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[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

Feel dirty now using it. Before i enjoyed beeing one of the few who was doing great in the so called" **** mech".

I really love it, i was doing allways good with it but now its just OP (1N and 5N)

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 06 November 2014 - 12:02 AM.

[CycKath]

Hmm, was considering Quickdraw Mastery Bundle over the Dragon one, reconsider?

[meteorol]

"The dragon was good before"

Thx, made my day.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

CycKath, on 05 November 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

Hmm, was considering Quickdraw Mastery Bundle over the Dragon one, reconsider?

Quicky´s got alot quirks but mainly 10 ish %..

I would pick any time The dragons. Who knows they might nerf the quirks on the dragon

meteorol, on 05 November 2014 - 11:40 PM, said:

"The dragon was good before"

Thx, made my day.

HIhi

yes to a skilled pilot it was allways

As a side not: I said i was doing good with it

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 05 November 2014 - 11:45 PM.

[luxebo]

Tip: No pun intended but you can hit the tip, or the side torsos of every Dragon. They've got nothing on anything big anyway, and smaller things can wreck it by running circles.

[ICEFANG13]

Let me help you with your thread title,

"I know the Dragon mech needed some help, but I think the quirks were a little too much"

There you go!

[meteorol]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 05 November 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

HIhi

yes to a skilled pilot it was allways

Skilled pilots just compensated its shortcomings with their skill. This didn't change the fact that other mechs were flat out better.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

meteorol, on 05 November 2014 - 11:46 PM, said:

Skilled pilots just compensated its shortcomings with their skill. This didn't change the fact that other mechs were flat out better.

perhaps some mechs in the heavy class were better but it doesnt mean that the dragon was bad before the new quirks

[Sparks Murphey]

CycKath, on 05 November 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

Hmm, was considering Quickdraw Mastery Bundle over the Dragon one, reconsider?

I don't have a Dragon myself, but the Quickdraw has been a lot of fun since the quirks. My -4G (y'know, the useless Quickdraw) is currently sitting at 8 kills to 0 deaths after 4 games. It's not unbeatable, but it's no longer an instant death if I encounter anything bigger... I mean, heavier than it is.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

Sparks Murphey, on 05 November 2014 - 11:49 PM, said:

I don't have a Dragon myself, but the Quickdraw has been a lot of fun since the quirks. My -4G (y'know, the useless Quickdraw) is currently sitting at 8 kills to 0 deaths after 4 games. It's not unbeatable, but it's no longer an instant death if I encounter anything bigger... I mean, heavier than it is.

Nah quickdraws were fine and are fine but the Dragon quirks are just insane. 50% on ac5 without weapon Module is outta control

[El Bandito]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 05 November 2014 - 11:48 PM, said:

perhaps some mechs in the heavy class were better but it doesnt mean that the dragon was bad before the new quirks

It was bad. No ifs, ands, or buts.

In fact, there was a thread about "the worst mech overall" and most people agreed that it was the Dragon chassis, with the exception of Flame.

Edited by El Bandito, 06 November 2014 - 12:56 AM.

[Krivvan]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 06 November 2014 - 12:48 AM, said:

Nah quickdraws were fine and are fine but the Dragon quirks are just insane. 50% on ac5 without weapon Module is outta control

The Dragon-1N still isn't great. What everyone is forgetting is that you still need constant face time with an enemy to actually do any damage. The Dragon isn't exactly a mech cut out for constant face time. Going back to cover or turning away means drastically reducing your DPS compared to a mech that can unload a ton of burst damage and back out.

As of now it's ok as opposed to hilariously awful.

EDIT: And my personal perspective as a Light is that it's pretty much the same as before, except they're trying so much harder to hit you giving you a better view of their ST/CT.

Edited by Krivvan, 06 November 2014 - 01:03 AM.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

El Bandito, on 06 November 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

It was bad. No ifs, ands, or buts.

In fact, there was a thread about "the worst mech overall" and most people agreed that it was the Dragon chassis, with the exception of Flame.

coolol. Thx that you accept other opinions and experiences

[Krivvan]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 06 November 2014 - 01:03 AM, said:

coolol. Thx that you accept other opinions and experiences

Not all opinions and experiences are of equal value. If the majority of decent players (and even many not so decent players) agree that the Dragon wasn't great, what are the chances that you are some magician that made them a good mech versus you deluding yourself?

[mike29tw]

Do us a little favor. Abuse your OP dragon some more and raise your ELO, and maybe then you can show us how OP it is.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

Krivvan, on 06 November 2014 - 01:08 AM, said:

Not all opinions and experiences are of equal value. If the majority of decent players (and even many not so decent players) agree that the Dragon wasn't great, what are the chances that you are some magician that made them a good mech versus you deluding yourself?

Love you guys. by time play the dragon 1n with twin ac5 and at least like 8 tons ammo

[Ghogiel]

Am I about to see a mad rush to use DRGs in comp games, I don't think I have ever seen a DRG in a comp game... ?

[Mordin Ashe]

The Dragon wasn't good before. I made it work for me in specific situations, but good? See, you can do well in every Mech if the enemy team is doing poor decisions but that only means exactly that the enemy isn't at their sharpest, not that the Mech is any good.

The new quirks may need a tiny bit of nerfing but overall I am happy with what they did with the Dragon. Now it is not only visualy appealing Mech but also a dangerous flanker, as it should be.

[Krivvan]

Ghogiel, on 06 November 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

Am I about to see a mad rush to use DRGs in comp games, I don't think I have ever seen a DRG in a comp game... ?

I guess it could run ERLL...

[Mordin Ashe]

Krivvan, on 06 November 2014 - 01:24 AM, said:

I guess it could run ERLL...

It could but Rvn-3l is better for that one, ECM, speed and stuff.