Jump to content

Chassis Leaderboard - Wow


182 replies to this topic

#141 KuroNyra

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 2,990 posts
  • LocationIdiot's Crater.

Posted 26 October 2014 - 02:16 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 October 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

Well, you are not alone, lol.

It's just funny...how desperately he needs to prove himself, that the one time he kills me.....it's monumental to him. Pretty sad, actually. Kinda glad I live in a foreign country. Kinda worried he'd be lurking outside my house, next.


I would lose my mind too if I had the chance to kill you in a battle.
Sadly I know for a fact that you could easyly kill me with only a locust with a small laser.

Edited by KuroNyra, 26 October 2014 - 02:16 AM.


#142 Mudhutwarrior

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The 1 Percent
  • The 1 Percent
  • 4,183 posts
  • LocationThe perimieter, out here there are no stars.

Posted 26 October 2014 - 02:57 AM

The whole leaderboard is a fraud like most everything else. Synch dropping into solo does not make you a killer. it makes you lame. Sorry but I know a couple in there only synch and admit it openly.

Its the easy path and as we know the majority always takes the easy path then the ego and lies come out.

If you guys really want to know who is on top track the group players and shun the synch droppers. Of course that wont happen as fraud is the order of the day here.

#143 KuroNyra

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 2,990 posts
  • LocationIdiot's Crater.

Posted 26 October 2014 - 03:19 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 26 October 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

The whole leaderboard is a fraud like most everything else. Synch dropping into solo does not make you a killer. it makes you lame. Sorry but I know a couple in there only synch and admit it openly.

Its the easy path and as we know the majority always takes the easy path then the ego and lies come out.

If you guys really want to know who is on top track the group players and shun the synch droppers. Of course that wont happen as fraud is the order of the day here.

QQQ?

Jealous?
Butthurt?


Some guy are that good.
Take a look at some locust pilot, they can do wonders with piece of trash.

#144 Orbit Rain

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 500 posts

Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:35 AM

View PostKuroNyra, on 26 October 2014 - 03:19 AM, said:

QQQ?

Jealous?
Butthurt?


Some guy are that good.
Take a look at some locust pilot, they can do wonders with piece of trash.


Posted Image

lol....Hate to break it to ya' Kuro, but there are a ton of people in this world willing to game a system to get seven bucks...lol. I''m not at Mud's level of everyone's sync'ing all the time, but I've heard of a few big groups that do and have done it, taking the top spot in a bracket. I doubt it's worth PGI's time to delve into the data to tease out who's doing it, and it may good for them because it gets a larger group of people to sit around on comms and play their game. If it were worth more money, you might expect regulatory authorities to get involved. But this is peanuts, and it doesn't seem Canada is quite the litigious place the States are, so it's under the radar of lawyers looking to make a killing for themselves under the moniker of class-action "justice"

...and yes, the LCT (1E anyways) is a BAMF.

I'm gonna be doing yard work today, not sure if I want to keep grinding at it later today and again tomorrow.

#145 Mudhutwarrior

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The 1 Percent
  • The 1 Percent
  • 4,183 posts
  • LocationThe perimieter, out here there are no stars.

Posted 26 October 2014 - 06:23 AM

View PostKuroNyra, on 26 October 2014 - 03:19 AM, said:

QQQ?

Jealous?
Butthurt?


Some guy are that good.
Take a look at some locust pilot, they can do wonders with piece of trash.


None of the above. I believe in real honor and integrity in anything I do. I think most though can easily justify having something up their sleeve if it gets them what they want. It just goes to character, something I can easily say by experience most people lack. I'm on an island and not the one most jackasses here whine about. Happy to be on that island and not see you there.

#146 Michael Abt

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The People's Hero
  • The People
  • 470 posts
  • LocationEurope

Posted 26 October 2014 - 07:46 AM

View PostJman5, on 26 October 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

This is now a Hunchback thread.

KAPOW!

Spoiler



Tier-5 Hunch coming through.

Spoiler


#147 KuroNyra

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 2,990 posts
  • LocationIdiot's Crater.

Posted 26 October 2014 - 07:49 AM

View PostOrbit Rain, on 26 October 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:


Posted Image

lol....Hate to break it to ya' Kuro, but there are a ton of people in this world willing to game a system to get seven bucks...lol. I''m not at Mud's level of everyone's sync'ing all the time, but I've heard of a few big groups that do and have done it, taking the top spot in a bracket. I doubt it's worth PGI's time to delve into the data to tease out who's doing it, and it may good for them because it gets a larger group of people to sit around on comms and play their game. If it were worth more money, you might expect regulatory authorities to get involved. But this is peanuts, and it doesn't seem Canada is quite the litigious place the States are, so it's under the radar of lawyers looking to make a killing for themselves under the moniker of class-action "justice"

...and yes, the LCT (1E anyways) is a BAMF.

I'm gonna be doing yard work today, not sure if I want to keep grinding at it later today and again tomorrow.

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 26 October 2014 - 06:23 AM, said:


None of the above. I believe in real honor and integrity in anything I do. I think most though can easily justify having something up their sleeve if it gets them what they want. It just goes to character, something I can easily say by experience most people lack. I'm on an island and not the one most jackasses here whine about. Happy to be on that island and not see you there.



I am aware of the syncdrop. And I apologise if I offended anyone by my previous post.
But if some people are treacherous and are using such tactics. It is not enought to be globalised the whole population of player.


I am probably too much optimist. But I feel like most of the player in the leaderboard challenge did not used such tricks in order to get so hight.


Personatly, I opted in the challenge, but I just play normally.




View PostMichael Abt, on 26 October 2014 - 07:46 AM, said:


Tier-5 Hunch coming through.

Spoiler



Hunch is OP. Nerf it. :P

Edited by KuroNyra, 26 October 2014 - 07:49 AM.


#148 a gaijin

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 1,003 posts
  • LocationUS Naval Base, Yokosuka, Japan

Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:36 AM

View PostXarian, on 24 October 2014 - 01:21 PM, said:

These tournaments reward the worst kind of vulture behavior there is - just like all the other ones.

The real reason PGI is running these tournaments is to collect data on these chassis so that they have a metric on game balance. For the vultures out there: please just stop playing - you're making the game un-fun for everybody else.

View Postshad0w4life, on 24 October 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:



That Win requirement needs to go away, relying on people to play smart isn't good. Very infuriating!




I feel the pain. The "kill" requirement needs to be removed. It happened a few times today: strip ALL an enemy's armor just to have someone shove in and then deliver the killing blow.




The most annoying time was right after I stripped a CN9-AH of ALL its front (both ST & CT) torso armor and a timber wolf shoves in front of me obviously to gank the kill. So....(I'm max zoom as usual and trying to shoot around him) I shoot THROUGH its right shoulder launcher and end up removing his right arm but unfortunately he still got the killing blow.


Perfect example of a vulture.




View PostVassago Rain, on 24 October 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

And yes, the good players do know things other than their meta. They generally play every mech that releases, no matter how awful it happens to be.

The meta is boring and everyone should pilot whichever mech+weapon config they like regardless of any 'handicaps' it is perceived to have.
I always smile when those anti-meta mechs happen to have either the most kills/assists and/or highest damage counts

#149 Eboli

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 1,148 posts
  • LocationCanberra, Australia

Posted 26 October 2014 - 03:18 PM

Query,

In solo queue last night I queried about a possible sync drop of 3 members from the same unit. They openly admitted that it was their intention. One of the players happens to be in the top 10 for the current Tournament. I do have screenshots of admission and their results.

Is this fair? Should it be allowed? If such persons were not in the top rankings I would probably leave things alone but because there is an advantage being in a successful solo sync drop where prizes are a stake I think this is taking things a little it too far.

What is the general opinion about this?

Cheers!
Eboli.

Posted Image

Posted Image

Posted Image

Edited by Eboli, 26 October 2014 - 03:32 PM.


#150 Michael Abt

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The People's Hero
  • The People
  • 470 posts
  • LocationEurope

Posted 26 October 2014 - 03:49 PM

Tournament rules say: "Only solo matches will be counted. Private and group matches will NOT be counted." The intention of that rule is clear, so sync dropping is exploiting a weakness in order to regain the group advantage. My opinion.

#151 ShinobiHunter

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bad Company
  • Bad Company
  • 1,009 posts
  • LocationPennsylvania

Posted 26 October 2014 - 04:54 PM

Personally I would report it and let PGI sort it out.

#152 AntiCitizenJuan

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,440 posts
  • LocationIn your base, killing your dudes

Posted 26 October 2014 - 04:57 PM

I'm not really sure if the scoring system is wonky or I'm just **** at the game now

#153 beerandasmoke

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts

Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:37 PM

View PostEboli, on 26 October 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Query,

In solo queue last night I queried about a possible sync drop of 3 members from the same unit. They openly admitted that it was their intention. One of the players happens to be in the top 10 for the current Tournament. I do have screenshots of admission and their results.

Is this fair? Should it be allowed? If such persons were not in the top rankings I would probably leave things alone but because there is an advantage being in a successful solo sync drop where prizes are a stake I think this is taking things a little it too far.

What is the general opinion about this?

Cheers!
Eboli.

Posted Image

Posted Image

Posted Image

But But But Syncdrop doesnt work according to the syncdroppers lol. Just look at it as they have to make up for a lack of skill. Doing things on your own is scary and its always best if you can game the system. Inflated K/D and winrate have to be maintained even if they have been padded in the group que lol.

#154 Krivvan

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Littlest Helper
  • Littlest Helper
  • 4,318 posts
  • LocationUSA/Canada

Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:38 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 26 October 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

The whole leaderboard is a fraud like most everything else. Synch dropping into solo does not make you a killer. it makes you lame. Sorry but I know a couple in there only synch and admit it openly.

I know many of the matches I drop in have other lord players, but we do not attempt to sync drop (in fact, we would prefer it if we didn't sync drop in my experience). Many of us streamed our games so it's pretty clear that we don't. At least 25% of my games have 3-4 other unit members in them on both teams.

I imagine some would also sarcastically joke about syncdropping. I know I probably have at least once.

View Postbeerandasmoke, on 26 October 2014 - 05:37 PM, said:

Inflated K/D and winrate have to be maintained even if they have been padded in the group que lol.

How does having other good players on the other team do one's K/D any favours?

Edited by Krivvan, 26 October 2014 - 05:41 PM.


#155 beerandasmoke

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts

Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:45 PM

View PostKrivvan, on 26 October 2014 - 05:38 PM, said:

I know many of the matches I drop in have other lord players, but we do not attempt to sync drop (in fact, we would prefer it if we didn't sync drop in my experience). Many of us streamed our games so it's pretty clear that we don't. At least 25% of my games have 3-4 other unit members in them on both teams.

I imagine some would also sarcastically joke about syncdropping. I know I probably have at least once.
So having 11 other lords players on your team then waiting for the matchmaker to stretch after 2minutes to find you any match isnt padding? Lol individual skill is what it is. If you have to syncdrop in the soloque than obviously you have serious issues about your skill level.

How does having other good players on the other team do one's K/D any favours?

Edited by beerandasmoke, 26 October 2014 - 05:46 PM.


#156 beerandasmoke

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts

Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:48 PM

odd how my responses all got boxed in. I think most of the player base would agree syncdropping is a cheat. Im sure the Lords wouldnt do anything like that because they wouldnt have too do to their skill level. Am I correct?

Edited by beerandasmoke, 26 October 2014 - 05:49 PM.


#157 Krivvan

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Littlest Helper
  • Littlest Helper
  • 4,318 posts
  • LocationUSA/Canada

Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:48 PM

View Postbeerandasmoke, on 26 October 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:

So having 11 other lords players on your team then waiting for the matchmaker to stretch after 2minutes to find you any match isnt padding?

....no? If 6-7 of us are solo queuing and it takes a long time to find a match, the chance we end up in a game together increases. Are you implying that we have some secret ability to delay the matchmaker so that we purposefully all get into a game?

And like I said, many of us stream. On my stream you see me, if anything, purposefully try to avoid dropping with other good players.

View Postbeerandasmoke, on 26 October 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

I think most of the player base would agree syncdropping is a cheat. Im sure the Lords wouldnt do anything like that because they wouldnt have too do to their skill level. Am I correct?

I really don't think you understand the concept of how it would hurt attempts at stat padding to have good players on both teams.

Edited by Krivvan, 26 October 2014 - 05:51 PM.


#158 beerandasmoke

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts

Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:58 PM

How would it hurt your W/L ratio if those players ended up on the same team? Isnt that the whole point of syncdropping? ELO is based off of W/L ratio and not kills. Either way im not going to get into a he said she said arguement. Russ done said he doesnt think its an issue so its just something we have to tolerate solopugging.

#159 Krivvan

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Littlest Helper
  • Littlest Helper
  • 4,318 posts
  • LocationUSA/Canada

Posted 26 October 2014 - 06:04 PM

http://www.twitch.tv...859?t=01h48m11s

http://www.twitch.tv...859?t=02h49m19s

Is this synch dropping to you? How the hell would games like those help me pad my stats?

View Postbeerandasmoke, on 26 October 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

How would it hurt your W/L ratio if those players ended up on the same team? Isnt that the whole point of syncdropping?

You don't end up on the same team with any sort of consistency. You're more likely to end up on opposite teams were someone to attempt synch dropping.

There's even this game here: http://www.twitch.tv...859?t=01h03m20s which was the only example I could find of several of us ending up on the same team. There's nothing said on the teamspeak server and the only communication we had in game is completely visible (it isn't much). It's also a game that does no favours to my stats.

Edited by Krivvan, 26 October 2014 - 06:11 PM.


#160 White Bear 84

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Ace Of Spades
  • Ace Of Spades
  • 3,857 posts

Posted 26 October 2014 - 06:07 PM

The locust score is outrageous; 2100! That is impressive.. ..why?

Assumption 1 - It will not do HUGE amounts of damage, but can get good scores so setting average of 600 damage (40pts)

That leaves 170 points per match...

5 kills = 100
7 assists = 70

Aaaand times that by 10... ...now consider the frequency that kind of score typically happens...

It is impressive either way..





12 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 12 guests, 0 anonymous users