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[Metus regem]

Brody319, on 03 November 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

Adder and the Kit fox are great support mechs. The Kit fox ecm and ams is any assaults best friend. Adder is like having an little pet that sneaks in when they focus on you and stabs them in the shins.

That's how I use both of them, no-one seems to mind... aside from the OpFor....

[Angel of Annihilation]

Alexander MacTaggart, on 03 November 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

Kit Fox honestly only has ~10 tons for weaponry (ECM, triple AMS+ammo will eat up 4-5 tons easily) and that's if you decide to skip JJs.

Ice Ferret will be able to carry a pair of Streak 6s and an ERML, that's pretty respectable firepower going at 140kph. Not going to challenge Stormcrows for medium supremacy but I think it'll make a pretty good light hunter-killer.

First, not many Kits use AAA (literally) so that brings your tonnage total up to 13 tons or almost double what an Ice Ferret can bring to the table. Also your going to be literally twice the size of a Kit Fox without ECM or JJs.

For Comparisons I will use my favorite Kit Fox build vs one of my expected Ice Ferret builds:

Kit Fox Prime:
2 x ER LL
1 x ER ML
1 x ECM
12 DHS
192 Armor
6 JJs
107 kph

Ice Ferret:
2 x ER LL
1 x ER ML
12 DHS
306 Armor
144 kph

So almost identical stats except no ECM for the Ice Ferret and no JJs however, it does have 114 more armor and is going to be 37 kph faster.

Also again going to point out the size difference so even with that speed, the Ice Ferret is going to be easier to target and hit and it has no ECM to hide behind either. Also the lack of JJs is going to really limit and channel how the Ice Ferret can approach the enemy.

Honestly it is going to be very hard to say at this point, how the IF is going to pan out. Hitboxes, hitboxes, hitboxes is my guess. Good and the mech will be decent, bad and it is going to fail.

[Alexander MacTaggart]

Brody319, on 03 November 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

Adder and the Kit fox are great support mechs. The Kit fox ecm and ams is any assaults best friend. Adder is like having an little pet that sneaks in when they focus on you and stabs them in the shins.

This is what everyone that compares Clan lights to IS lights is missing; they don't serve the same purpose.

The Clans don't really need scouts to begin with (their heavier mechs are fast and they engage in ritualized combat, not geurilla skirmishes) so their lights aren't scouts and harassers.

Let me tell you about the time I snuck 3 Dire Wolves within 200m of the enemy line before we were spotted with my ERPPC/cSRM8 Kit Fox...

[DasSibby]

Dang. What an ugly mech. Looks like a cardboard box.

Still. Ugly mechs can be beautiful in their own ways! Now just to see how it plays....

[DAYLEET]

Tarogato, on 01 November 2014 - 06:36 PM, said:

Devs, hope you're reading this thread.

I agree with just about everyone else, it just looks a bit 'off'. It's a similar issue to the MDD, but the MDD doesn't need anything rescaled to be fix'd, it just needs a sharper angle in the knees. But the Ferret is just plain weird looking. I can't quite place it, so I made a comparison to see if I could find it, but I do think it's either the distance between the legs or that the side torsos lack that diagonal outline.


BT score card .............. MWO model ............ BT TRO ............. MWO icon .......... BT figurine ...... MWO model (again)



Here's the ingame icons I found, btw.

When you remove the terrible invasion camo colors it's nowhere near as ugly, it's actually nice.

[Deathlike]

DONTOR, on 03 November 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

^^^ Unfortunately it really gets to me that people cant use their imaginatons / be patient enough to test something before they make rediculous claims as too its effectiveness.

Well... there was this mech called the Vindicator... they disappeared soon after their debut.

It is a Liaosy mech, after all...

[Kalimaster]

Thanks for the heads up.

[Revis Volek]

its a fat bottom girl....i like it.


Can't wait to take mine for a spin!

Thanks McGral! You are always so insightful!

[Mcgral18]

DarthRevis, on 03 November 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:

its a fat bottom girl....i like it.


Can't wait to take mine for a spin!

Thanks McGral! You are always so insightful!

Thank the Former Squirrel; I just shared his images from Reddit...without asking...

Hope he doesn't mind. Links to the source are at the bottom of my OP.

[Alex Warden Wolf]

Shar Wolf, on 31 October 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:

That is one UGLY mech

that´s exactly the words i was looking for... ugly ugly ugly, so GODDAM ugly... let´s hope it performs better than it looks... :/

[Golden Vulf]

You'll need to max that armor since you're going to be a huge target with those legs.

Maybe they'll give it a leg structure quirk like the Cicada.

What it really needs is to replace those lunch boxes it is carrying with smaller weapons.

Edited by Golden Vulf, 03 November 2014 - 07:12 PM.

[CocoaJin]

Ahhh, so this what you get when convert a dump truck into a mech.



Repurposing at it's best.

Edited by CocoaJin, 03 November 2014 - 07:39 PM.

[Arkmaus]

This is why I don't pre-order mechs that don't have actual screenshots.


Sorry, the lower body just looks......bad. Saves me some money though!

Edited by Arkmaus, 03 November 2014 - 11:00 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 31 October 2014 - 08:44 PM, said:

A Mr Secret Squirrel has gotten us some screenshots of the upcoming Fenris.

I'm not too sure...it's good that it's thin, and doesn't have the Nova issue, but it seems tall.





But wait....this makes it look reasonable...









The closest comparison in terms of gameplay roles: The Cicada






http://imgur.com/a/xX7Tx

http://imgur.com/a/Td2PU

http://imgur.com/a/ulD5Z

http://www.reddit.co..._a_screenshots/


I suppose we'll see with the hitboxes, and additional omnipods...if any exist.

a little worried about them hips. them Legs look very vulnerable. And the either the STs will be massive, or the CT easy to hit from the side.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 04 November 2014 - 06:37 AM.

[Carrioncrows]

I just wish they would of done the front right.

Carried the hood all the way around.

[FupDup]

I wonder what's under that cod piece anyways...

[Bishop Steiner]

wish they would quit with the Thigh Gap. These ain't Victoria's Secret Models...they're manly man war machines. So many models would be improved with the simple expedient of a narrower crotch.



Also if they had done something like this, the STs would gains a modicum more survivability.

[Carrioncrows]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 November 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:

wish they would quit with the Thigh Gap. These ain't Victoria's Secret Models...they're manly man war machines. So many models would be improved with the simple expedient of a narrower crotch.



Also if they had done something like this, the STs would gains a modicum more survivability.

This would of been perfect

[lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol]

Mcgral18, on 31 October 2014 - 08:44 PM, said:

A Mr Secret Squirrel has gotten us some screenshots of the upcoming Fenris.

The Ice Ferret Prime (I) model looks like it has an old man's comb over? The wires/antenna that are hooked to the cockpit area and the top of the RT... I just... I can't unsee it.

[SgtMagor]

so today will get to play with the medium that thinks its a light.