modes.. Unselect skirmish

Russ Bullock, on 09 October 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

How can you still have the game mode voting feature? Well, leave your game mode selection set to ALL.

[Madok Pryde]

We will surely hit 45%. 50% would be nice, but a big maybe

[PraetorGix]

This is a very interesting and fresh event, and it comes real handy cause I want those Stormcrows ASAP, go go go community gimme that 50% off

[Mcgral18]

Deathlike, on 18 October 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

You would need 150k points over 24 hours to even have a shot @ 50%. The problem is that we're 50% short of those expectations.

45% is the likely scenario, barring unforeseen circumstances.




Stormcrows are either 11m or 13m per varient or so. I forget which is the correct number.

The savings will be golden, considering that you will likely spend a lot of money on clan weapons to make it useful.

11.2 Mil per DoomCrow, and 15.2 mil for a TimberGod.

He's even updated it for the new pack.

Courtesy of FlyingFox333 for the spreadsheet.

http://mwomercs.com/...flying-fox-333/

[IllCaesar]

148,705 points 32 hours in, giving us 40 hours left to get just just 100,000 more. If we keep this pace (which we won't), we'll get about 180,000 more by the deadline, leaving us at around 330,000 points. Now unless participation drops dead in half or more, we'll meet that 250,000 goal for 45% off.

6.1 million dollar Stormcrows, here I come! This was actually a really good idea, PGI! Wouldn't be a bad idea to start doing these right around the time that new mechs drop, to boost interest. Additionally, this concept works just great for Community Warfare! Points only count if people do CW, and depending on who does better, Clan or IS, either Clan mechs or IS mechs go on sale. Alternatively, there could be a tug-of-war. Lets say you want the Trebuchet and the Nova on sale, so you give each side a 30% discount, and depending on which factions are winning, you essentially steal the discount by increments for your side. End up with, say, 45% off for the Nova and 15% off for the Trebuchet if the Clans just roll that weekend. Now thats some real community warfare.

Edited by MarsAtlas, 18 October 2014 - 05:33 PM.

[Aesthir]

Two things I've noticed playing this event:

#1) So, so much whining that the discount is community-wide rather than personal points. This "I worked for it 'cause I played a video game and nobody else should have it!" mentality just boggles my mind! As if someone else they'll never meet being able to buy a mech at 50% off somehow hurts them. I bet these are the same kinds of people who go into supermarkets and start slapping coupons out of little old ladies' hands.

#2) In Conquest and Assault matches, nobody's capturing the points. Gameplay has not changed one iota. It's still just blob vs. blob. If half-off Stormcrows aren't enough to incentivize the players to play these game modes, then there needs to be a hard look taken at fixing the game modes.

A big step in that direction would be bringing back Repair and Reload. Positive reinforcement (giving people a discount) doesn't seem to work; maybe some negative reinforcement will do the trick. People may be less willing to just wade in and start shooting if getting blown up is going to cost them. It will also help with issues of game balance. LRMpocolypse won't be such a problem if every volley has a c-bill amount attached to it.

[TheDevilsIncarnate]

Not doing bad in points... Might be able to do 50% off by Sunday!

[Draven Darkshadow]

not realistic for 50% off since its 450k points while we are only at about 168,685 with 36 hours left, if we had another 2 days more we might make the goal on 22nd

[dragnier1]

Draven Darkshadow, on 18 October 2014 - 09:24 PM, said:

not realistic for 50% off since its 450k points while we are only at about 168,685 with 36 hours left, if we had another 2 days more we might make the goal on 22nd

And may i add, the last 24 hours is a working day. I believe school resumes too. At present i'm satisfied with the 40%, an additional 5 would be a bonus.

Edited by dragnier1, 18 October 2014 - 09:54 PM.

[Deathlike]

Currently, we have 171715 after 37 hours (slightly more than 1.5 days of the 3 total).

We're on track to get under 340k (~334148 or 334150) or the 45% discount rate.

Edited by Deathlike, 18 October 2014 - 10:08 PM.

[Johnny Reb]

My guess last night is 330K. I'm good with 45% off, though 50% better is not gonna happen.

At 45% off all 3 crows will be 18.48 mill (each at 6.16). Actually, alittle less I was using 11.2 for all 3 in my calculation.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 18 October 2014 - 10:29 PM.

[Bront]

dragnier1, on 18 October 2014 - 09:54 PM, said:

And may i add, the last 24 hours is a working day. I believe school resumes too. At present i'm satisfied with the 40%, an additional 5 would be a bonus.

It ends monday morning PGI time, so there may be a drop off in games played at the tail end, but with folks all over the world and with different schedules, we'll see. Shame they didn't extend it to tuesday, and I wonder if they'll do something similar in 2 or 4 weeks when the Timberwolf and Warhawk come out (with corresponding discounts on the Orion and Stalker or Battlemaster). I also wonder if we'll get a Shadowhawk hero released next week (and at a discount!)

Johnny Reb, on 18 October 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:

My guess last night is 330K. I'm good with 45% off, though 50% better is not gonna happen.

At 45% off all 3 crows will be 18.48 mill. Actually, alittle less I was using 11.2 for all 3 in my calculation.

May want to check your math. I was getting 15.12 mil

Edit: and doing the math wrong on my end. Nevermind

Edited by Bront, 19 October 2014 - 06:14 AM.

[Deathlike]

Bront, on 18 October 2014 - 10:26 PM, said:

It ends monday morning PGI time, so there may be a drop off in games played at the tail end, but with folks all over the world and with different schedules, we'll see. Shame they didn't extend it to tuesday, and I wonder if they'll do something similar in 2 or 4 weeks when the Timberwolf and Warhawk come out (with corresponding discounts on the Orion and Stalker or Battlemaster). I also wonder if we'll get a Shadowhawk hero released next week (and at a discount!)

It ends on Monday morning "PGI patch hour".

If the thing extended a day, I don't think it would help much, but it would close the gap quite a bit based on the projections.

For instance, if PGI changed the scoring and/or incentives once coming to work on Monday and analyzing.. it is possible to create a "mad dash" to hit 50% on the last day.

It's an opportunity, but I doubt PGI would capitalize on it.

[Johnny Reb]

Well 11.2 x .45 is 5.04. Then 11.2 minus 5.04 is 6.16, the price per mech. Times that by 3 and I get 18.48. That is my math whats yours?

edit@bront

Edited by Johnny Reb, 18 October 2014 - 10:40 PM.

[Deathlike]

Here are two easy ways of "ramping up activity", both with actual "incentives".

1) "Swap" the scoring of Assault+Conquest, where wins by "deathmatch" is 20 pts and wins by "objective" is 10. This will almost "double" the point output from these modes.

2) If the tourney determined that Paul would "shave his head" as a 50% win condition, I WOULD BE ALL FOR IT. Maybe nothing as serious as that, but... a man has to dream.

These are simply thoughts on the table.

[White Bear 84]

Sucks to have the full phoenix AND full clan pack...

#firstworldproblem

Edited by White Bear 84, 18 October 2014 - 11:31 PM.

[Johnny Reb]

White Bear 84, on 18 October 2014 - 11:15 PM, said:

Sucks to have the full phoenix AND full clan pack...

#firstworldproblem

Yeah, your screwed unless mechbays go for cbills! Heh.