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[3xnihilo]

You can check score on the link on the first post of this thread

Edited by 3xnihilo, 26 October 2014 - 09:40 AM.

[DarthPeanut]

Deadsmiley, on 26 October 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

n00b question, how do I check my position on the leader board. Can't seem to locate that.

http://mwomercs.com/tournaments

[Joe Mallad]

Deadsmiley, on 26 October 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

n00b question, how do I check my position on the leader board. Can't seem to locate that.

i asked the same thing lol. An found out that my games I played in didn't get counted because they were loses by my "team". Even tho a few of those games were really good games as far as numbers I put up lol. Oh, but it's supposed to be a solo contest... Of which my solo work doesn't get counted unless my "team" wins lol.

Otherwise, if you your team did win... Go to the contest page and click on the mech type you are using and scroll down to the bottom of that field and I guess it's supposed to show where you stand. But it updates every 15 minutes. So you may have to wait.

[Inveramsay]

Cathy, on 26 October 2014 - 02:47 AM, said:

I won't be opting in to anymore SOLO challenges, where you have to rely on your TEAM, to not be a bunch of noobs to win.

To say I'm slightly pissed at seeing good damage/kill scores invalided as the team collaspes is an under statement

I've not seen so many rolls for, or so many dumb solo charges for ages

do team stuff or pure solo

I've had some of my best matches and by that I don't mean my kill streaks but rather genuinely good games this weekend. I put it down to the amount of good players out there. I'm currently #16 in the T-bolt leaderboard and I seem to get matched against many of the other top ranked players leading to interesting games almost completely lacking in noobs.

It'll be interesting to see if they do this again after the quirk pass

[Deadsmiley]

Thank you for the replies kind people. I see it now. I have no chance... LOL

[GRAND MASTER GORE]

that solo games are annoying... team kills, bad teams and LRM-Spams

Edited by Grand Gore, 26 October 2014 - 10:00 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Grand Gore, on 26 October 2014 - 10:00 AM, said:

that solo games are annoying... team kills, bad teams and LRM-Spams

where are you playing, I have seen 2 teamkills so far over the weekend, its not more than usual here.

[Joe Mallad]

I just don't like that they call it a solo contests and you had to drop solo but your penalized by the "team" mechanic if its a lose.

People as solo players in a solo contest are really having great games. But then it doesn't count because the team you are forced to play with does not play as a team lol.

Was in a game where I died early on because of the horrid lag. But one guy on my team ended up being the last guy left on our team, had 10 assists, 7 kills and a bunch of other points for savior kills and so on. And it came down to him and 2 enemy and he was killed. Probably the best game I have seen from one guy in a log time and it was all for nothing because our team lost.

[Bront]

Chimperator, on 26 October 2014 - 07:00 AM, said:

The way to win the challenges/tournaments is... shut down all brain functions take a LRMboat do nothing and watin for locks...and junst grind the whole weekend....
This is how u can get the top 1-5..

Just awesome PGI !!!

LRMs are horable to compete if that's all your carrying. You rarely have full control of your own kills or damage due to so many other functions. I doubt any of the top 5 on any build relied on LRMS solely.

Deadsmiley, on 26 October 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

n00b question, how do I check my position on the leader board. Can't seem to locate that.

Log in, and then look at the lists. Only wins score, so if you don't have a win, you won't have a score.

[Kodyn]

Grateful for the chance, however miniscule, to win free stuff, but I'm on board the whole "stop making solo challenges require team wins" boat...

So very frustrating and disappointing to grind out all weekend, have some amazing matches, good damage, good teamwork by a few, good assists, etc, then still lose and have nothing count due to some pugs not knowing about/caring about a tourney going on.

Also feels like there's no way to win on a US time zone, since every time you sleep, you drop down the list, and whoever has the last timezone of the tourney has a huge advantage. They can wait and see where everyone lands, then grind their own score to the top of the list, and stop, knowing no one else has time to catch up. Any timezone but the last one before the tourney ends has the disadvantage of knowing that their score can just be forced down the list by whoever comes next. Kind of feels like what could have been a fun tourney is just a bit of abuse....you want to have a chance at winning? Don't sleep all weekend, or have the best luck with PUGs ever imaginable.

Guess my biggest wish is just that any event where your own score is less important than how poorly your pugs do, you got a bigger prize, since you're entirely relying on pugs...so if you can manage to herd those cats, and still get a good personal score, you deserve something for it. Otherwise, just take the wins out of the equation, so it's actually based on pilot skill, and not luck of the draw, and we can have an enjoyable tourney for once.

Edited by Kodyn, 26 October 2014 - 10:53 AM.

[DocBach]

I wish we got 10,000,000 c-bills again for participating

[_____]

Kodyn, on 26 October 2014 - 10:52 AM, said:

Also feels like there's no way to win on a US time zone, since every time you sleep, you drop down the list, and whoever has the last timezone of the tourney has a huge advantage.

You just need to stay awake until Tuesday 12 midnight PST (3am EST) right Not like you have to go to work/school or anything.

Edited by BlackhawkSC, 26 October 2014 - 11:18 AM.

[Tarogato]

DocBach, on 26 October 2014 - 11:08 AM, said:

I wish we got 10,000,000 c-bills again for participating

CBills based on your rank would be nice. Maybe 12,000,000 for #1, and have it trickle down with a curve. #10 would get 10,000,000, #20 gets 8,000,000, #40 gets 6,000,000, etc.

[The Flying Gecko]

Tournament relies just as much on luck as skill.

800 damage? 6 kills? To bad! Your team sucks and you lose! NO POINTS 4 U!!

[Kodyn]

The luck part is what bothers me...I understand PGI doesn't have to give us any contests and any free stuff, but if you're gonna do it, don't make it based on a dice roll. If people wanted to be playing a TT game, they would be off doing that, online games such as this are generally more about personal skill.

Now if we had TS3 as part of the game, everyone knew it was a team game, and there were penalties built in for hurting your team's chance of winning, ok, make team wins more important, but right now, with the state of PUGs in this game...this really is a challenge that seems designed to annoy the piss out of anyone trying to make top 10. Do you really want your players to feel as though the game they play for fun is work? These sorts of event promote that...either work harder than you ever did at a real job, or don't bother, since skill has little to do with it, based on the scoring algorithm.

[3xnihilo]

*sobs into pillow* I just had the best match I have ever played and . . . LOSS.

Well I guess it was still really fun so I will console myself with that.

[Scout Derek]

Man, im in 2nd place for the Summoner!!!!! May or may not stay there... a shoutout to nightmare on his hunchie chasis and to keez in the mad dog. (Btw, he and i are in the same unit) As to the first place holder... good job ~Scout Derek, the Merc from Eclipse Mercs Corps.

[Bront]

Kodyn, on 26 October 2014 - 10:52 AM, said:

Grateful for the chance, however miniscule, to win free stuff, but I'm on board the whole "stop making solo challenges require team wins" boat...

So very frustrating and disappointing to grind out all weekend, have some amazing matches, good damage, good teamwork by a few, good assists, etc, then still lose and have nothing count due to some pugs not knowing about/caring about a tourney going on.

Also feels like there's no way to win on a US time zone, since every time you sleep, you drop down the list, and whoever has the last timezone of the tourney has a huge advantage. They can wait and see where everyone lands, then grind their own score to the top of the list, and stop, knowing no one else has time to catch up. Any timezone but the last one before the tourney ends has the disadvantage of knowing that their score can just be forced down the list by whoever comes next. Kind of feels like what could have been a fun tourney is just a bit of abuse....you want to have a chance at winning? Don't sleep all weekend, or have the best luck with PUGs ever imaginable.

Guess my biggest wish is just that any event where your own score is less important than how poorly your pugs do, you got a bigger prize, since you're entirely relying on pugs...so if you can manage to herd those cats, and still get a good personal score, you deserve something for it. Otherwise, just take the wins out of the equation, so it's actually based on pilot skill, and not luck of the draw, and we can have an enjoyable tourney for once.

I disagree. The point of wins is that it promotes teamwork over showing up your teammates. Some tactics that get you more kills, assists, and damage don't also help your team win, and that's frustrating to everyone.

As I've said several times, when you play with a group that plays as a team, you tend to score better anyway. Teammates help you live longer, help wear down your kills, and kill other things to give you assists. It's a lot easier to kick butt and take names when there's 3 teammates next to you prividing fire support and meat shields.

[Tigris]

Maybe I'm crazy, but isn't the math off? With the way it is now you'll end up with a negative score. Even if they're just flipping the sign to get your score, then your kills, assists, and wins count against you.

(Kills*20)+(Assists*10)+((Damage done - Team Damage done)/15)+(Wins*20)

If they made it Team Damage - Damage/15, then you still get less points for doing more damage. The best way would be:

(Kills*20)+(Assists*10)+((Team Damage/Damage)*200)+(Wins*20)

Maybe you guys have already caught this.

[Barkem Squirrel]

Unlike the last tournament I have only seen two team kills this weekend. Team damage has not been an issue so far this weekend.