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[UnseenFury]

Tried it. Best mech in the game. Was not cool to lock it behind pay wall for 4 months.

[Cimarb]

Paran01ac, on 14 November 2014 - 01:40 AM, said:

Tried it. Best mech in the game. Was not cool to lock it behind pay wall for 4 months.

Support the game and that is a non-issue.

[NocturnalBeast]

Paran01ac, on 14 November 2014 - 01:40 AM, said:

Tried it. Best mech in the game. Was not cool to lock it behind pay wall for 4 months.

What?! You mean PGI has to make some money to keep the servers going and pay for continued development of the game? Who would have ever though that this is how a business works?

[Carl Avery]

It is more than possible for the developers of a free-to-play game to make sufficient funds without making the best 'mech/airplane/tank/whatever only available for real money. Other games have refrained from engaging in this pay-to-win element, and MWO was relatively free of it previously. There is no reasonable excuse for hiding the best 'mechs behind a pay-wall or pay-to-window. (And, by the way, it was five months, not four.)

[NocturnalBeast]

Carl Avery, on 14 November 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

It is more than possible for the developers of a free-to-play game to make sufficient funds without making the best 'mech/airplane/tank/whatever only available for real money. Other games have refrained from engaging in this pay-to-win element, and MWO was relatively free of it previously. There is no reasonable excuse for hiding the best 'mechs behind a pay-wall or pay-to-window. (And, by the way, it was five months, not four.)

The only mech that was arguably P2W when it came out was the Yen Lo Wang. Right before the Yen Lo Wang was released, the Centurion AH was removed from the game, leaving the Yen Lo Wang (which is only available for MC) as the only Centurion that could carry and AC/20. Now, years later, I have my AH back, thanks to a PGI that is now free of IGP. Also, I have destroyed many Timber Wolves with IS and Clan mechs alike, so just use one of the Many mechs that are available for Cbills while you wait for the pre-order mechs to be released for Cbills.

Also, please grow up and try to understand that a Free-To-Play game can still be free-to-Play without making every item in the game free (you do not need a Timber Wolf to play MWO).

Edited by Ed Steele, 14 November 2014 - 10:37 AM.

[Jody Von Jedi]

Ed Steele, on 14 November 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

(you do not need a Timber Wolf to play MWO).

Nor do you need one to even be competitive. The HBK is more than enough mech for anyone.

[0bsidion]

Jody Von Jedi, on 14 November 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

Nor do you need one to even be competitive. The HBK is more than enough mech for anyone.

OMG Hunchbacks are OP! Plz nerf! P2W!!! P2W!!!!11!1 Sorry, I couldn't help it.

[Carl Avery]

Jody Von Jedi, on 14 November 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

Nor do you need one to even be competitive.

Two weeks ago, the Timber Wolf was unquestionably the best 'mech in the game, with no contenders, and was only available for real money.

[gerbal7]

Carl Avery, on 14 November 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

unquestionably the best 'mech in the game,

I question it. That makes it questionable.

[NocturnalBeast]

Carl Avery, on 14 November 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Two weeks ago, the Timber Wolf was unquestionably the best 'mech in the game, with no contenders, and was only available for real money.

People were still able to take out Timber Wolves with mechs that they bought with Cbills and more importantly, people still did not need a Timber Wolf to be able to play MWO (for free).

[UnseenFury]

Cimarb, on 14 November 2014 - 07:06 AM, said:

Support the game and that is a non-issue.

Ed Steele, on 14 November 2014 - 10:12 AM, said:

What?! You mean PGI has to make some money to keep the servers going and pay for continued development of the game? Who would have ever though that this is how a business works?

I put $300 dollars into the game when it was fun in closed beta 2 years ago. Since the introduction of Stalker the game went downhill.
Right now it's boring gamemodes on terrible maps, awful hit detection and disgrace to CryEngine and PC gaming as a whole.

I stopped giving them money a year ago and don't want to give any more at this point.

Also, UI2.0 is a complete insult to human intelligence.

Edited by Paran01ac, 14 November 2014 - 03:51 PM.

[NocturnalBeast]

Paran01ac, on 14 November 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

I put $300 dollars into the game when it was fun in closed beta 2 years ago. Since the introduction of Stalker the game went downhill.
Right now it's boring gamemodes on terrible maps, awful hit detection and disgrace to CryEngine and PC gaming as a whole.

I stopped giving them money a year ago and don't want to give any more at this point.

Also, UI2.0 is a complete insult to human intelligence.

That is great, I too have spent quite a bit on MWO, but how is that relevant to whether the Timber Wolf is P2W or not?

[UnseenFury]

Ed Steele, on 14 November 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

That is great, I too have spent quite a bit on MWO, but how is that relevant to whether the Timber Wolf is P2W or not?

Is that how PGI Defense Force works? Spitting nonsense?

In my post I explained why I didn't buy TW, because you have to have principles in what current gaming is.

The game is uninteresting mess, TW was P2W for 4 months. These are facts.

Gotta love american target audience.

[NocturnalBeast]

Paran01ac, on 14 November 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

Is that how PGI Defense Force works? Spitting nonsense?

In my post I explained why I didn't buy TW, because you have to have principles in what current gaming is.

The game is uninteresting mess, TW was P2W for 4 months. These are facts.

Gotta love american target audience.

My reply was quite clear and understandable. And the game being an "uninteresting mess" and the TW being "P2W for 4 months" are opinions, not facts. Do you have concrete data proving that, in the four months the TW was out and not available for Cbills, TW were the reason for every Victory in MWO?

[Cimarb]

Ed, I have to assume both of those guys are simply trolling, as their arguments are horrible.

[Quicks]

I really dont know what the FUSS was all about got the mech, and its really not that great... Maybe when you could disable the jet packs on the one might of helped but prob not that much to make such a huge difference.

[Cimarb]

Quicks, on 20 November 2014 - 10:52 AM, said:

I really dont know what the FUSS was all about got the mech, and its really not that great... Maybe when you could disable the jet packs on the one might of helped but prob not that much to make such a huge difference.

With all early releases that are not horrible, the fuss comes from the people that cannot get one themselves, so they complain about those that can.

[Commander A9]

Worth...every...C-Bill!

My favorite mech!