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[Bophades]

PANTHER!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Ren Kurogane]

I...I'll just wait for the C-Bills version. They are all awesome, but unfortunately i've found myself bored of humanoid mechs (also the reason why i don't really like my summoner).

But still, it's a nice pack!

[Joe Mallad]

Zerandir, on 21 October 2014 - 05:10 AM, said:

Iam amazed why someone has problems with this. Why is it "ok" when someone pays 600 USD for spaceship in SC and yet its totaly out of the line when PGI gives us 60 days of premium time, 6 color packs, 8 normal mechs, 4 hero mechs and 12 mech bays for 80 USD? Its hell of a deal! Those of us who couldnt afford founder or phoenix packs back in the days were asking for this. Now when we have the money we have an option to spend them on IS pack. What is wrong with this? Nobody is forcing anybody to buy this. So why being angry and bicker "bout another mech pack". And btw yes, iam here from the release of beta so i was here when "bad bad IGP" was there.

as was I and I'm very happy with the way PGI has been going. Is there still issues with the game? Yes. Can the game get better? Yes. But at least with PGI running the show and not having to answer to IGP and their "evil" ways it really looks like PGI is at least trying to improve the game rathe than "just" their pocket book like IGP wanted.

Discarius, on 21 October 2014 - 05:17 AM, said:

I...I'll just wait for the C-Bills version. They are all awesome, but unfortunately i've found myself bored of humanoid mechs (also the reason why i don't really like my summoner).

But still, it's a nice pack!

um... They are all humanoid. Right?

[Belorion]

Chrona, on 21 October 2014 - 04:48 AM, said:

No Cyclops or Black Knight. Iffy.

but i'll probably get it anyway because i suck

You know if it had gone the other way there would be people posting about No Grasshopper, or Zues...

I am definitely getting it.

[mad kat]

Now trying to Decide if i should buy 3 shadowhawks (not used them so far) in today's sale and get the phranken colour scheme with them or buy the panther and the Phranken with current MC balance or the crusader package £9.25, £12.40 or £25.5 on a game i've allready spent plenty on. decisions decisions.

The way my wife has me trained think going for the 45% off Shadow hawks and a cool camo pattern makes more sense.

Edited by mad kat, 21 October 2014 - 05:52 AM.

[StormPaladin99]

I like the panther so I will buy that but I wont buy the other mechs I'm not going to use. If the next IS pack includes firefly/wolfhound (either would be great) the vulcan, black knight, and cyclops I would buy it in an instant.

Also as always props to the art team.

[Hawk819]

Any idea on how long the sale will go for? Cause I've already planned out the Man O'War package, $60 for the Fenris Package Nov. 3rd, and the rest on December 3rd.

[C E Dwyer]

ohh my oh my !!!
wallet open and waiting

[HumpingBunny]

When can we buy?

[Iyica de Tylmarande]

No Crab

[Lemming211]

Iyica de Tylmarande, on 21 October 2014 - 06:18 AM, said:

No Crab

Yeah, this is disappointing. But I'm happy about the Zeus.

[Greenjulius]

Let me do this with the Davion/FedSuns faction colors and you will have my undying gratitude!

Props to Viereth for the amazing art!

Edited by Greenjulius, 21 October 2014 - 06:22 AM.

[F R A N C I S]

Russ Bullock, on 20 October 2014 - 03:15 PM, said:

To qualify for the Atlas S you just need to have bought any previous package but I see now that we may need to extend the Loyalty program for the Atlas a little longer - perhaps until the end of Oct.

Great news Russ... but I'm hoping this won't delay us getting our atlas'

[Mott]

I went to bed convinced i'd be spending the full $80... and then after doing some cursory research into the variants of all 4 mechs i realized that only the Enforcer is going to be "worth it" in terms of bringing something new and/or better to its respective weight class.

Zeus - will suck for the same reasons the Awesome and Battlemasters are really only piloted by fans who love them from lore. Big, slow, easy to hit, easily overheated, easy to kill.

Grasshopper - dumbest choice possible. A jumper with subpar weapons loadouts compared to the CTF-3D. Why... why would it be considered at a time we need an IS mech 75Ter to compete against timberwolves?

Panther - a 68kph light. A 68kph light. Nothing more needs to be said.
But, if i were to say more i'd also have to point out the horrendous weapons hardpoints that essentially limits it to 1 energy and 2 srms. Slow and underpowered... a surefire recipe for fun. lol

Getting the King Crab was a good reason to buy in too... until i realized i currently have unbasic'd Stalkers, Battlemasters and Direwolves waiting in my garage because the game Qs are always ALWAYS sitting at 35+% assaults and the wait times are horrendous so i never get to play them. Buying the full pack would just give me 2 more assaults i can never play enough to master. Sad, really. Stupid broken playerbase.

Edited by Mott, 21 October 2014 - 06:28 AM.

[Belorion]

Mott, on 21 October 2014 - 06:27 AM, said:

the game Qs are always ALWAYS sitting at 35+% assaults and the wait times are horrendous so i never get to play them. Buying the full pack would just give me 2 more assaults i can never play enough to master. Sad, really. Stupid broken playerbase.

Heavy is usually the highest %...

[Greenjulius]

Mott, on 21 October 2014 - 06:27 AM, said:

I went to bed convinced i'd be spending the full $80... and then after doing some cursory research into the variants of all 4 mechs i realized that only the Enforcer is going to be "worth it" in terms of bringing something new and/or better to its respective weight class.
Zeus - will suck for the same reasons the Awesome and Battlemasters are really only piloted by fans who love them from lore. Big, slow, easy to hit, easily overheated, easy to kill.

I agree on the Zeus, but not the Battlemaster. Have you ever run a WubMaster, or a 1S LRM boat? Some of the best in their class! The Zeus can be saved with some clever hardpoints and hitboxes.

Mott, on 21 October 2014 - 06:27 AM, said:

Grasshopper - dumbest choice possible. A jumper with subpar weapons loadouts compared to the CTF-3D. Why... why would it be considered at a time we need an IS mech 75Ter to compete against timberwolves?

I don't agree with this one. The first Zombie Heavy, with jump capability? Sign me up! It's looking slimmer than the CTF too, so it should hopefully have favorable hitboxes. Nothing will ever compete with the Timber God. It's simply a broken mech that needs nerfed. It SHOULD NOT have jump jets.

Mott, on 21 October 2014 - 06:27 AM, said:

Panther - a 68kph light. A 68kph light. Nothing more needs to be said.
But, if i were to say more i'd also have to point out the horrendous weapons hardpoints that essentially limits it to 1 energy and 2 srms. Slow and underpowered... a surefire recipe for fun. lol

Like all IS mechs, I'm sure PGI will allow us to change the engine greatly. I can forsee the Panther becoming something like a Vindicator, but hopefully faster and less mediocre. I definitely agree with you though, the Panther will need help.

Mott, on 21 October 2014 - 06:27 AM, said:

Getting the King Crab was a good reason to buy in too... until i realized i currently have unbasic'd Stalkers, Battlemasters and Direwolves waiting in my garage because the game Qs are always ALWAYS sitting at 35+% assaults and the wait times are horrendous so i never get to play them. Buying the full pack would just give me 2 more assaults i can never play enough to master. Sad, really. Stupid broken playerbase.

Yeah, I can't disagree with you there. You should thank all those pilots who take one for the team and run Mediums and Lights. Everyone wants to be a big stompy mech. No one cares for grace and speed. Silly ppl.

I'll probably get the whole pack for CW. I can see most of these, especially the Enforcer and Grasshopper, being a great answer to those saying the Clans are more suited to CW.

Edited by Greenjulius, 21 October 2014 - 06:54 AM.

[Lemming211]

Mott, on 21 October 2014 - 06:27 AM, said:

Getting the King Crab was a good reason to buy in too... until i realized i currently have unbasic'd Stalkers, Battlemasters and Direwolves waiting in my garage because the game Qs are always ALWAYS sitting at 35+% assaults and the wait times are horrendous so i never get to play them. Buying the full pack would just give me 2 more assaults i can never play enough to master. Sad, really. Stupid broken playerbase.

Hopefully the quirks will change the usefulness of the lights and mediums and drive more players toward those mechs. I've never had a problem with queue times though, I just tab over to Chrome if it takes longer than 30 seconds.

[Belorion]

Actually if they just fix the TW hitboxes it will bring it back down in level with the other mechs. Right now it is way more resilient than it should be. There are areas on the left and right torso's where hitting it does absolutely nothing.

Fix those and they will be squishier than a catapult.

[Greenjulius]

Belorion, on 21 October 2014 - 06:47 AM, said:

Actually if they just fix the TW hitboxes it will bring it back down in level with the other mechs. Right now it is way more resilient than it should be. There are areas on the left and right torso's where hitting it does absolutely nothing.

Fix those and they will be squishier than a catapult.

Yeah, that would help. It can still spread damage too easily though. The bigger issue is the broken jump jet animation that throws off everything. Just remove the JJs from Timbers -> Problem solved. Much complaining from the tryhard crowd will ensue. Then they will just have to shut up or try another mech.

[Mott]

Greenjulius, on 21 October 2014 - 06:42 AM, said:

I agree on the Zeus, but not the Battlemaster. Have you ever run a WubMaster, or a 1S LRM boat? Some of the best in their class! The Zeus can be saved with some clever hardpoints and hitboxes.


I don't agree with this one. The first Zombie Heavy, with jump capability? Sign me up! It's looking slimmer than the CTF too, so it should hopefully have favorable hitboxes. Nothing will ever compete with the Timber God. It's simply a broken mech that needs nerfed. It SHOULD NOT have jump jets.


Like all IS mechs, I'm sure PGI will allow us to change the engine greatly. I can forsee the Panther becoming something like a Vindicator, but hopefully faster and less mediocre. I definitely agree with you though, the Panther will need help.


I'll probably get the whole pack for CW. I can see most of these, especially the Enforcer and Grasshopper, being a great answer to those saying the Clans are more suited to CW.

- I like the Battlemasters, but just find they die a little too easily compared to other heavies and assaults.

- Jump-sniping is nearly dead. Introducing the grasshopper now is... pointless. It's a lesser mech than those we already have in the IS, at a time we need something infinitely better. Unless the hitboxes are borked, it being slimmer than the CTF is a non-factor. The summoner is slimmer than the timberwolf... yet it falls apart under half the fire that the timberwolf can walk out of unscathed. The width of a mech that moves slower than 100kph doesn't matter one iota to its survivability.
It's a zombie with missiles, correct? I guess it remains to be seen how viable that is, but somehow i doubt that's going to jump it from a T3 heavy, which is where i place it behind the T1 CTF and T1/T2 JM6 2xAC20 or 2xGauss.

- You're right, they could break lore/sarna and open up the engine limits on the Panther, which would go a long way to improving its viability. I would definitely wait to buy until that is confirmed 100% though.