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[Innocent]

Please make some changes to the way challenges work.

1. Kills and assists should be worth the same amount. A player should not be punished for finishing off a badly damaged opponent.

2. Wins should not be factored into the equation. As it is the teams the matchmaker give you have too much influence already. Don't punish a player having a great game just because the rest of his team is bad.

3. Change the scoring from the top 10 matches to the average of all matches played with a minimum number of matches to quality, say 25 matches minimum.

This would take the advantage away from the people who get to play 10 hours a day, minimize the negative effects of the matchmaker giving you worthless teams, and stop punishing players for trying to win by killing the enemy.

[michaelius]

That's a nice direction for events. Even if you can't play it for top places you can still get 100k cbills for ach good match so noone is excluded.

[PhoenixNMGLB]

michaelius, on 15 November 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

That's a nice direction for events. Even if you can't play it for top places you can still get 100k cbills for ach good match so noone is excluded.

I agree to an extent - the participation award is a nice touch but the emphasis on assists is causing most people to go on headless chicken runs instead of using good fire discipline to actually kill the opposing team.

[Shipwreck50]

It sucks how can a kill be worth half what an assist is. That just doesn't make any sense at all. All this does is cause frustration and doesn't improve the game play and certainly doesn't attract new players to the game.

Headless chicken run here I come

Edited by Shipwreck50, 15 November 2014 - 09:25 AM.

[RalphVargr]

Gentlebeings:

This is a playtest, not a tournament. They knew they could get almost everyone out to play. This is being held for the data. They can afford to hand out the C-bills, and MC. The reason the formula is the way it is was determined by their data needs, not what players wanted.

And, you get the incomparable Hula girl. How many MC does she cost in the store?

[Astrocanis]

Sigh. I am not the best player in the game. My elo prior to this in my KTO was 1.59. If you have to have tournaments like this, would it be possible to do it at times when the window lickers are less prevalent, though?

Weekends are always bad. Weekends with tournaments bring out the subhumans.

[Shipwreck50]

RalphVargr, on 15 November 2014 - 09:39 AM, said:

Gentlebeings:

This is a playtest, not a tournament. They knew they could get almost everyone out to play. This is being held for the data. They can afford to hand out the C-bills, and MC. The reason the formula is the way it is was determined by their data needs, not what players wanted.

And, you get the incomparable Hula girl. How many MC does she cost in the store?

last thing I want is a Hula girl donate it to charity.

[Vassago Rain]

77 on marik.
I exclusively played a single heatsink firestarter, armed with one AC5 and three tons of ammo. The rest of you purple birds need to step it up a bit.

As for the scoring, it's horrible. I thought we'd get more events like the halloween one. Though it had very small rewards, it had lots of them, and people didn't need to compete with their friends to get them. We were having lots of fun comparing our draws, while this event is a lot of rage from the people who are actually trying to place.

PGI, plz.

[John Archer]

n4sty, on 15 November 2014 - 05:58 AM, said:

Most stupid score formula for a ladder challenge... everything suggested here is better than this.

Don't you guys at PGI think about the incentives from such formula and the consequences for the game given that many/most people do everything to achive high scores???

I honestly think they are very myopic over there at PGI. What they fail to realize is the sheer amount of people that will simply just take a break, or even quit and go play another game...one that gives more rewards or a seemingly better chance at 'winning'. It is why many of us play.. to either win or feel like you have accomplished something.

I just ground out 10 hours straight of gaming. I achieved exactly 10 successful matches out of 46 matches that the game has counted thus far. The only games I scored 130 or above in were wins. That means my team lost 3/4 of the time.

That can be downright depressing for any player.

My point is.. PGI needs to quit 'gathering data' and start finding ways to keep it's less elite (i.e. the average player like myself) happy. Else they are just shooting their own game in the foot...

[Jeffrey Wilder]

Jason Parker, on 15 November 2014 - 05:50 AM, said:

Yeah but it takes 100 valid matches to get that.

You mean 100 WINS out of that 500 drops?

[John Archer]

Hmmm after this long grind.. I ranked 228 for Clan Wolf.

So does that mean I am a good, bad, average player? Anyway.. tired of being on teams that pretty much get wiped. Off to unwind playing Minion Rush!

Edited by John Archer, 15 November 2014 - 10:55 AM.

[Jeffrey Wilder]

John Archer, on 15 November 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

I just ground out 10 hours straight of gaming. I achieved exactly 10 successful matches out of 46 matches that the game has counted thus far. The only games I scored 130 or above in were wins. That means my team lost 3/4 of the time.

Congratulations! You have just won yourself 1M cbills!!!!!

10 hours................................

[John Archer]

Jeffrey Wilder, on 15 November 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

Congratulations! You have just won yourself 1M cbills!!!!!

10 hours................................

Yep....and during all that play time, I earned about 1 million...which is actually quite horrible. 10 hours of STRAIGHT playing and not even close enough earned to buy a crappy IS light mech!

Sad face...

[warner2]

486498278543171026 SCR-PRIME 2 625 8 6 0 2014-11-15 18:44:19

This did not qualify and the zero point suggested it was a loss but it was not a loss. It was a win on HPG. I think the scoring is buggy.

[RalphVargr]

John Archer, on 15 November 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

Yep....and during all that play time, I earned about 1 million...which is actually quite horrible. 10 hours of STRAIGHT playing and not even close enough earned to buy a crappy IS light mech!

Sad face...

Archer, welcome to the back of the VFW bar, clustered with us loser Chair Force tactical drivers.

Ralph, 429th TFS.

[HlynkaCG]

Are any other Founders, Phoenix, or Invasion owners having an issue where their respective mechs aren't counting for the challenge?

I did a few drops in my TDR-9SE, switched to my TDR-5S (P) for a few matches, then switched back. The matches I played in my Phoenix-bolt aren't showing up on the challenge screen. but the matches I played in the TDR-9SE both before and after are.

[PhoenixNMGLB]

warner2, on 15 November 2014 - 11:07 AM, said:

486498278543171026 SCR-PRIME 2 625 8 6 0 2014-11-15 18:44:19

This did not qualify and the zero point suggested it was a loss but it was not a loss. It was a win on HPG. I think the scoring is buggy.

Aren't you merc Corp? In which case it is a zero score because you were running a clan mech.....

[Zolaz]

Shipwreck50, on 15 November 2014 - 09:52 AM, said:

last thing I want is a Hula girl donate it to charity.

Every Clamer needs a Hula girl to put next to their hologram statue of Kerensky.

[warner2]

PhoenixNMGLB, on 15 November 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Aren't you merc Corp? In which case it is a zero score because you were running a clan mech.....

Er...yeah.

Now I feel stupid. I forgot the rules.

[Ragnahawk]

This event is a little off to me because in order for me to score high i have to actually try to not kill them. It's really difficult.