Nice One
#1
Posted 21 October 2014 - 02:59 PM
especially new rewards system - great
and fall speed limits - great
i´m not so happy about fixing the JJs in omnipods, but ok
fix for weapon groups still missed... .
#2
Posted 21 October 2014 - 08:02 PM
#3
Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:44 AM
So what in the good god hell is this bull crap about not letting me remove the jump jets from the Omnipods of my TimberWolf? Totally not lore friendly and totally bullshit, I want to be able to have a Torso mounted Laser on my Timber with out having a system i never freaken use and being cut down in ammo for weight where my LRMs are good for maybe two shots? wtf guys.. really?
#4
Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:52 AM
#5
Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:04 AM
Bohnner, on 21 October 2014 - 08:02 PM, said:
In what way are they not Omni? I cant seem to find any information on Sarna saying these changes have anything to do with the Omni system. Actually Sarna even has information, that these changes fixing the Jumpjets in place are cannon,
#6
Posted 30 October 2014 - 07:21 AM
Rushin Roulette, on 30 October 2014 - 01:04 AM, said:
Canon does not shoot.
And the omni-pods are still very much omni ... you can swap out weapon hardpoints willy-nilly, giving you almost endless variation and adaptability. Try doing that with any IS-'mech. The downside is you get locked equipment like engines, jumpjets, heatsinks, etc.
Fair trade. Get over it.
Timbers and foxes not having fixed JJs was an OVERSIGHT, wich was corrected.
Lt Badger, on 21 October 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:
fix for weapon groups still missed... .
I think they said something about having it fixed soon-ish ...gonna have to dig around some.
There, from one of the more recent threads about the bug:
Ricky Cheung, on 23 October 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:
Thanks.
Edited by Ironwithin, 30 October 2014 - 07:28 AM.
#7
Posted 30 October 2014 - 07:56 AM
Rushin Roulette, on 30 October 2014 - 01:04 AM, said:
You can change anything with an Open Mechlab. Technically the Omnipod change-outs do not require a full Mechlab. That's why they are better than Inner Sphere standard mechs of 3050, which require a full Open Mechlab to make any change to stock configs.
So in essence PGI has given Inner Sphere an Open Mechlab and Clan Tech a Closed Mechlab. A fact which all too often is overlooked for the convenience of TT fabrications.
Now I go along with this as a balance for Clan Tech so long as all the Mechs and variants are functionally balanced, but this can't be done when fixed jump jets are added to the list of fixed equipment since only a few Clan mechs have jump-jets in their stock loadout designs and full jump-jets will consume 20-25% of the mech's payload space. It's just not balanced and this is obvious to everyone.
#8
Posted 30 October 2014 - 09:00 AM
Lightfoot, on 30 October 2014 - 07:56 AM, said:
You can change anything with an Open Mechlab. Technically the Omnipod change-outs do not require a full Mechlab. That's why they are better than Inner Sphere standard mechs of 3050, which require a full Open Mechlab to make any change to stock configs.
So in essence PGI has given Inner Sphere an Open Mechlab and Clan Tech a Closed Mechlab. A fact which all too often is overlooked for the convenience of TT fabrications.
Now I go along with this as a balance for Clan Tech so long as all the Mechs and variants are functionally balanced, but this can't be done when fixed jump jets are added to the list of fixed equipment since only a few Clan mechs have jump-jets in their stock loadout designs and full jump-jets will consume 20-25% of the mech's payload space. It's just not balanced and this is obvious to everyone.
See, this is where so many people are completely wrong. Omni Mechs means you can change weapons willy nilly. However any eqipment is fixed (Jumpjets, structure, engine etc.). You can change the equipment on an Omni mech once. However after that change, the Omnimech is no longer Omni, but a standard Battlemech like any of the IS mechs.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Omnimech
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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:35 PM
Rushin Roulette, on 30 October 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:
See, this is where so many people are completely wrong. Omni Mechs means you can change weapons willy nilly. However any eqipment is fixed (Jumpjets, structure, engine etc.). You can change the equipment on an Omni mech once. However after that change, the Omnimech is no longer Omni, but a standard Battlemech like any of the IS mechs.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Omnimech
Please note that the modifications they are talking about are "Field Modifications". Once any mech is in Mechlab it's component and weapon placement can be redesigned. That's why Inner Sphere mechs can modify anything in a few seconds, something that is not possible outside of a total redesign in Mechlab. Mechlab is really part of MechWarrior rather than Battle Tech so each game changes how Mechlab works. PGI is just making a mistake with making the Jump-Jets part of the fixed Clan equipment. It serves no purpose except to cloud the real issues.
Also remember that we do not have TT Clan omni hardpoint omni-pods, we have stock mech omni-pods. Hardpoints are not Canon, not present in Battle Tech.
Anyway, unless a massive number of Quirks are piled on the Summoner, I think maybe no one will use it in a few months. And it's not that the Timber Wolf is better than it should be. The Timber Wolf is actually very balanced and very canon. I just can't imagine a MechWarrior game with no Thor. Say it isn't so.
Edited by Lightfoot, 30 October 2014 - 01:50 PM.
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