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[Gas Guzzler]

Yeah, honestly this is really frustrating to me because in order to win you have to try to NOT kill things. I think the next tournament should employ the solo kill and most damage to kill stats to add to your points. You should not have to steer away from kills to win the tournament.

[Ertur]

I just wanted to voice my appreciation for being able to see all of the match results. That's a good move, thank you.

[Duncan1dah0]

I agree. Seeing the results and standings is awesome and much appreciated.

[xti]

purposefully playing bad to get good results in the tournament was fun for the total of 1 match. then it got really annoying. i think i'm going to pass

Edited by xti, 15 November 2014 - 01:33 PM.

[Ertur]

I don't get the complaints about the scoring. It's been this way for a long time. Counting kills for less has long been applauded because it doesn't reward kill-stealing.

Personally, I take any kill I can get. I'll get plenty of assists, anyhow.
There's nothing wrong with the scoring.

[Kresko]

First off, I play as a lone wolf always.

Has anyone else had problems with their cataphracts not registering as an aligned IS mech?

I played my 4x last night and if I remember correctly I got 2 kills, 5 assists and a little over 700 dmg. I also seem to remembering that we won that match on forest colony.

Thing is that it never listed the match at all. I don't meant that it didn't qualify. I mean it didn't even show up on my list at all.

I'm not in it for the faction ranking, but for the extra c-bills and hula girl(which I have played enough matches to qualify for) and it kinda bums me out that a match that should have earned the bonus c-bills isn't even being listed/counted.

So I guess I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem with any of their cataphracts.

Edited by Faison1970, 15 November 2014 - 01:46 PM.

[Hawk819]

IMHO they should have allowed us to win at least 50K for the win. If we didn't make a 130 points. That's just my opinion.

[bluepiglet]

The current challenge has brought the worst out of MWO, LRM spam, group camp, suicide lights, arty/airstrike spam, you name it.

OK, not every worst, at least kill stealing is off for the weekend.....

[Docta Pain]

1) Thank you for showing the game stats. Please allow for a permanent method to export game logs to excel with all data displayed on the end of round team & player screens.

2) The scoring formula is WRONG. It is A LIE. It is FALSE. The stated formula for the tournament includes (Wins * 20) however, checking against the stats, my scores should be exactly 20 points higher on all of my wins.

3) Emphasis on point #2.

[Estonniel]

Meh to many people complain over and over. just playing daily 4 hours or so and chill out the rest is enough. ending day 2 with 2800+.
thing is if kills reward more then assist. people Team kill you just to get the kills. people cry and complain.
now assists are more worth then kills so people no longer LOL Kill steal your hard work. people seem to complain again.
basically to make people happy would be assists 20 points + 5 extra if you did the most damage to that target.
And if it was a solo kill add 5 more for a 20 (assist) + 5 (most dmg) + 5 (killing the target alone) + your damage overall + win.

Anyways since most people seem to have a bad time. i can say ive had 1 of the best games since months. running a small 4 man Lightswarm ER LL group. my team gets rolled down in 3 min and leaves just 4 lights alone to deal with everything els. 1 kill for my team vs 8 of the enemy. and when the timer runs out. playing all Supersayian mode ending it up in a TIE 11 vs 11 with both a treb vs a Raven 3L 1 Alpha strike away from sudden death in the end. near a 1200 dmg game. to me BEST GAME SINCE MONTHS. eventho not a win.

what people just need to do is have a group. deside a theme to run and go for it. or try to do it alone. its not very hard. and if your lucky. you still get epic matches in if you have like minded friends or people to play with.

http://21stgl.org/fo...ttach=932;image

Edited by Estonniel, 15 November 2014 - 03:04 PM.

[Candun]

i think the scoring is off somehow on this tourny i had 1 round with 2 kills 3 assist and 676 dmg and got 125 score?

[Caboosegg]

i like the idea of these events but

1. they are always weekends, people with families dont get much free weekend time.
any chance of a week long one?

2. it seems to turn the game into LRM central which is boring

[Saobh]

Honestly I've been seeing less LRMing then usual, most of my matches have been straight out brawls (with one where everyone spread out like headless chickens ... but so did the other team ---> spread out brawl ^^ )

There has seriously been a lot less angst ( in fact none apart from one TKer on opposite team in a DWF ...) making for a fun week end play.

[mad kat]

Bit miffed. My desktop has just packed up mid tourny. Something to do with the graphics card or display adaptor. Monitor keeps going to auto detect the desktop flickers on breifly with lots of dead pixels then the computer reboots. Its stopped givinv me BSOD after i tried system restore to no avail.

Now having to use my crap laptop to finish the tourney.

[Ballimbo]

Docta Pain, on 15 November 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

2) The scoring formula is WRONG. It is A LIE. It is FALSE. The stated formula for the tournament includes (Wins * 20) however, checking against the stats, my scores should be exactly 20 points higher on all of my wins.

In the section "Special C-Bills reward" of the challange page, it states, that the scores will be displayed (and only in that section) and the formula given in that section is without the + (Wins * 20).
Anyway, in the upper "Tournament Section" it is also stated, that only "matches that are victories" will be counted. So they might have realised that the + (Wins * 20) doesn't have any effect whatsoever because everyone would get that on every counted match. So maybe the took it out (as stated in the c-bill reward section) because it is pointless.

[Gas Guzzler]

Ertur, on 15 November 2014 - 01:37 PM, said:

I don't get the complaints about the scoring. It's been this way for a long time. Counting kills for less has long been applauded because it doesn't reward kill-stealing.

Personally, I take any kill I can get. I'll get plenty of assists, anyhow.
There's nothing wrong with the scoring.

Kill-stealing? The point of the game is to eliminate mechs ASAP. Anyone who whines about kill-stealing is petty and silly and needs to grow up.

I'am watching people purposely farm damage and avoid kill shots for the sake of the tourney, that is WRONG. You might personally take any kill you can get, but as you are not in the top 15 of your faction, doesn't seem to be working out so great for you.

I think kills and assists should be worth the same (10), and if you did the most damage to the target then you get a significant bonus. Therefore, "kill-stealing" is no longer encouraged, but playing well is.

[Prussian Havoc]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 November 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

...I think kills and assists should be worth the same (10), and if you did the most damage to the target then you get a significant bonus. Therefore, "kill-stealing" is no longer encouraged, but playing well is.

Excellent idea.

"Most Damage" should be worth at least 20, if not 25 points.. after all, only one gamer will get this award for each Kill, it should be a significant reward.

[ShinVector]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 November 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

Kill-stealing? The point of the game is to eliminate mechs ASAP. Anyone who whines about kill-stealing is petty and silly and needs to grow up.

I'am watching people purposely farm damage and avoid kill shots for the sake of the tourney, that is WRONG. You might personally take any kill you can get, but as you are not in the top 15 of your faction, doesn't seem to be working out so great for you.

I think kills and assists should be worth the same (10), and if you did the most damage to the target then you get a significant bonus. Therefore, "kill-stealing" is no longer encouraged, but playing well is.

Yeah... I a way now I glad I have too much RL work to do this week so, I don't have time to waste on this event. I am happy with my Hula girl.
Don't really know what is the point of the scoring of this tournament. (Let those lucky 1K damage/High assist LRM boating buggers have their day ? )

Also bring an issue with solo... If you are 'not allowed to kill' to get a good score. How are you expected to carry a match, if MM decides that you are one of the higher Elo few in the team to carry a match ? We are suppose to kill as many mech as possible in the shortest amount of time, to swing victory in our favour... Letting an enemy live... Uhhhh...... Hmmm..

But hey... We finally.. FINALLY !! Almost get full match stats... That's nice.

Edited by ShinVector, 15 November 2014 - 08:29 PM.

[Dahhak]

I really don't get the point system, if i did 2 kills, 8 assists and 1k dmg i don't get any points?

[Gyr Falcon]

Has anyone else noticed that the stats stopped updating after a bit? using all my IS mechs and the last few matches haven't come up...more than 15 min delay, more like an hour or two.