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[Lyoto Machida]

I never felt that way...even when I was down on PGI over the last year (or more). They seem to be getting their act together, so it's kinda strange that you'd make this post now but whatever...

[eblackthorn]

OP... you have been playing this game for 2 years now. I can't be that bad right?

[DONTOR]

Founder here happy as ever. Not to mention I have bought every pack since the beginning and havent felt that I have made a single bad investment yet.
The reason people dont play their founder mechs often is becasue there are new mechs coming out every month and people would rather play something new and interesting.

[Moonlander]

I haven't played long and I've spent quite a bit of money in the small time I've been playin' (every pack available since I started playing in September and a handful of Mastery packs, which probably amounts to 60,000 MC w/ camos and at least a dozen different cockpit items as well) and while I may not have gone through the trials and tribulations a lot of the "founders" have gone through, I don't feel like I was ripped off in the least.

Why? Because I didn't buy any of those packs, Clan or otherwise, with the idea that they were OP. I bought those packs because I wanted every mech possible and I finally had a good enough computer to be able to play this game with visually enjoyable settings (I always followed the game, just never played) and because of my love for BT and playing TT over the years.

Edited by Moonlander, 06 November 2014 - 10:27 PM.

[Quietruck]

Okay guys, So from what I am seeing from your responses so far is most of you missed my point, and heard only what you wanted and or were ready to hear. Yes at the time Founders was released was a good deal. But we had nothing to compare it with. But compare it with other packs now. Execution is simply another way of saying, what you ended up with. In the long run, most of the founders I know now, have no real or consistent use for we ended up with. Four mechs with no variants. Try that now. No one would buy it now. Also one Mech alone can never return balance to the battlefield. Yes aa a starting place for the game the mechs we received were relevant. But honestly how many times to you see founders mech out on the field now, especially compared with the others builds. In competitive play, have you ever seen a founders mechs as a meta build?
Free stuff, as an appreciation gift. Funny that the gifts are better then what they are appreciating us for. Yet I am still glad they did it. Maybe they could throw in 2 good variants with each founders mechs. That I would appreciate more.
Really all I was trying to say was, don't be hasty and be patient with prepay online content, whether full games or free to play. Wait and see how it plays out for those who don't wait. Then you can make a wiser decision. Hind site is 20/20.

http://youtu.be/mf5Uj4XIT1Y

[El Bandito]

I will never pre-order games again. Not because of MWO though, but because of Rome 2: Total War.

[Kiiyor]

Your opinion and mine differ completely, Mr OP. I still see a plethora of founders playing, and since the IS perks, I've rarely had more fun playing the game.

Bring on CW! Bring on the Crab! CORERULE IGNORE! Banana for scale! That is all.

[Nathan Foxbane]

Ah, one of these threads again, been a while. Especially since once they did the game credits, all obligations were fulfilled.

I am satisfied with what I got. No buyer's remorse here.

My Founder's 'Mechs get out once in a while. I just have too many others to master and I really have little need to grind for c-bills so they collect some dust. Nature of having some many 'Mechs. CPLT-C1(F) is still my go to heavy and I doubt that will change even though I have Timber Wolves.

[WarHippy]

Quietruck, on 06 November 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Okay guys, So from what I am seeing from your responses so far is most of you missed my point, and heard only what you wanted and or were ready to hear. Yes at the time Founders was released was a good deal. But we had nothing to compare it with. But compare it with other packs now. Execution is simply another way of saying, what you ended up with. In the long run, most of the founders I know now, have no real or consistent use for we ended up with. Four mechs with no variants. Try that now. No one would buy it now. Also one Mech alone can never return balance to the battlefield. Yes aa a starting place for the game the mechs we received were relevant. But honestly how many times to you see founders mech out on the field now, especially compared with the others builds. In competitive play, have you ever seen a founders mechs as a meta build?
Free stuff, as an appreciation gift. Funny that the gifts are better then what they are appreciating us for. Yet I am still glad they did it. Maybe they could throw in 2 good variants with each founders mechs. That I would appreciate more.
Really all I was trying to say was, don't be hasty and be patient with prepay online content, whether full games or free to play. Wait and see how it plays out for those who don't wait. Then you can make a wiser decision. Hind site is 20/20.

http://youtu.be/mf5Uj4XIT1Y

If you are so worried about meta builds and mechs use the 12,000 MC that came with our pack and buy whatever you want. No other pack ever came with that. You are really stretching to find something to complain about. If you regret your purchase or feel it was some sort of lesson learned then fine that is your prerogative, but most would not agree.

[Scratx]

OP, you forget that your Legendary Founder pack came with 20000 MC.

Do you see any MC in the mech packs being sold or ever sold after Founder's?

IIRC, it was what, 80 bucks in MC? If that means the premium time, 4 hero mechs (in a time where there were none others! ) and early access aren't worth the remaining 40 bucks (and odds are I might've forgotten something)... if you feel they aren't, well then, complain away.

But we got exactly what we were sold with the Founder packs. The fact the game didn't pan out according to the plan we were told is besides the point.

And Loyalty Point related issues with the Phoenix's aside, every mech pack we've gotten exactly what we were told we would be getting.

PGI isn't cheating us, they have delivered in the past and are delivering. *points at Ice Ferret*


Of course, if you want to vote with your wallet, Russ himself said to do it. Hold it shut for however long you want, even forever if you want.

Really, the only good point you have is that what we think we are getting might not correspond to reality, but that's mainly an issue with the mechs... we simply won't know until we have them in our hands how good they are. But, really, how is that different from anything else?

Meh.

[Col Jaime Wolf]

pheonix was nice i guess the only mechs i really like out of all the bunch are the griffen and battlemaster.

[Appogee]

I'm not a founder, but I think it's appalling that PGI didn't give the founder Mechs the full 30% CBill acceleration until recently, or address the longstanding cosmetic/camo issues with the founder variants.

Founders got this game into production. They deserve thanks and appreciation beyond "what they paid for"... especially from the Devs whose livelihoods they funded for the first year until the Alpha got out the door.

If I ran PGI I'd have given the founders small discounts on the subsequent Mech packs too. Out of sheer gratitude and commercial interest in retaining my best customers.






PGI made great strides forward in these areas with the anniversary reward program. Perhaps IGP had been holding them back, or perhaps the Transverse funding debacle finally gave them a much-needed reality check on just how badly they had pissed off their highest paying customers.

Either way, PGI is on the right track now and I give them credit for that.

Edited by Appogee, 07 November 2014 - 12:15 AM.

[CocoaJin]

Quietruck, on 06 November 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

This post is directed towards those of us who purchased the Founders Pack. We are the few who were willing to make the first investment into MWO as players. We are also the ones that where by far the most ripped off any of and in this community who have shelled out cash this game. To say that what we received was below par is an understatement. especially compared to any of the other Mech Packs presently available.
Pre -ordering any games,upgrades or DLC's of any kind is this present atmosphere of gaming industry is unwise and foolish. But the self promoted hype and carrot waving of most game devs is sometimes very hard to resist. And the result for us was we ending up with nothing but hype.
Had PGI really attempted to put their best foot forward when MWO was first made publicly available. then the Founders contain might still be viable and in use on the battlefield today.
I know it sound like i'm just crying over 2 year old spilled milk. And your right I am. But that point I am trying to communicate is "Buyers Beware". Be patient. Wait and see if we is being presented to you is real, or just hype.

They were Founders Mechs, not God Mechs. No pre-order anything, for any game has ever had any staying power past the first year or first few levels. You got what you paid for...but neglected to recognize that the game is based on a progressive/escalating evolution of tech/power...they were destined to be knocked down a peg. The one thing that you still have is unique skins and fancy geometry, no one can take that away from you.

Edited by CocoaJin, 07 November 2014 - 12:47 AM.

[Peter2k]

meh

I still love to blow up other mechs

only thing, sometimes you need a break too
just played the new CoD and the new Borderlands

and then came back crushing some more mechs

bought into every package, still not regretting anything

[Mad Strike]

Quietruck, on 06 November 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

This post is directed towards those of us who purchased the Founders Pack. We are the few who were willing to make the first investment into MWO as players. We are also the ones that where by far the most ripped off any of and in this community who have shelled out cash this game. To say that what we received was below par is an understatement. especially compared to any of the other Mech Packs presently available.
Pre -ordering any games,upgrades or DLC's of any kind is this present atmosphere of gaming industry is unwise and foolish. But the self promoted hype and carrot waving of most game devs is sometimes very hard to resist. And the result for us was we ending up with nothing but hype.
Had PGI really attempted to put their best foot forward when MWO was first made publicly available. then the Founders contain might still be viable and in use on the battlefield today.
I know it sound like i'm just crying over 2 year old spilled milk. And your right I am. But that point I am trying to communicate is "Buyers Beware". Be patient. Wait and see if we is being presented to you is real, or just hype.

Bought phoenix overlord , phoenix reinforcements and 3 a la carte clan mechs. Now got centurion AH custom , Atlas S custom and incoming King Crab custom for free. Been around since close beta , all i can say is that i have what i paid for EARLY ACCESS and extras.

**: PGI is doing things rigth this half year and MWO has a bright future now , totally looking forward to it.

Edited by strikebrch, 07 November 2014 - 02:20 AM.

[Pale Jackal]

I'm very glad I bought the Elite pack, and at the time I offered to buy two but Customer Service said no.

I think the Legendary Pack was not as good a value - but they even told you as much! PGI didn't say spend $120 and get $240 worth of value, they said spend $120 and get $180 worth of value! Whereas Elite was $60 for $120.

If I had a choice between a Legendary Pack with 4 new hero 'mechs versus the Resistance or Clan Wave 2 packs, I'd totally get the Legendary Pack, because MC is the most flexible and useful commodity.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Quietruck, on 06 November 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

Had PGI really attempted to put their best foot forward when MWO was first made publicly available. then the Founders contain might still be viable and in use on the battlefield today.

I know that for myself the first time they said that the game would be "minimally viable" I started getting nervous

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

I still really enjoy playing my AS7-D(F). It might not be meta, but I can still hold my own against the average pub.

In fact, my most played mech.

Edited by vnlk65n, 07 November 2014 - 02:42 AM.

[PhoenixFire55]

Lied to? Yes.
Ripped off? Maybe.

When I look at it now, closed beta was the best, most fun time for me in this game. It gets worse and worse every patch so I guess I'm happy I purchased founders package and were able to play in CB. Was it worth 120$? Maybe. Maybe not.

As for pre-ordering, it works same way everywhere, it has its risks and if you pre-order you have to understand those risks. I got founders because back at the time I believed in PGI, then they lied to me and I haven't purchsed anything from them ever since. But founders was different, because you got early access not only to mechs, but to the game itself, which none of the newer packages provide. It just turned out I pre-ordered one thing and eventually got a completely different thing. Doesn't apply to other packages, you get what they say you get, early access to new mechs, thats about it. When you buy a new mech with MCs or c-bills you still have to understand that it can be amazing when you buy it and complete crap one month later, just look at all the Heavy Metals. Do they do this on purpose? Maybe. Maybe not. But risks are there and you gotta know em.

[PurpleNinja]

To all the founders, thank you. You made the game possible. I didn't had the money to spare at that time (priorities), but I don't think it was that bad investiment. I'm having a lot of fun since the open beta, and I have no problem buying MC and packages right now (where did I parked my King Crab). PGI is doing a lot better job since IGP departure and the game is improving. No regrets on all the money I've spent so far.

Battlefield 4 frustrated me a lot more, and I've spent just 99 Dollars, that's a real ripoff for just repacking Battlefield 3 with bad maps.