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#61 Sable

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 08:46 AM

beware of what? we got exactly what we paid for, 4 mechs, a bunch of premium time, a bunch of MC and early access to a game still in development. It was pretty straight forward. If you somehow think being first in line at the drinking fountain makes you more important that's your issue man. I personally didn't go for the legendary pack because i didn't think the extra "leet status" was worth the cost. But i'm happy with what i paid for and i'm happy being able to see MWO evolve of the course of closed beta, open beta, forced release by IGP all the way to where we are now. It's forming up to be a good game that gets the rough points worked out more and more with each patch.

#62 Abisha

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 08:50 AM

kind of irony, the founder feels like being ripped off, while i like to buy the only thing that's not available...

#63 Eddrick

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 08:54 AM

I would have gotten the Veteran Founder's Pack if I knew it existed at the time. I didn't find out about the game till shortly after Open Beta started. Founder's Catapult and Early Access would have been enough for me. I don't like the other chassis of the Founder's Mechs.

I am quite happy with the Pre-Orders I have made in this and other games. You buy a Pre-Order for what it is at the time.

Out of all Pre-Orders I have ever made, I like the one for TERA Online the most. It was literally, a Founder's Pack. It gave Closed Beta Access, Early Access on Launch, tangible Collecters Items, and ingame items (Some unique ingame items only available to the people that Pre-Ordered, too). When the game went from Pay2Play to Free2Play, they game some benifits to the people that Pre-Ordered. In the form of a "Founder's Account". Which, is a medium between the Premium Account and Free Account.

#64 Abisha

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 08:59 AM

View PostEddrick, on 07 November 2014 - 08:54 AM, said:

I would have gotten the Veteran Founder's Pack if I knew it existed at the time. I didn't find out about the game till shortly after Open Beta started. Founder's Catapult and Early Access would have been enough for me. I don't like the other chassis of the Founder's Mechs.

I am quite happy with the Pre-Orders I have made in this and other games. You buy a Pre-Order for what it is at the time.

Out of all Pre-Orders I have ever made, I like the one for TERA Online the most. It was literally, a Founder's Pack. It gave Closed Beta Access, Early Access on Launch, tangible Collecters Items, and ingame items (Some unique ingame items only available to the people that Pre-Ordered, too). When the game went from Pay2Play to Free2Play, they game some benifits to the people that Pre-Ordered. In the form of a "Founder's Account". Which, is a medium between the Premium Account and Free Account.


can give you a hand, only care about the Catapult ether, and will love to have a founder CPLT.

#65 xeromynd

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:01 AM

My primary reason for pre-ordering (The Resistance Pack) was NOT because I liked the mechs, that was secondary. The main reason I pre-ordered content was because I want to see this IP survive, that's the core reason I think most anyone pre-orders purely-digital content in this game, (aside from moneybag players who just want to have the latest and greatest)

I think the problem with all pre-orders in this game is that they're always spun as:
"Hey here's some digital, intangible 3D models that you can buy for real money, don't they look great? The value is great!"

When I truly think it should be spun as:
"Hey, want to keep a legendary IP alive and kicking with a team of people who as are passionate as you are about MechWarrior? Consider picking up a _____________ Pack."

They are marketing intangible mech designs to us, when they should be marketing the life of the IP to us.

Another problem I see is that we are given NO statistics or thank you's when pre-ordering packs/ala-carte mechs. At least give us ONE statistic as to where our money is going. ie. "Hey that Clan Wave I pack you bought helped us create this new game mode!" or something.

I pre-ordered the Resistance pack because I thought it was a sensible price for 13 mechs as compared to the Clan Wave II pack, which was $40 more for the top tier, and the same amount of mechs.

#66 Lightfoot

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:37 AM

View PostDurant Carlyle, on 06 November 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

You can do this if you have one of those joystick and throttle sets. Use one of the buttons on the throttle as the firing button and aim with your joystick.

Or just use keyboard and mouse, which has been the superior control scheme ever since the first MechWarrior game.

Edit: And to actually address the OP -- I've pre-ordered every package there is, and I haven't ever felt ripped off. If I would have had the extra money I would've bought a Gold Khan 'Mech too. This game has been fun since August 2012 when I was randomly invited into the Closed Beta a few days before Founder's day. And it's going to get better.


Please. The Gauss Rifle de-sync is completely Mouse-centric. It's drag and drop like files on your desktop. Made for the mouse and will never fit a Joystick. Meanwhile the best way to pilot a Mech is with a Joystick. Joystick has 4 axii, Mouse has 2, Mech has 4 axii. MechWarrior 2 prompted you to play with joystick (Sidewinder) as did every flight or MechWarrior sim up until 2004.

There is a deeper story here, but suffice to say MechWarrior was designed for the Joystick and will always give the best gameplay experiences with a joystick. The gauss de-sync is only designed for a mouse. Period, the Fat Lady sang and left the stadium a long time ago. Joe said it's so.

Edited by Lightfoot, 07 November 2014 - 09:48 AM.


#67 SpeedingBus

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:46 AM

The praise you people have for PGI is absolutely idiotic... they have literally delivered on less then half the stuff they promised and even tried to make another game behind our backs but no please act like they are great.

#68 Nightmare1

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:47 AM

My pre-ordered Clan Pack was a good value.

QQ harder Griefer.

#69 Pale Jackal

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:57 AM

View PostSpeedingBus, on 07 November 2014 - 09:46 AM, said:

The praise you people have for PGI is absolutely idiotic... they have literally delivered on less then half the stuff they promised and even tried to make another game behind our backs but no please act like they are great.


MW Tactics was a flop but I think that was IGPs doing. Anyway I agree MWO is in a disappointing state. Nevertheless PGI has made some recent improvements and I am willing to spend $60 to $80 every 2 years on a game. Thus I don't mind buying the Wrath pack.

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 10:06 AM

Well I bought my Founders pack primarily so I could get access to Closed beta plus in addition to gobs of premium time, I got a bonus C-bills mech which really helped me start out, plus 20,000 MC which allowed me to buy 3 additional hero mechs. I think I paid $60 for all this so I definitely got my monies worth.

Phoenix Pack was kind of iffy. I despise the Locust so that is a throw away and despite how good most people find the Shadow Hawks, I can't find any builds that work for me so that mech was a throw away as well. Battlemaster has always treated be very good though and with the quirks, the T-bolts are now pretty good as well, plus I got gobs of premium so that one was a wash.

Timber and Crow ala Carte was a wash as well. $55 a piece was too expensive but since I really didn't want to spend $210 at the time and didn't really care for the Summoner and Nova or Adder, I was kind of stuck. Kind of, sort of feel I wasted money here since I didn't get any goodies with my ala carte purchase but I did get early access and I like both mechs so yeah another wash.

Wave 2, jury is still out. Ice Ferret was a pleasant surprise and I am really enjoying mine however I do have concerns about the Mist Lynx which might end up a throw away like my Locust was. Hellbringer is promising but with the changes to BAP, it became alot less promising so it will now be up to hitboxes. Still debating on upgrading to the Gargoyle mostly because of the extra 30 days premium and swag it nets me. Getting gobs of premium time and some nice swag though either way. Might end up a wash but doubt I feel like I waste money.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 07 November 2014 - 10:07 AM.


#71 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 10:09 AM

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#72 Project_Mercy

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 10:45 AM

I love my founders pack stuff. Not only did I get 4 mechs, I got a fist full of MC to buy hero mechs and paints and stuff. It was by far the best ROI of all the packs, and they went and gave us free mechs just recently for it.

#73 xeromynd

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 10:50 AM

View PostPale Jackal, on 07 November 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

MW Tactics was a flop but I think that was IGPs doing. Anyway I agree MWO is in a disappointing state. Nevertheless PGI has made some recent improvements and I am willing to spend $60 to $80 every 2 years on a game. Thus I don't mind buying the Wrath pack.


I think he's referring to Transverse

#74 michaelius

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 10:54 AM

Well at least we aren't playing ecm warrior online like a year ago.

#75 CimaGarahau

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:05 AM

Guys you really need to have patience with PGI and their development with Mechwarrior Online. You already know from other projects that they often need longer than usual ;) !

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:24 AM

I have no complaints about the Founders package although I never use the mechs.

I do not like the Gauss Rifle nerf because it ruined the Phoenix mechs, for me. I saw those mechs and thought they had few Ballistic options, which is the ever-present meta in MWO, but with a Gauss Rifle they would compete okay, so I got it and 2 or 3 weeks before the release the Gauss Rifle was made into a mouse-only weapon with the drag-and-drop mechanic used for the de-sync. Go try to drag-and-drop files on your desktop with a joystick and then with a mouse in one second. Right, so it is Mouse-only in a traditional Joystick game.

So before the Gauss Rifle nerf I was buying most mechs and had 51. After, just the first Clan pack and about 4 others that do not require ballistics or can carry the multi-AC meta. The Gauss Rifle nerf is crushing to mechs that have small ballistic abilities... like all but one of the Phoenix mechs.

#77 Belorion

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:27 AM

View PostEclair Farron, on 07 November 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

Guys you really need to have patience with PGI and their development with Mechwarrior Online. You already know from other projects that they often need longer than usual ;) !


Not sure what this means... what is your base of comparison?

#78 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:36 AM

This thread needs locked. It's nothing but an illegitimate whine.

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#79 Spokes

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:57 AM

I purchased a Founder's pack as a way of helping PGI make a game with BattleMechs. Which is exactly what they did.

I don't feel the slightest bit ripped off.

#80 terrycloth

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:58 AM

Wait, what? You can't hold down a button while aiming with a joystick? All the games I played with a joystick required you to hold down buttons while aiming. 100% of them.





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